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Am I silly for feeling hurt and rejected? Should I tell him? (Sex related)

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BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 13:57

I was going to post about this a little while ago, but convinced myself to ‘get over it’. However, I encountered another hurtful rejection last night, so, here am I, looking for opinions!

DH and I have been together for 7 and a half years, 3 DC’s.

Our sex life has never been wild. We go through phases of having it fairly regularly, to lulls where I can’t remember the last time we had it. I’d say we average anywhere between 1-4 times a month.

DH - like most men, I assume - likes getting bj’s and up until the last six months, has never once refused one when I’ve offered. However, since December last year I’ve tried giving him a bj on 4 separate occasions, and each time I’ve been rejected. Two of those times, he physically pushed my face away while I was under the duvet claiming the next day that he ‘didn’t realise he’d done that’ 🤔

Last night, he was sat playing a game and I thought ‘it’s been a few weeks since we’ve had sex, it’s been a month or so since I last tried offering a bj, he’s been all over me like a rash today, let’s make the evening a bit more exciting’. I got down in front of him and tried to do undo his jeans, and his face visibly changed from content to annoyed and huffy. I tried to clearly show him for another few seconds what I was about to do, and was met with a rather forceful “what are you doing!?! I’m JUST about to go to bed!!”. He then immediately got up, turned the tv off and went straight to bed leaving me there feeling like an absolute idiot. I’d like to point out, that before I attempted to give him a bj, he’d not mentioned being tired or wanting to go bed, he was sat there quite happily.

I struggle a lot with self confidence and sexual rejections do hurt me. My ex before DH, used to refuse sex all the time, only to sit in bed next to me and watch porn instead once I’d fallen asleep. DH knows about what my ex used to do, and he’s even said to me in the past ‘your ex was an idiot. How could he ever reject you? You wouldn’t ever catch me doing that. In fact, you could wake me up in the middle of the night for sex and I’d be happy!’.

How has he gone from having the mentality that I could physically wake him up and offer sex or foreplay and he’d jump at it, to him rejecting every single bj offer over the last 5 months?

It’s not just the rejection that upsets me, but the way in which I’m rejected. There’s no ‘I’m sorry babe, I’m just feeling really tired this evening. We can have some fun tomorrow!’, instead I’m met with a pissy attitude or physically being pushed away, then watching him turn his back on me and rolling away in bed.

He’s big on physical touch - constantly hugging me, touching my bum, ‘admiring’ my body when I’m getting changed, he always wants kisses etc so I know it’s not a case of him having completely gone off of me, but I don’t know what’s going on. All I know is that if I keep being rejected, I’m going to end up stopping initiating sex and foreplay entirely because the embarrassment, confusion and hurt is horrible!

Opinions and insights needed! Thank you.

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bluebaul · 09/04/2022 18:17

@BestWishesWarmestRegardss

It's not me that has the issue with talking about things, it's DH, that's why I haven't brought it up yet. He's very difficult to talk to about anything remotely serious - he shuts down and doesn't say a word, or just removes himself from the situation entirely, making it pointless for me to raise 'issues'. Knowing what he can get like, I know that a conversation about sex would be tricky to navigate with him.

Being able to laugh about sex and 'jump straight in to it' doesn't equate to DH being able to easily discuss it

I just couldn't be arsed with this.

You have posted about an issue with sex and defended the very man you are complaining about to absolutely everyone. Now we have this belter that apparently he can't talk about things despite being able to wave his dick in your face at every given opportunity.

He is either an emotionally immature prick or holds himself and his penis in such high regard that you are not worthy of talking to about serious issues. Whichever it is, it's not attractive.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 09/04/2022 18:20

I am astounded by your arrogance. Do you not understand consent? Do you not realise that just because it has happened in the past does not mean you have the right to do it again. Just because you are married doesn't give you rights.

He doesn't even have to have a reason.

If a man posted he was upset his wife wouldn't let him perform oral sex even when he kept pestering her and that he thought he should be able to as she was happy getting naked in front of her he'd quite rightly have his arse handed to him.

Disgusting.

chickenninja · 09/04/2022 18:36

As much as I love MN I think you need to ask on a different forum, one predominantly used by men. Maybe Reddit? We're women, we don't know what it feels like to want or not want a blow job.

If it's not hygiene then maybe the last time you hurt him somehow?
For some reason he's got the ick with bjs, could he have watched something disgusting that's put him off?

If you find out the reason can you come back and tell us because I'd like to know?!

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 18:42

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints Chill! I had a right to be confused about why my previously oral-loving DH had seemingly stopped wanting them overnight. If I enjoyed a particular thing in the bedroom then started rejecting it, I'd have no issues at all with DH asking me about it.

I've just finished talking to him - he didn't want one last night because he wasn't clean, and that's the same for the other couple of times I've tried. He still loves the spontaneity and despite what a lot of people thought, he still has no issues with me 'interrupting' his game (or whatever he may be doing) for oral. We just shared a very raunchy kiss and I was reassured that the only reason he wouldn't want to receive oral from me, would be for hygiene reasons and nothing else.

Thanks everyone for your input and help today!

DH and I will resume our weird, lack of build up sex and silly Willy waving shenanigans!

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SilverBirchWithout · 09/04/2022 18:43

I can’t help wondering whether he senses an obligation to have a BJ or hand-job rather than full-blown sex? And this is behind his irritation at your approach.
Sex adapts and changes in relationships- particularly when you’re trying to squeeze it in around parenting 3 young children. Your sex-life sounds quite spontaneous in the main but also about ‘getting the job done quickly’. Sometimes we want something different to the way our sex lives have become. Maybe it’s stale, maybe he wants more closeness and intimacy rather than a perfunctory BJ, maybe it hurt a bit last time, or he’s just bored.
Personally I would just avoid initiating a BJs for a while, he’s obviously not into them at the moment. Alternatively just a casual chat if you think it will be possible and helpful.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 18:43

@chickenninja I did think about posting on Reddit, actually. Either way, I got to the bottom of it all and just posted how it went!

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SilverBirchWithout · 09/04/2022 18:44

Crossed Post!

bluebaul · 09/04/2022 18:48

I've just finished talking to him - he didn't want one last night because he wasn't clean,

Yet he is happy to 'windmill' it in your face before he has a bath or shower Hmm

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 18:52

@bluebaul you all seem to be really fixated on that. By in my face, I don't mean literally in my face. He's in front of me (maybe a ft between us, two ft, who knows!?) naked, windmilling. His pubes aren't scratching my nose while he dances around.

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Opentooffers · 09/04/2022 18:54

Hmm, so he's not as up for a BJ as he used to be, but he's still up for sex, and you are upset by that? Tbh, what does a woman get out of a bj but the satisfaction of doing something the other clearly likes? - a bit of gagging, some jaw ache & variable degrees of acceptability of taste/ texture/amount as the moment occurs. So, if he doesn't particularly want that, while it might make a person wonder if its been a staple, its no great loss to a woman as long as he's still doing stuff you like.
If you always initiate sex with a BJ, why not switch it up and do something different? Does he give you oral? I would not go near anyone who didn't reciprocate. I think if your needs are met, does it really matter if he's not up for a BJ?

bluebaul · 09/04/2022 18:56

[quote BestWishesWarmestRegardss]@bluebaul you all seem to be really fixated on that. By in my face, I don't mean literally in my face. He's in front of me (maybe a ft between us, two ft, who knows!?) naked, windmilling. His pubes aren't scratching my nose while he dances around. [/quote]

I'm not fixated on it at all, you are just being defensive and ignoring anyone who dares to suggest something might be wrong.

The in your face thing, I mentioned it again because you say he is telling you he doesn't want a BJ bc it's not clean, but he will wave it about like a 5 year old, also when it's not clean. Now he expecting you to be impressed? I would t believe a word of the 'it's not clean' or at the very least I would be wondering why it's suddenly not clean as this is a relatively new development in the relationship.

No need to call me fixated when you are doing your best to ignore or defend anyone who dares to suggest your DH may be at fault here, for whatever reason.

If having a dirty dick waved about in or near your face is what does it for you then you crack on, but don't be surprised when others point it out for the gross act it is.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 19:00

@bluebaul surely you can see the difference between being near someone when you're naked and a bit unclean, and having someone suck on you when you're dirty?

I'd have no issues doing a stupid little dance in front of DH while on my way to the shower, but I also wouldn't want him going down on me if I hadn't bathed in a few days. It's the same principle.

And lol. Windmilling doesn't 'do it for me', but I do think its funny. Crime of the century!!

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bluebaul · 09/04/2022 19:03

[quote BestWishesWarmestRegardss]@bluebaul surely you can see the difference between being near someone when you're naked and a bit unclean, and having someone suck on you when you're dirty?

I'd have no issues doing a stupid little dance in front of DH while on my way to the shower, but I also wouldn't want him going down on me if I hadn't bathed in a few days. It's the same principle.

And lol. Windmilling doesn't 'do it for me', but I do think its funny. Crime of the century!! [/quote]

Of course there is a difference, but I question someone being aware of having dirty genitals but happy to wave them about anyway. However my point was if he is conscious of suddenly having an unclean cock i would be looking for the reason.

GADDay · 09/04/2022 19:09

Could it be that he doesn't like it. I hate oral sex. Not because I am a prude, I genuinely don't like, from anybody ever.

Riapia · 09/04/2022 19:14

Oh aye, aye right.

WonderfulYou · 09/04/2022 19:48

I've just finished talking to him - he didn't want one last night because he wasn't clean

Like myself and several posters suggested and you wouldn’t accept it.

Next time instead of thinking just something about your feelings just ask him (at an appropriate time) and be open and honest about your sex life with each other.
It saves a lot of the guessing games.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 20:04

@WonderfulYou I assumed if the issue was simply that he needed a shower, he'd have said something along the lines of 'I'm actually a bit dirty, can we pick this up again once I've showered'. Rather than getting pissy and storming up to bed.

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TooManyPJs · 09/04/2022 20:16

I find it quite odd that you haven't asked him about this. I'd have had the conversation the first time it happened! You seem very open about most other things I don't understand why you can't talk about this. He's the only one that can tell you why he's reacting like this.

CousinKrispy · 09/04/2022 20:22

So the real problem is that he gets pussy and storms off instead of being able to turn down your advances in a kinder way. Which it sounds like you haven't discussed and will probably still hurt when he does it again, because it's a shitty way to treat someone.

CousinKrispy · 09/04/2022 20:23

LOL, pissy not pussy obviously!

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 20:24

@TooManyPJs I am open and love to talk about things but DH is the opposite, so I put off bringing up the topic because I 1) didn't want him to take it the wrong way, 2) wasn't sure if I was just being stupid and 3) was worried I may have done something wrong and put him off!

I did speak to him this evening and it was a hygiene thing. The last couple of times I've tried, he wasn't clean and didn't want me 'down there'. Any other time he's apparently more than game though!

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BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 20:27

@CousinKrispy lol at the mistype! You're right, he doesn't handle it well. If he doesn't want oral, that's obviously absolutely fine with me, but my feelings of rejection come largely from how he deals with the situation. Instead of simply saying he's not in the mood, he's tired or isn't clean - he treats me like I've done something wrong and pisses off. That's what hurts and makes it feel like rejection.

I did actually say to him this evening, that if in future I ever do something that he doesn't want, he just has to let me know rather than huffing at me and running off to bed leaving me feel awkward.

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Lou98 · 09/04/2022 20:46

[quote BestWishesWarmestRegardss]@MrsRobinsonsHandprints Chill! I had a right to be confused about why my previously oral-loving DH had seemingly stopped wanting them overnight. If I enjoyed a particular thing in the bedroom then started rejecting it, I'd have no issues at all with DH asking me about it.

I've just finished talking to him - he didn't want one last night because he wasn't clean, and that's the same for the other couple of times I've tried. He still loves the spontaneity and despite what a lot of people thought, he still has no issues with me 'interrupting' his game (or whatever he may be doing) for oral. We just shared a very raunchy kiss and I was reassured that the only reason he wouldn't want to receive oral from me, would be for hygiene reasons and nothing else.

Thanks everyone for your input and help today!

DH and I will resume our weird, lack of build up sex and silly Willy waving shenanigans! [/quote]

Glad you got it all sorted!

Ignore the posters going on about how you shouldn't just touch him randomly - you're both happy with it, it's worked for you both this long!
We're the same as I said upthread, I would personally hate to have to discuss having sex every time before getting in to it - I love that my Partner and I can just joke around and the spontaneity/straight to the point. Each to their own and all that!

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 21:18

Thank you @Lou98 - I can imagine our approach may seem weird to those that enjoy the long, dragged out build up, but I much prefer being kept on my toes and having it sprung on me out of nowhere, and DH is exactly the same! I think it's more fun that way. I can't think of anything worse than fumbling around for candles and spending half an hour 'setting the mood' when you can just get down and dirty instantly while you're folding washing Grin

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Lou98 · 09/04/2022 21:37

@BestWishesWarmestRegardss I know! I get that it could seem intrusive to people if it's not what they're in to but I've never understood why it's so hard to understand that people do thinks differently. Some of the comments on here are ridiculous!

I personally think discussing having sex before actually doing it would be too "planned" and a bit awkward. Doesn't mean I can't understand that other people prefer that.

Same with lighting candles etc, I'd soon get out the mood with all the faff 😂