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Am I silly for feeling hurt and rejected? Should I tell him? (Sex related)

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BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 13:57

I was going to post about this a little while ago, but convinced myself to ‘get over it’. However, I encountered another hurtful rejection last night, so, here am I, looking for opinions!

DH and I have been together for 7 and a half years, 3 DC’s.

Our sex life has never been wild. We go through phases of having it fairly regularly, to lulls where I can’t remember the last time we had it. I’d say we average anywhere between 1-4 times a month.

DH - like most men, I assume - likes getting bj’s and up until the last six months, has never once refused one when I’ve offered. However, since December last year I’ve tried giving him a bj on 4 separate occasions, and each time I’ve been rejected. Two of those times, he physically pushed my face away while I was under the duvet claiming the next day that he ‘didn’t realise he’d done that’ 🤔

Last night, he was sat playing a game and I thought ‘it’s been a few weeks since we’ve had sex, it’s been a month or so since I last tried offering a bj, he’s been all over me like a rash today, let’s make the evening a bit more exciting’. I got down in front of him and tried to do undo his jeans, and his face visibly changed from content to annoyed and huffy. I tried to clearly show him for another few seconds what I was about to do, and was met with a rather forceful “what are you doing!?! I’m JUST about to go to bed!!”. He then immediately got up, turned the tv off and went straight to bed leaving me there feeling like an absolute idiot. I’d like to point out, that before I attempted to give him a bj, he’d not mentioned being tired or wanting to go bed, he was sat there quite happily.

I struggle a lot with self confidence and sexual rejections do hurt me. My ex before DH, used to refuse sex all the time, only to sit in bed next to me and watch porn instead once I’d fallen asleep. DH knows about what my ex used to do, and he’s even said to me in the past ‘your ex was an idiot. How could he ever reject you? You wouldn’t ever catch me doing that. In fact, you could wake me up in the middle of the night for sex and I’d be happy!’.

How has he gone from having the mentality that I could physically wake him up and offer sex or foreplay and he’d jump at it, to him rejecting every single bj offer over the last 5 months?

It’s not just the rejection that upsets me, but the way in which I’m rejected. There’s no ‘I’m sorry babe, I’m just feeling really tired this evening. We can have some fun tomorrow!’, instead I’m met with a pissy attitude or physically being pushed away, then watching him turn his back on me and rolling away in bed.

He’s big on physical touch - constantly hugging me, touching my bum, ‘admiring’ my body when I’m getting changed, he always wants kisses etc so I know it’s not a case of him having completely gone off of me, but I don’t know what’s going on. All I know is that if I keep being rejected, I’m going to end up stopping initiating sex and foreplay entirely because the embarrassment, confusion and hurt is horrible!

Opinions and insights needed! Thank you.

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PlainJaneEyre · 09/04/2022 16:11

@Thesefeetaremadeforwalking

Maybe he has someone else? - sorry OP
I have to say this was my first thought. When I was trying to rebuild the relationship with my ex H this is what he did - although he refused full sex too.
girlmom21 · 09/04/2022 16:14

Considering he literally windmills it in front of my face before he has a bath or shower, or the fact he'll be laying on the sofa and just pull his jeans down and wave his dick at me - I think I can say with absolute certainty that he isn't self conscious about the way it looks or smells

If you're this relaxed and open with each other next time he does something like that just say 'why is it fine for you to get it out constantly but not ok when I try anymore?!' And he'll say 'what do you mean?' Then boom... conversation.

gannett · 09/04/2022 16:14

Could be a minor medical issue (assuming not major if he still gets it out and... windmills it). An itch or rash or something. Men can be extraordinarily unwilling to see GPs about things like this. DP had something similar a while back, dragging out his problem was like squeezing blood from a stone. Pretty much had to stand over him as he made the GP appointment, they prescribed a cream, it was healed within the week.

picklemewalnuts · 09/04/2022 16:18

I think people were asking about the condom question, because some men go off sex at home when they are getting it somewhere else.
That would mean you need to use them for your own protection.

Alternatively he's aware of a problem he doesn't want you to notice- could be innocent and just embarrassing, or could be problematic for you.

People didn't see that you'd answered because you simply said 'yes' to the someone who asked. That made it hard to know what you were answering, and it's important, hence people repeatedly asking.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 16:18

@Thesefeetaremadeforwalking if he does, he literally never sees her? He goes to work, he comes straight home. He doesn't go out, he's always with us. And before people jump to the 'how do you know he's at work though?' line - he has a crash detection app on his phone that tracks his journeys. He has a motorbike and after a couple falls and also getting lost at night down a country lane, he got an app so I would know if he'd fallen or needed help. If I wanted to, I can literally see where he is at all times.

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AlternativePerspective · 09/04/2022 16:20

OP, rather than a full blown affair, is it possible he had a bj from someone at the office Christmas party and now the guilt means he’s rejecting you?

You did say this all started around Christmas?

TabithaTittlemouse · 09/04/2022 16:32

He’s allowed to change his mind on what he enjoys.

I probably would feel rejected tbh but I think I would be more worried that he’s ok especially if it was such a contrast in how he usually reacts.

A grown up conversation is needed but you need to take the emphasis away from how you feel.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 16:34

@AlternativePerspective

OP, rather than a full blown affair, is it possible he had a bj from someone at the office Christmas party and now the guilt means he’s rejecting you?

You did say this all started around Christmas?

Definitely not. There was no Christmas party and even if there had been, he wouldn't have gone. He's not very social and never goes to staff events.
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Myotherusernamewastakenagain · 09/04/2022 16:36

What happened the last time you gave him a BJ? Did you accidentally take a wee bite and he's got the fear you're going back for more?

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 16:38

@TabithaTittlemouse nothing else has changed other than him rejecting oral. He doesn't reject sex that often, only if he's absolutely shattered. He rarely, if ever turns down a handjob - in fact, he'd quite happily sit there and let me give him a handjob every night if I could be bothered to do so. He still jumps my bones at what others on here would deem a 'weird' time.

I know he's allowed to change his mind, but you'd think he would've pulled me to one side and gone 'yknow what, I'm really not feeling oral anymore, sorry' and then that's it, job done.

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Midlifemusings · 09/04/2022 16:40

If a man confronted his wife every time she didn't want sex when the man did or if he felt rejected when he tried to just start sex without any notice and she didn't want it....he would be called out for assault and for being a horny bastard who needs to look after his own needs and stop harrassing his wife.

It sounds like you need a conversation if things have changed. People's sex drive changes, or maybe there is an underlying stress or tension or frustration leading to his lack of desire, or maybe he doesn't actually like having his pants opened while watching TV. Instead of trying again, you need to talk to him at a non emotive time - not right after you tried and he said no.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 16:52

@Midlifemusings I haven't confronted him after each rejection - that's surely evident by my original post? I've been rejected a handful of times since December and am yet to talk to him about it, that's why I'm here!!

And again with the 'no notice' thing - I'm not sure how many times I have to explain that that is perfectly normal for us and we BOTH do it to each other. I randomly give him a handjob with no build up, he's happy. He'll pretty much hug for me 5 seconds while I'm in the middle of tidying (for example) then boom, we're having sex. It's just what we do and what we're like. Also, he has no issues with being fondled while watching tv. He often gets it out while we're on the sofa. But yes, I will be having a little chat with him to see what's going on

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DivorcedAndDelighted · 09/04/2022 16:53

Considering he literally windmills it in front of my face before he has a bath or shower, or the fact he'll be laying on the sofa and just pull his jeans down and wave his dick at me - I think I can say with absolute certainty that he isn't self conscious about the way it looks or smells

It sounds like you have fun together and a fundamentally good sex life and shared humour. Just wanted to say you both sound great fun OP Grin

cherrysthename · 09/04/2022 16:53

Could it be that he doesn't enjoy them? And has become tired of faking it?

BOOTS52 · 09/04/2022 16:57

Sorry to hear you are going through this but it seems like he is either watching loads of porn or just been a controlling arse and he knows what he is doing and wants you to feel the way you are. Just talk to him and see what he says, stay calm and tell him things have to change and you both have to communicate more and have more time together or this could be the start of the end. Remind him of what he said to you before about never rejecting you.

Midlifemusings · 09/04/2022 16:59

Well clearly something has changed for him so continuing to do the same thing isn't likely to lead to the response you want.

I am not sure why your go to is to feel rejected. Talk to him and find out what has changed and what is going on. He has a right to only have the sex he wants and when he wants it. That isn't rejection. That is consent.

Man or woman - you shouldn't make it about hurt and rejection because your partner won't have sex with you how you want when you want. Respect their right to their own body and when / how they choose to be sexually intimate. And if there is an incompatibility or a frustration - talk about it.

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 17:00

@DivorcedAndDelighted thank you! Grin I couldn't help but chuckle at how some people were disgusted by the fact DH windmills his dick and called it childish! We think it's funny and if that equates to child-like humour, then I'm fine with that. If I had a dick, I'd probably windmill it at my partner too!

He also does a weird little bent knee, dance thing when he's naked, so that his member swings up and down and hits his stomach to make a slapping sounds. I find that hilarious - but hey, I'm clearly weird for finding things like that amusing Grin

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NoSquirrels · 09/04/2022 17:05

So, neither of you are shy about sex, talking about it, waving willies, getting straight to business. So why haven’t you just said “Hey, seems you’re not into blowjobs any more because you’ve put me off every time I offer. What’s going on?”

bluebaul · 09/04/2022 17:14

[quote BestWishesWarmestRegardss]@DivorcedAndDelighted thank you! Grin I couldn't help but chuckle at how some people were disgusted by the fact DH windmills his dick and called it childish! We think it's funny and if that equates to child-like humour, then I'm fine with that. If I had a dick, I'd probably windmill it at my partner too!

He also does a weird little bent knee, dance thing when he's naked, so that his member swings up and down and hits his stomach to make a slapping sounds. I find that hilarious - but hey, I'm clearly weird for finding things like that amusing Grin[/quote]

I think the childish attitude would be reasonable if it was balanced with the emotional maturity to discuss your sexual problems.

iknowthismuchis · 09/04/2022 17:20

Why haven't you asked him? Genuine question. When you're so open in other ways?

PearlclutchersInc · 09/04/2022 17:25

Maybe its just as simple as he didn't fancy a bj at those particular times?

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 17:34

It's not me that has the issue with talking about things, it's DH, that's why I haven't brought it up yet. He's very difficult to talk to about anything remotely serious - he shuts down and doesn't say a word, or just removes himself from the situation entirely, making it pointless for me to raise 'issues'. Knowing what he can get like, I know that a conversation about sex would be tricky to navigate with him.

Being able to laugh about sex and 'jump straight in to it' doesn't equate to DH being able to easily discuss it

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NashvilleQueen · 09/04/2022 17:42

So OP people have given you ideas for why this might be happening and you've roundly dismissed them.

Do you think it's now the time for you to just ask him?

BestWishesWarmestRegardss · 09/04/2022 17:44

@NashvilleQueen I've already said a couple of times that I will be trying to speak with him

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ldontWanna · 09/04/2022 18:13

@BestWishesWarmestRegardss

It's not me that has the issue with talking about things, it's DH, that's why I haven't brought it up yet. He's very difficult to talk to about anything remotely serious - he shuts down and doesn't say a word, or just removes himself from the situation entirely, making it pointless for me to raise 'issues'. Knowing what he can get like, I know that a conversation about sex would be tricky to navigate with him.

Being able to laugh about sex and 'jump straight in to it' doesn't equate to DH being able to easily discuss it

Would he be more willing/open if you messaged him about it? I know it seems childish but that's how I talk about some big things with OH. I struggle to do it in person, and don't think he'd be very eager either.

So maybe a message like "Hey, I've noticed you've been refusing bj's lately, is everything ok?"

The thing is society tells us that men love love love BJ's and would never reject one and are always angling for one. So he might feel guilty/ashamed/weird /whatever since for whatever reason he doesn't enjoy them anymore. Tbh the same assumptions are made for women too.

As an aside, why don't you go for sex instead when you're feeling in the mood? Why is it so important to you that you able to give him a bj?