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LDR and planning on moving in together, too many compromises?

82 replies

ruddygreattiger · 08/03/2022 21:20

Hi Ladies, I welcome any independant opinions on this.

A bit of background first:

We have both been separated from exes for 5 years, my divorce was finalised 2 years ago, his is still at nisi stage. His ex will not engage on discussions re finance, I have seen email and text communications so know this to be the case.
We have been together for just over 2 years and live 2 hours apart.
I have an 18yr old dd and he has 2 younger kids.
I have been travelling to his most weekends rather than bring his kids to mine as this fits around his access times and days.
For the past year we have talked about buying a house together, my house very recently went on the market, he rents a 2 bed flat.

My main concerns are that to buy a house together that is big enough for us and the kids I would have to put in every penny of equity from my house sale. His divorce is not looking likely to happen anytime soon so he has no lump sum to contribute, but he is willing to have a joint mortgage on a new property.

He constantly says how much better off we will be financially as we would be splitting all the bills and how his kids are looking forward to having a bedroom each, there is no mention of how much he is looking forward to being with me at all. I am prepared to relocate and find a new job because I love him, and lately I am beginning to feel like a mug.

When we first met we talked in depth about travelling abroad and very recently I suggested we go away overseas, sometime next year, on a romantic week away, just the two of us.

His response was less than enthusiastic because he thinks his kids should come with us too.
I would hasten to add I suggested a week away last year, just us, and he insisted on the kids coming too which resulted in one of the worst 'holidays' I've ever been on, his kids constantly argue and bicker and absolutely spoilt it.
I told him in no uncertain terms I will not be repeating it again and am so very hurt that he doesnt want to go away with just me.

After the initial honeymoon stage wore off it has become clear that he is not affectionate or cuddly in relationships. I have to ask for a kiss or cuddle, however he does initiate when we have sex. When we are intimate it is wonderful but lately I can't help feeling that is all on his terms too.

He is diabetic and for the past 18 months has also suffered from very frequent migraines. This is impacting on our activities, where we go, how bright the lighting is, what food we eat and being prepared to drop everything if he feels a migraine coming on and has to basically retreat to the car, bedroom or somewhere dark so he can close his eyes and sleep.
Obviously when this happens if his kids are with us I am left to babysit. They are ok kids but at the end of the day I don't drive for hours to see them, I'm there to be with their dad.

A year into the relationship I proposed and he said he will never get married again, I was very upset but respected his decision and do understand as his ex can make life very tricky from time to time.

I feel so bereft, I love this man so much, but I'm getting the feeling I could be making a huge mistake to buy a house and move in together. My friends have been hinting very kindly that I should think carefully and they don't want me to move away, but they are not impartial.

Tell me if I'm wasting my time ladies.......

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Startuplife · 08/03/2022 21:23

He constantly says how much better off we will be financially as we would be splitting all the bills and how his kids are looking forward to having a bedroom each, there is no mention of how much he is looking forward to being with me at all.

This has huge red flag written all over it. I’m sorry to say it OP but it reads like he sees you as a meal ticket and babysitter.

Gooders1105 · 08/03/2022 21:23

Yep. Lots of red flags. Don’t.

Lastqueenofscotland · 08/03/2022 21:26

No no no no no.
You’re upending your life so his kids can have a room each and his bills are less… AND he’s still married.
Not in a month of Sundays.
However I think this can be the issue with LDRs, I was in one for much of my twenties and I adored the man but he wouldn’t leave where he was living and while I was willing to there was no place that mutually worked for our jobs etc. in the end it fizzled out.
Don’t upend your whole life for this man!!

writergirl747474 · 08/03/2022 21:27

It's all on his terms isn't it?
Are you moving away from your friends to his neck of the woods? To put in most of the equity on a house? And look after his kids? And not even have a romantic weekend away?
You have doubts - or you wouldn't have posted. I'd hold fire if I were you and see if he will compromise on anything. Where does your child fit into all this?

Sassbott · 08/03/2022 21:30

OP. Why are you with this man?

  1. He isn’t moving this relationship forward or even making it about you. It’s about his children and them having a home/ time with him.
  2. Please under no circumstances make/ consider making any joint financial entanglements with him until his finances are resolved with his EX and only if he gets a clean break.
  3. Why are you so keen to marry him when you are equity rich? You do realise that if you marry and house his children, in the event of a split, you could lose part of your assets that you have accumulated? And he could possibly even go as far as to claim spousal as you have housed his children?
  4. why would you want to tie yourself To a man whose children you don’t even enjoy spending time with?

I’d take a huge step back in your shoes, why are you so desperate/ blind to how much you are exposing yourself financially?

BlackCoffeeInAPoolOfSunshine · 08/03/2022 21:30

Don't do that! You're putting in all the money and making all the compromises so that you can be his live in babysitter! By the sounds of it he's all but openly told you as much!

helpmum2003 · 08/03/2022 21:30

Don't move in with him, I agree with PP comments

Byefornow · 08/03/2022 21:32

If you hated the holiday with his kids, what will it be like living with them?

Byefornow · 08/03/2022 21:33

Is your house on the market ready for you to sell up and buy with him? I would postpone/cancel the house move completely based on what you have said.

babytum · 08/03/2022 21:33

You’ve listed every fathomable reason not to sell up and move. Do yourself a massive favour and save yourself the heartache of being far away from support, jobless, homeless and financially tied to a man that’s looking for a financial prop and on-site babysitter.

You are in love with an ideal not a reality.

EmpressCixi · 08/03/2022 21:34

Rent a place together first and rent out your home if you must trial living together.

But he needs to see the doctor about his headaches.

I see red flags too, but not so bad as to mean run away, but proceed with caution.

theremustonlybeone · 08/03/2022 21:37

Sorry OP but your his way to a large house for him and his kids. I would be rethinking your relationship

ruddygreattiger · 08/03/2022 21:41

@writergirl747474

It's all on his terms isn't it? Are you moving away from your friends to his neck of the woods? To put in most of the equity on a house? And look after his kids? And not even have a romantic weekend away? You have doubts - or you wouldn't have posted. I'd hold fire if I were you and see if he will compromise on anything. Where does your child fit into all this?
Yes I'd be moving to his area which is really lovely so that's a bonus for me. My dd was initially going to be getting a house share with some friends after finishing college but that has all fallen through, she is now open to the idea of moving down with me but that's another load of guilty if she doesn't actually like living there.
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haveagohero · 08/03/2022 21:42

@ruddygreattiger you haven’t mentioned whether you are going to buy in his area or yours?

haveagohero · 08/03/2022 21:43

Sorry, cross posted. It’s all in his favour, can’t see what in yours?

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 08/03/2022 21:44

how much money will you have to put in the house.. and how much will he have? a meal ticket is not the only red flag but it's cerainly one.. the only person better off is probably him - he's currently renting.

Don't move, and don't buy with him. wait and see what he's prepared to do to make it work. At the moment i don't see he is 'losing' anything, but i do see you are - your dd is adult ish, you have a house, you are free of having to care for kids .. ... i don't know but it doesn't look good that he's just talking bout holidays for his kids, and bedrooms for his kids.. maybe he's just wanting security/family life for them ..doesn't sound too grand for you from where i'm sitting

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 08/03/2022 21:44

Omg don't do it op...
Surely you are shuddering at his entitlement?
Suggest you wait until he at least is divorced... Technically his half of your new home could be an asset in his divorce?
Are your initials ATM op?

AnotherDelphinium · 08/03/2022 21:46

I really wouldn’t. I think you need a step back. He’s not the man you want him to be; and he’s never going to change into that.

If you want to try living with him, and providing rooms for all the children, suggest to him you rent for a while and see how it goes, his response to this will tell you everything you need to know.

I understand you love this man, but I just don’t think it’s reciprocated, and as much as you dread the thought of starting again, in a year or two you’ll be so glad you did!

ruddygreattiger · 08/03/2022 21:46

@Sassbott

OP. Why are you with this man?
  1. He isn’t moving this relationship forward or even making it about you. It’s about his children and them having a home/ time with him.
  2. Please under no circumstances make/ consider making any joint financial entanglements with him until his finances are resolved with his EX and only if he gets a clean break.
  3. Why are you so keen to marry him when you are equity rich? You do realise that if you marry and house his children, in the event of a split, you could lose part of your assets that you have accumulated? And he could possibly even go as far as to claim spousal as you have housed his children?
  4. why would you want to tie yourself To a man whose children you don’t even enjoy spending time with?

I’d take a huge step back in your shoes, why are you so desperate/ blind to how much you are exposing yourself financially?

Just before I met him I had finished cancer treatment and wanted to get some excitement, fun, and just feel alive again. I think you may be right and that is why I'm so desperate to make this relationship work. I was single for 3 years after separating from my ex and dating never even crossed my mind, however at the start of this relationship I was completely bowled me over that I was getting some attention! Fuck me, that is so fucking sad!!!
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CrumpetStrumpet · 08/03/2022 21:47

Sorry but you would be insane to proceed with this man.

He doesn't want to marry you, he doesn't even want to go away on holiday with you!!! He only shows affection when he's getting his end away. No no no.

You're a meal ticket for him and his children. He is using you op. You deserve a man who can't wait to start his life with you, who cannot wait to marry you. Don't settle for anything less. Ditch his sorry arse. You deserve so much moreFlowers

spacehardware · 08/03/2022 21:47

You're wasting your time

CrumpetStrumpet · 08/03/2022 21:50

It's not sad at all. You've been through a terrible time and you wanted to feel alive. That is understandable. Stay with this man though though you will start dying a little more each day.

It's only been three years and it's not making you happy. You shouldn't have to 'make your relationship work' A good relationship should just work.

ruddygreattiger · 08/03/2022 21:51

@Byefornow

Is your house on the market ready for you to sell up and buy with him? I would postpone/cancel the house move completely based on what you have said.
In all honestly I was going to have to sell my house anyway as I won't be able to afford to cover all the increasing bills and my working tax credits stopping soon when dd finishes college.

Initially I was thinking of buying somewhere outright, be mortgage free and change my job as im currently working shifts.
Maybe that was the right idea all along....

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Fireflygal · 08/03/2022 21:51

Please don't do this...it has disaster written all over it. It generally takes 2 years to know someone so please wait a little while longer.

Don't join finances when he isn't divorced. His wife (since he isn't divorced) will be able to claim he has more money since you will be funding him.

If he can't manage his children on holiday, the day to day living will be horrendous.

I think you have rose tinted glasses and perhaps are reflecting on the honeymoon period rather than reality of the relationship now.

I truly hope you don't go through with a house sale as it could be the worse mistake you make

RachelAshleyWasGuilty · 08/03/2022 21:53

@EmpressCixi

Rent a place together first and rent out your home if you must trial living together.

But he needs to see the doctor about his headaches.

I see red flags too, but not so bad as to mean run away, but proceed with caution.

I agree, rent first.

You might be walking into a nightmare if his wife goes after the house if they are still not divorced!

It sounds like you are making a lot of compromises, so don't leave yourself completely vulnerable in case it doesn't work out.

In light of your previous experience on holiday it might be full on living with his kids...only you know if you will end up bitter and resentful in the long term but you must accept you will always play second best to his dc.