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Do you think he ever loved me?

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ValerieCupcake · 11/05/2022 01:06

I was very young and very immature and very stupid.

I was 19 almost 20 and working at a building company, and I met this guy, let's call him Steve. He was 29 and he was married. He had been since he was 21. I knew that. I was very messed up for most of my teens and early 20s wrt relationships. He was one of the surveyors and we used to flirt. I was giddy about it and one Friday he asked me out. I went for a drink with him and we snogged in his car. I wrote lots of giddy comments about it in my diary. He had a small son aged about 3 or 4. I was jealous and tried not to think about it.

He was then terrified about being seen. So we used to meet at my house when my parents had gone out. Or when I was babysitting. I slept with Steve and he told me he had fallen in love with me. I was giddy as a kipper. I was jealous of his wife and resentful of him not making a commitment to me. He messed me about for months. Six months later I met someone else my own age. (He is another story) He also messed me about, but Steve didn't like it.

He used to say things to me like I was sweet. He would say "smile for me" if ever I was upset. (upset about him treating me like an option). I was obsessed with songs that reminded me of him and I used to tape the top 40 every Sunday to make me think of him.

That Christmas Steve bought me an expensive jewellery box and some expensive perfume. Whether I was sad or happy depended on what Steve said to me. He walked out on me at the Christmas party. I was so furious I phoned his house and told him to piss off when he answered and slammed it down. On Monday morning he was driving up and down the bottom of my road as I went to work. I was flattered. He must be doing this because he loved me! My diary read like Bridget Jones on acid. I stayed in a lot in the evening just thinking about him.

He asked me to go away with him for a weekend after Christmas. This turned out to be working on a building site 150 miles away and staying in a Travelodge. He left me in the hotel whilst he went to the site and took me to a Harvester for dinner. Then dropped me at home and told me not to tell anyone.

My 21st came around. He told me he had bought me a really good present. It never materialised. He said it was locked in his work filing cabinet. I got someone to break into it and it was empty. Challenged him and he called me a nutcase and a headf**k.

I never felt good enough. I thought if I was good enough then I would have him to myself.

I left the building company. He burst into tears and drove me home on the last day, gave me an expensive fountain pen. He said he loved me.

Six months after that I got married - yes very fast. To yet someone else. Mistake. Steve drove by once when I was at the bus stop. He offered me a lift. He told me I was making a big mistake getting married (he turned out to be right. But that was not what he meant at the time).

He told me that he fell in love very easily. That he was very sensitive and easily hurt. That I had the potential to break his heart. These years later I still wonder what he thought.

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Spidey66 · 11/05/2022 13:46

I kind of know how you feel. Here's my story...

I was 23, he was 40. We were both student mental health nurses at the time. He was ahead of me on the course, so we weren't in the same set. Initially I lived in the nurses home, he was living outside. (BTW this was 1990 and nurse training has changed dramatically since then, now it's a degree done in uni, then it was an apprenticeship type model and you were employed by the hospital that trained you.)

He chatted me up in the School of Nursing and the Hospital Social Club. Prior to him I'd had a few flings but nothing serious. I had very low self esteem and was flattered an older man was paying me attention.

Looking back, he was an odd man and didn't really care. He dropped me after a few weeks, then took up with me again shortly after. Conveniently, my birthday was in this period. Occasionally we'd go up the Social Club together and while those in our sets knew about the relationship, we never met each others' friends or families or anyone outside the hospital. We never went on holiday together. The age gap was an issue....I remember NYE wanting to go to a crowded pub or a party cos i was young and into partying, but he was always been there done that.

He was quite very arrogant, thought he was really good looking for his age (he wasn't). Obviously we had to move wards every few weeks, if he knew the ward I was going to he'd say ''oh just tell them you know me, you'll pass the placement, no worry'' and I'm like ''no I'll pass because of ME, not YOU and refused to name drop just to get good reports. 🙄

He then moved to a different hospital for various reasons, tried to convince me to change (not necessarily to the same hospital he was in but to a different hospital) but I liked it where I was.

The Nurses Home was Grim, and I applied to and was accepted for a HA Bedsit. It was close to him but even if he'd asked, I knew the relationship was going nowhere and I didn't want to live with him. At the same time, I was changing my bank account and withdrew all the money from my account and was just using cash and next month's pay was going into my new account. I was very short on money, as the Nurses Home rent was taken out out my pay in arrears and the HA wanted their rent in advance, so essentially I was paying two months rent on one months salary. I had an old sweet tin with a label saying kitty that my money was in, before i'd withdrawn my money I'd used it for change for the phone and washing machine in, but on this occasion had about £250 but all accounted for for food, fares, rent etc. He came round to visit and I offered him a cup of tea but had run out of milk so said I was running to the shop for milk. When I came back he said his rent cheque had bounced, could I help? I said no, I could maybe help him with a tenner or something but no more. He got into a hump, said he wanted me to pay the whole lot, and stormed off, and when I rang him the next few times was always ''busy''. Of course I sussed he'd looked in the tin and thought I'd be all to happy to pay a 3rd lot of rent out of one month's rent. 🙄

Anyway by that stage I'd grown a backbone and didn't contact him again and just got on with my life, but a couple of months later he rang a few times begging to come out for a drink but I was delighted to tell him I'd moved on and was no longer interested.

For some reason, though I know he was a total tosser and it wasn't a ''real'' relationship, just sex really, it took me years too forget him even after I got married. When the internet became mainstream, I admit to googling his name occasionally (didn't find anything.)

Spidey66 · 11/05/2022 13:48

Third lot of rent out of one month's pay.

ValerieCupcake · 15/05/2022 23:04

Minimalme · 11/05/2022 11:06

That's great that you are looking to understand your past relationships - make sure you keep the focus on you though.

Remember it is you who chose these men - not because you are 'to blame' but because of past experiences. The men themselves are irrelevant.

You need to understand your past - pre-dating - before you can move forward.

I wish you all the best Flowers

I have arranged an assessment next week to look into counselling. I made a post earlier today. I've been thinking about my past and how I was bullied at school and by neighbouring kids. And by my father and how it all contributed.

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