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Contempt in marriage?

92 replies

HouseD · 18/04/2022 22:37

I think H despises me and I’m not sure why, and how to get back from it. Saturday and Sunday made me realise how bad it is and today I just can’t be bothered. I have written below everything that has happened (and sorry it’s so long, but I think once you read the first few examples you will pretty much get the gist of it). Is this contempt, and is there any way to get back from it?

  1. On Saturday we drove to the playground with our toddler and baby. Baby and I fell asleep in the car. When we woke up, H and toddler were gone and the electric windows were down. He had the only car keys. It was nice of him to let us sleep. I text him to say we were awake and he said he was 2 mins away. I assumed (in hindsight I should have asked) that he was coming back to lock up the car, so when he called 5 mins later asking when he should come back to lock up the car I said I was waiting for him. At this point he had a go at me saying how is he supposed to know that the baby is awake and we are ready to leave. I apologised and hung up, looked at my phone, saw that I had said “we” are awake, told him this when he got to the car. He scrolled through his phone to confirm, and said it still doesn’t mean we are ready to leave because we might have just wanted to sit in the car. All said in a stroppy, harsh tone.
  1. When we got to the playground, he wanted to feed the baby some cheese and it was the only snack I had forgotten to pack, so I offered breadsticks. He looked at me pissed off and said “but I wanted to give him cheese”. I understand it’s frustrating, but I just forgot.
  1. He walked away with the baby to the shade while I supervised the toddler. I couldn’t see H where he said he would be so 10 mins later I got my phone out to text him. Just as I did he came up from behind with a face like thunder and told me to focus on my toddler instead of browsing on my phone. I explained I only just took it out to text him but he ignored me.
  1. I played with the toddler for a good while, then we decided to swap. H held the baby while I got baby’s dinner out standing next to a bench, and while I had a jar in one hand and a spoon in the other, toddler ran into a dangerous area. H had to step in quickly to pull toddler out, so wanted to hand baby over to me. I bent down to put the jar and spoon down on the bench and while doing so he pushed the baby so hard into me that I fell onto the bench. After he had rescued toddler I asked him why he pushed me. This he explained was also my fault (again pissed off), because instead of putting everything down I should have put everything in one hand and taken the baby with the other hand, then I would have been ready to take the baby instead of falling over.
  1. When we drove home, toddler fell asleep in the car. I stayed in the car while H went into the house and started cooking dinner. When toddler woke up we went into the house. Toddler wanted to be with H so I took over the cooking. He told me what herbs and spices to add to the meat and finish off with lots of cream to make a sauce. I had added all the herbs but then realised there was no cream left. H said he would heat up some ready made sweet and sour sauce so I started plating up toddler’s food so it could cool down. I thought he was going to heat up the sauce separately as the flavours in the meat would not have gone with sweet and sour sauce. H got pissed off at me because apparently it is obvious that he was going to pour the sauce over the meat to heat it through.
  1. On Sunday we went to a different park. It was about 25C. Toddler was overdue his nap so was getting cranky, so we wanted to get in the car ASAP with as little tantruming as possible so that he would quickly go to sleep. Toddler asked H if he could wear his sun hat in the car and H agreed. Toddler asked me to put his blanket over his legs and I agreed. H got so angry about this that he put his arm over his mouth and screamed. In the car I asked H why he did that and he said he was very angry at me for letting toddler have the blanket in this heat. I explained that I did not want a tantrum and I can remove the blanket when he is asleep, I was picking my battles and I don’t see why a blanket isn’t ok but wearing a hat while sleeping in a warm car is fine.
  1. When we got home I got out of the car with the baby while H stayed with the sleeping toddler in the car. As I was opening the front door, H also got out of the car, and shouted at me while I was 3 metres away that I slammed the car doors too hard and need to close them more softly, then he got back in the car (and slammed the door). I was conscious that toddler was sleeping and thought I had closed the doors as quietly as possible.
  1. Once toddler woke up they both came into the house, H obviously still looking angry. I asked him what he was angry about now and he called me an arsehole for putting a blanket on the toddler’s legs. He apologised pretty much straight away for calling me an arsehole but maintained the fact I was wrong about the blanket.
  1. Later that evening I said to him that I appreciate he thinks I slammed the car doors but I wanted him to know I was closing them as quietly as possible as I know toddler was sleeping. H immediately got angry, raised voice, speaking over me saying “don’t say that that’s what I think, it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact that I’m stating”.
  1. I had organised Easter eggs for everyone and activities for the toddler, but there was nothing for me. Toddler mentioned that the Easter bunny had hidden something in our bedroom so once the children were in bed I asked H if there was a gift I should be looking for. H said no and that he didn’t realise we do Easter eggs (I’ve done them for him for nearly 20 years). He asked whether we should stop doing it next year for each other and I said he doesn’t have to get me one if he doesn’t want to, to which he sighed really loudly and rolled his eyes so hard I’m surprised they didn’t fall out of his head.

  2. Today, Monday, we had planned a few days ago to go an adventure playground in the morning and spend the day there. I had cooked tonight’s dinner yesterday so we spoke just need to heat it up today. I got up early and got the children up on time and ready to go out at our usual time (we have a set routine for day trips coinciding with naps). I asked H if he was ready to go and… it just descended into him shouting at me for 15 mins and I don’t even know where to start. Apparently I didn’t want to go (even though I kept saying I want to go) because I would have asked to talk to him about it on Sunday evening to plan what food we needed to pack, and I hadn’t asked to talk to him. He said I have no foresight, I don’t plan anything ahead, he has to do everything when it comes to planning. At this point I said I don’t want to go anymore, he said actually he had packed the food already so if he could have 15 mins to calm down we could still go, and I said no. So we didn't go.

OP posts:
Bjarnum · 18/04/2022 23:14

What are you getting out of being with this jerk?

Aquamarine1029 · 18/04/2022 23:20

WTAF. Your husband is a fucking lunatic and I wouldn't tolerate one more fucking minute of his nonsense.

His behaviour and attitude are so outrageous that I couldn't even look at him, never mind live with him.

MolliciousIntent · 18/04/2022 23:23

@Aquamarine1029

WTAF. Your husband is a fucking lunatic and I wouldn't tolerate one more fucking minute of his nonsense.

His behaviour and attitude are so outrageous that I couldn't even look at him, never mind live with him.

Quite.
PeachesToday · 18/04/2022 23:26

Gosh, he sounds like an utter loser.

LadyGAgain · 18/04/2022 23:28

He sounds mega stressed out. What's happening at work? Has his attitude changed and when? How is the juggle of the two young kids? Not condoning his behaviour as he sounds appalling but perhaps root cause is a good starting point. Good luck OP.

Starseeking · 18/04/2022 23:30

There's no way back from this.

My EXDP despised me because:

  • I had a good job, earning double his salary
  • I was intelligent and had a degree and professional qualifications
  • I had an intact family of origin
  • On the face of it, I had supportive DPs

Once you get to the point of wondering why he's doing and saying these spiteful, unhinged thjngs which seemingly come from nowhere, it's time to leave. It really isn't you, it's him.

Peoplearetwats · 18/04/2022 23:35

He’s not a nice or good person, if I were u I’d start making plans to leave/separate Flowers

coodawoodashooda · 18/04/2022 23:38

Look up narcissistic abuse. Keep your head down and get rid of him.

Bellieboo33 · 18/04/2022 23:40

He’s being totally unreasonable in his behaviour towards you, and you really shouldn’t have to put up with being treated that way.
It sounds like he is having a go at you for the tiniest, most insignificant things!!
You’re not imagining things, and your certainly not doing anything wrong, HIS behaviour is totally toxic
So sorry you’re having to go through it OP 💐

Geppili · 18/04/2022 23:41

He is AWFUL!

Thepossibility · 18/04/2022 23:45

It does seem like contempt. It sounds awful, I'm sorry.

AuntMonica · 19/04/2022 00:04

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Suzi9989 · 19/04/2022 00:16

Ur DP sounds hardwork. How much longer can you tolerate him?

This behaviour is damaging ur children too. They will see it is acceptable to treat u the same.

Stop excusing him. You are worth more

WhereWasThatFrom · 19/04/2022 00:26

He sounds really nasty. You must feel nervous of him.

converseandjeans · 19/04/2022 00:26

I would say lots of those things are normal things to bicker about & that you are both tired.

He's being unreasonable to keep on at you though.

Would it work better if you divided the day up? So you both have a mix of family time & down time? I don't think for example you both need to go on a trip to the park. So one of you takes kids to park, come home for lunch & have naps at home rather than one of you having to sit in the car & the other one gets some time to relax. Then head out as a family in the afternoon?

windmillandcoffee · 19/04/2022 00:35

That's narcissistic abuse OP. Look on Amazon for books about NPD and walking on eggshells, then get the hell out. This won't improve. You need your own self-respect and self-esteem back. Trust me, parenting on your own is far easier than this.

DoItAfraid · 19/04/2022 00:38

Your post was hard to read.

💐

He is being awful to you.

Ola636 · 19/04/2022 02:10

If you've been with him for 20 years, he must have a lot of good stuff about him too, so I guess this is a relatively new development? Sounds like he has anger management issues and that might be for lots of reasons, stress, unhappiness at work, other things bothering him? He sounds like me when I have PMT to be honest, ha, but also when I'm very down. This needs attention, something is going on with him, might be anything, but he needs to address it. Take heart. You aren't responsible for him.

Tobacco · 19/04/2022 02:29

He's bullying you constantly and you shouldn't have to live like that. You did nothing wrong. It's not good for the kids to see either

Weatherwax13 · 19/04/2022 02:55

He's a miserable bully and he thinks he has you under his thumb. You should show him otherwise.

Bogeyes · 19/04/2022 03:02

Get rid of this monster. It won't improve

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp · 19/04/2022 04:45

Wow. What a miserable life you have with this nasty piece of work.

Does he criticise the way you breathe too?

Your children will start to treat you this badly too.

Can you leave? Please dump this shit of a man.

autienotnayghty · 19/04/2022 05:45

That all sounds awful , stressful and terrible for the children to be around. And you don't sound like you like him much either. Have you considered leaving?

needmorethanthis · 19/04/2022 05:53

He’s bullying you. He doesn’t want to go to the park. He’s had enough of parenting. It’s all those things. He’s hating his life and taking it out on you. If you really want this to stop (it won’t stop unless you do something) you move out with the kids (no further discussions and if you can afford it) and slam this door shut. Sharp shock. You make him have access without you around and you enjoy your child free time. That’s the only way you are going to get any respect.

Sweepingeyelashes · 19/04/2022 05:55

I couldn't get over him getting so angry about something that he put his arm over his mouth and screamed. And it was about you putting a blanket on a toddler at the toddler's request. The shoving the baby at you so hard you fell over shows a quite frightening level of hostility. Then there's the general ordering about and calling you an arsehole in front of your children. I would literally expect better behaviour from an 8 year old.

I don't know whether he has any redeeming qualities or ever had any redeeming qualities. Whatever they might be, I can't see that they would outweigh this type of behaviour. Who know if he is stressed or not? Who know what he thinks? Who cares?

I think this will escalate. He is just testing the boundaries. I would leave as soon as I practically could. I hope you own the house and that you have skills to get a reasonable job if are currently a SAHM. Would your family be able to help? Can you drive?

I'd certainly be cancelling these outings with him. I would not be putting myself through taking a baby and toddler to these kinds of stress fuelled days out. It's not as if the baby is getting anything much out of it. Is there a local park you walk to with the children for a picnic.

I don't mean to add to your misery but is there any chance his head has been turned. Any new staff member? Any mentionitis?