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Partner's mum controls DP and our relationship

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PinkStarAtNight · 25/03/2022 10:51

I have just had a big argument with my DP over the level of influence his DM has over him, and therefore over our relationship - mainly when we can see each other. The argument was also caused by me feeling that he doesn't care about spending time with me as much as I care about spending time with him and he also wants more space in the relationship than I do so for a while now I've been feeling hurt over this and I think this has contributed to the argument that has blown up.

We've been together 4 years, but don't live together yet. He lives at home with parents and brother. We alternate between him coming to stay at mine and me going to stay at his parents house. I get on well with his family most of the time and I'm included in Christmas, birthdays, Easter etc etc...

The plan was for me to go to his this weekend. We haven't seen each other for a week - he likes to have about a week between seeing each other because he needs 'personal space' whereas I would prefer to have more of an arrangement of him being at mine for the week and then me spending the weekend at his and then back to mine, sort of on a rolling basis with maybe a couple of days apart here and there. Everyone else I know who are the same age as us and been together 4 years have moved in together or are in the process of doing it. My DP has said we can't do this because he's studying an access to higher education course full time and needs to live at home so that he doesn't have to work, then he'll be at uni for three years. So I'm thinking that the only reason we don't live together is practicality, and it would make sense that we would both want to spend as much time together as possible. However he said he needs a lot of space and time to himself, so we don't do this and there usually is a week between seeing each other.

Anyway, earlier this week DPs brother tested positive for Covid. He is staying home from work and isolating. DP said to me a few days ago 'if DB is still positive at the end of this week you might not want to come over, its up to you.' I said it would probably be ok because its not like I'll be in close contact with him, I've had vaccinations and I'm very much of the opinion that we need to start getting back to normal now. Theres no longer any legal requirement to isolate if you have covid and the government have said they're basically treating it like flu now, and I think with most people being vaccinated unless you're vulnerable there's no need to get too worried about it - we can't keep testing and isolating forever.

DPs family have always been more anxious about Covid so I'm sure if I was positive they wouldn't want me there. But since in this situation its DPs brother who is positive and they've all been exposed to it anyway, I thought it made sense that it would be up to me to make my own decision about whether to take the risk and go visit him anyway.

Apparently not...yesterday DP said his DB was still positive and I probably shouldn't go. I said I would risk it because I really want to see him and I'm vaccinated, etc etc...he then said 'I don't think you should risk it' and was sort of trying to convince me not to, but as he had said a few days ago that it was my choice I was sticking to it. So he eventually said 'well my mum is freaking out about it' and sent me screenshots of messages between him and her on Facebook, where he had asked if I could go over at the weekend. She had replied 'noooo absolutely no way at all, your DB is still testing positive and even if he wasn't we would all have to isolate and wait to see if we have been infected, it would be stupid for PinkStar to come over and no you cannot go over to hers either!'
He had simply replied with 'ok.' and then preceeded to try and convince me to not risk it and come to the decision myself, probably hoping he wouldn't have to tell me that his mum had actually forbidden it so it wasn't actually my choice.

He is now saying that he agrees with his mum, even about him not coming to see me. I keep saying that surely that should be my choice and my risk to take and they are making the choice for me. I also said that it felt that he was using it as an excuse not to see me and that I have a real problem with how much influence his mum has over him and as a result of that our relationship. He listens to everything she says over what I say and if she says he can't or shouldn't do something, he doesn't.

What has shocked me most about this is her saying 'no you cannot go over to hers either.' We are 26 and I feel like she's treating us both like children and he's allowing it to happen, perhaps because he didn't want to see me anyway. He has said I'm completely overreacting and its perfectly reasonable to be cautious over covid but I can't help feeling really angry and hurt over it all. The argument was pretty big and we've almost broken up - i don't know whether I should give up on the whole thing and end it properly.

So, I suppose I'm asking whether I'm overreacting or not? I know people have different views about how we should treat covid going forward, but this is more about his mum and him making the decision for me when I'm actually happy to take the risk. I just feel that its being used as an excuse.

OP posts:
Goldbar · 25/03/2022 16:12

He's not that into you. Do you really want to waste any more of your life on him?

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 25/03/2022 16:15

Has he got another gf he tells his need for space to?
Ltb.
The relationship isn't going anywhere..

LittleOwl153 · 25/03/2022 16:27

So you will be nearly 30 before his next excuse not to give you the relationship you want comes to an end? Nah I'd give up. You are unhappy now. You have 3 1/2 more years at least. And mummy is not going to give up easily at 30 is she? And if he can't stand up to her now he has no chance if you have kids. Can you imagine? Little one can't go to nursery - too risky they'll have to live with grandma.

Just end it. Find someone who wants the same as you. You are currently just sitting out your life on the sidelines waiting for someone who isn't that bothered about being who you want them to be.

EV117 · 25/03/2022 16:56

He’s a big baby. Leave him to be with his mum. Find yourself a grown up man.

Drinkingallthewine · 25/03/2022 17:06

'space' is just another way of saying you are just a booty call. And in this case it's an infrequent one at that.

You are worth more than that. You deserve a man who's looking forward to seeing you, looking forward to actively planning a future together, someone who would jump at spending two weeks of a holiday with you. Do you even go out on dates or is it just going to each other's house all the time?

You are only 26, don't waste your twenties on this guy.

Walkingalot · 25/03/2022 17:09

You're still so young, why are you wasting your time with this fella?
Four years on and he wants to spend less time with you, not more.
Four more years of education before he's earning.
Please bin him off and don't get sucked into the sunken cost fallacy.

PaterPower · 25/03/2022 17:21

I have to agree with almost every other PP on here. It’s his Mum’s decision on who stays at her house - her house, her rules.

But all the other problems with this relationship… WHY are you still clinging on to this? It’s got to be the sunken costs fallacy at play, in which case PLEASE wake up!

He’s 26. Good for him for wanting to better himself, but hanging on for a mature full time student to finish Uni (assuming he actually starts the degree course) is crazy. It’s another three years of living exactly the way you are now except, presumably, he’ll have even less money (and time for you) than he does atm.

If you think you’re fed up now, just wait. Get on with living a decent life.

2Rebecca · 25/03/2022 17:25

If my son still lived with me I wouldn't want his girlfriend continually visiting. I'm not interested in having regular visitors. If he wants his girlfriend to stay over regularly he needs to move out and get his own place. Few people want constant visitors. Invite your boyfriend to your house but stop imposing on his mother.

2Rebecca · 25/03/2022 17:33

I do think it's odd that you thought it was up to you whether or not you stay at his mother's house even when his mother made it clear she didn't want you there.
Find a man. My son is 26 and a student in London and he has his own flat. Being a student is not an excuse for never fleeing the parental nest. Some people just aren't interested in standing on their own feet

me4real · 25/03/2022 18:00

I know some students stay home with their parents, but I would never have done that, I'dve thought it something a saddo would do.

It's worth being a bit less well off to have a grown up's life.

Riverlee · 25/03/2022 18:12

The covid is a red herring to me. Lots of people are still really cautious about covid and mixing with positive people.

However, he’s 26, doing qualifications and then will be going to uni for three years. Does he plan to live at home during uni? If so, he won’t be ‘free’ for another three-to-four years. Do you want to wait until you are thirty. Then there could be another excuse why you can’t move - saving for a deposit etc,

Think what you want from this relationship and the future.

coconuthead · 25/03/2022 19:53

He's just not that into you.

2Rebecca · 25/03/2022 22:46

Was the OP a journalist? She seems to have done 1 post then ran away

BringOnTheOtherWorlders · 25/03/2022 23:30

You are wasting your 20s trying to force yourself on this family. They are not that into you.

SandAndSea · 25/03/2022 23:43

It sounds to me that you want different things.

Sadly, I don't think he's available for a full-time relationship with you.

Geppili · 26/03/2022 00:07

Dump him. Je is a manchild.

PinkStarAtNight · 26/03/2022 14:04

@2Rebecca
I didn't know his mum had any problem with it until he sent the screenshots of her messages. Earlier in the week he had said it was up to me whether I wanted to risk it or not. Then he'd obviously asked his mum and she had said no but he was trying to avoid actually telling me that.

Can't remember who it was but the person who said that the madness of going to a house that has covid in it was because I'm so desperate to spend time with him (because its so infrequent) was spot on.

I do worry that he won't ever even finish the access course and go to uni at all...he's been working hard on the access course for seven years. Keeps getting behind with the work each year and not finishing in time to meet the uni offer, so uni keeps getting put back to 'next September'.

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2Rebecca · 26/03/2022 14:26

He either isn't up to the standard of the course or is lazy and not that bothered with that track record. Is he really interested and motivated about anything in his life? He sounds a bit of a waster

PinkStarAtNight · 26/03/2022 14:33

He says that History (what he's studying) and being a history professor is the only thing he wants to do in life and the only thing that he's passionate about. But he has depression and anxiety apparently so he doesn't have the emotional energy to do the course, and spend a lot of time with me...hes just started counselling and he said that he discussed with the counsellor about how he needs a lot of space and it causes tension with us, and she apparently told him that space is essential in a relationship, so he's convinced that I just want too much and I'm the abnormal one wanting to be together all the time. He said I have abandonment issues and that's why I don't like him leaving to go back to his parents!

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Mooloolabababy · 26/03/2022 14:38

7 years??!! Wow, I don't think he's ever going to do it op. He might say he's passionate about it, but if he really was he'd have passed his access course and finished his degree by now!
You just don't sound like a match, your expectations are too different. Might be time to think about cutting your losses and finding someone who wants to spend as much time with you as you do with them Thanks

Wolfiefan · 26/03/2022 14:39

This isn’t about his mum. He’s not that invested in the relationship. He’s never going to live with you. This won’t progress. Why waste your time?

Lurking9to5 · 26/03/2022 14:43

Even if he weren't an enmeshed mummy's boy, he'd still be avoidant. He needs a WEEK of space in between meeting up !!?!?

Lurking9to5 · 26/03/2022 14:47

@PinkStarAtNight

He says that History (what he's studying) and being a history professor is the only thing he wants to do in life and the only thing that he's passionate about. But he has depression and anxiety apparently so he doesn't have the emotional energy to do the course, and spend a lot of time with me...hes just started counselling and he said that he discussed with the counsellor about how he needs a lot of space and it causes tension with us, and she apparently told him that space is essential in a relationship, so he's convinced that I just want too much and I'm the abnormal one wanting to be together all the time. He said I have abandonment issues and that's why I don't like him leaving to go back to his parents!
It's good he's in counselling but it will take the counsellor a while to see that he's enmeshed with his mother because he is going in to sessions with the ''problem'' that his gf wants to see more of him than he wants to see of her.

If you break it off with him that will show him that you're not afraid of being abandoned.

Maybe you do want too much for him so let him go, be free to find somebody who doesn't need a week to recover from your last date!

Let him find a woman who'll fit in around the fact that mummy's word is law.

COL1N · 26/03/2022 14:49

Honestly, just throw this one back! You are only 26 for christs sake, these are your fun carefree years! I 100% guarantee you that if you break up with him now it will feel shit for abit but in 6 months time you will be so so pleased you did & you'll be having the time of your life!

Shinyandnew1 · 26/03/2022 14:51

He says that History (what he's studying) and being a history professor is the only thing he wants to do in life

If he is struggling to do an Access course (A level equivalence) and have any sort of ‘life’ alongside-he is going to drown at university and then doing a PhD!

I would walk away from this one now before you waste any more years waiting.