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LDR and planning on moving in together, too many compromises?

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ruddygreattiger · 08/03/2022 21:20

Hi Ladies, I welcome any independant opinions on this.

A bit of background first:

We have both been separated from exes for 5 years, my divorce was finalised 2 years ago, his is still at nisi stage. His ex will not engage on discussions re finance, I have seen email and text communications so know this to be the case.
We have been together for just over 2 years and live 2 hours apart.
I have an 18yr old dd and he has 2 younger kids.
I have been travelling to his most weekends rather than bring his kids to mine as this fits around his access times and days.
For the past year we have talked about buying a house together, my house very recently went on the market, he rents a 2 bed flat.

My main concerns are that to buy a house together that is big enough for us and the kids I would have to put in every penny of equity from my house sale. His divorce is not looking likely to happen anytime soon so he has no lump sum to contribute, but he is willing to have a joint mortgage on a new property.

He constantly says how much better off we will be financially as we would be splitting all the bills and how his kids are looking forward to having a bedroom each, there is no mention of how much he is looking forward to being with me at all. I am prepared to relocate and find a new job because I love him, and lately I am beginning to feel like a mug.

When we first met we talked in depth about travelling abroad and very recently I suggested we go away overseas, sometime next year, on a romantic week away, just the two of us.

His response was less than enthusiastic because he thinks his kids should come with us too.
I would hasten to add I suggested a week away last year, just us, and he insisted on the kids coming too which resulted in one of the worst 'holidays' I've ever been on, his kids constantly argue and bicker and absolutely spoilt it.
I told him in no uncertain terms I will not be repeating it again and am so very hurt that he doesnt want to go away with just me.

After the initial honeymoon stage wore off it has become clear that he is not affectionate or cuddly in relationships. I have to ask for a kiss or cuddle, however he does initiate when we have sex. When we are intimate it is wonderful but lately I can't help feeling that is all on his terms too.

He is diabetic and for the past 18 months has also suffered from very frequent migraines. This is impacting on our activities, where we go, how bright the lighting is, what food we eat and being prepared to drop everything if he feels a migraine coming on and has to basically retreat to the car, bedroom or somewhere dark so he can close his eyes and sleep.
Obviously when this happens if his kids are with us I am left to babysit. They are ok kids but at the end of the day I don't drive for hours to see them, I'm there to be with their dad.

A year into the relationship I proposed and he said he will never get married again, I was very upset but respected his decision and do understand as his ex can make life very tricky from time to time.

I feel so bereft, I love this man so much, but I'm getting the feeling I could be making a huge mistake to buy a house and move in together. My friends have been hinting very kindly that I should think carefully and they don't want me to move away, but they are not impartial.

Tell me if I'm wasting my time ladies.......

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billy1966 · 09/03/2022 19:33

I am so glad to read that your 100% responsibility is to your daughter.

18 is very young.

You moving away to be with this man and his children would hugely change the dynamic with your daughter and I don't know how she would not feel abandoned.

Your ex isn't around.

She needs her mum.

Flowers
REignbow · 09/03/2022 19:56

I think it’s very telling that he is now willing to travel to you. Think about it…

He’s probably sensed your reluctance of this idea and is trying to put out all the stops to make sure it happens!

Read up on love bombing, as I suspect that when you tell him you are not moving he’ll send flowers/pledge his undying love etc etc.

Remember, that he:

Expected you to drive to him to see him (every time)

Expects you to sell your home and move away from your DD

Expects you to essentially foot the bill for this house

Will no doubt expected that during HIS contact time, you were bottle washer, chef and entertainer for HIS kids.

You have survived cancer. Now it’s time to live.

Drop the dead weight, go on an exciting holiday with your DD and have fun.

billy1966 · 09/03/2022 20:49

@REignbow

I think it’s very telling that he is now willing to travel to you. Think about it…

He’s probably sensed your reluctance of this idea and is trying to put out all the stops to make sure it happens!

Read up on love bombing, as I suspect that when you tell him you are not moving he’ll send flowers/pledge his undying love etc etc.

Remember, that he:

Expected you to drive to him to see him (every time)

Expects you to sell your home and move away from your DD

Expects you to essentially foot the bill for this house

Will no doubt expected that during HIS contact time, you were bottle washer, chef and entertainer for HIS kids.

You have survived cancer. Now it’s time to live.

Drop the dead weight, go on an exciting holiday with your DD and have fun.

Great post.

Word for word.

ruddygreattiger · 09/03/2022 20:54

@billy1966

I am so glad to read that your 100% responsibility is to your daughter.

18 is very young.

You moving away to be with this man and his children would hugely change the dynamic with your daughter and I don't know how she would not feel abandoned.

Your ex isn't around.

She needs her mum.

Flowers

At first my dd just said she wanted me to be happy and would be moving into a house-share with friends from college, but thats fallen through and is now open to moving down with me to bf.
She's saying what she thinks I want to hear, even though I know she is probably very scared of the situation, and that breaks my heart

But in all honesty I would feel too guilty taking her away from everything and everyone she knows and expecting her to live with someone else's young kids isn't fair on her at all, especially if it didn't work out.
I can't do that to her when her own father treats her so badly, which is a whole other thread!

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billy1966 · 09/03/2022 21:00

She sounds like a very thoughtful girl.
Watch that she isn't too kind!!

The truth is her moving down there could be hugely discombobulating for her.

Away from all she has known, her friends.

Could be hugely stressful.

Focus on Rightmove with her.👍

ruddygreattiger · 09/03/2022 21:02

@HomeHomeInTheRange

Or just wait, back off for a bit!

Proposing to a man who is still married, when you haven’t even lived together and you find life difficult with his kids?

Yes, massive red flags that he wants to house himself and his kids on the basis of YOUR equity, but you are giving him signals by racing headlong.

Why would you ever marry again? Tie up your assets with a partner with kids? A house jointly owned never appreciates as fast as your own place.

Is your Dd getting SS much consideration as his kids?

I would wait until he is post divorce and knows how much equity he has. If you do decide to buy together you need to have lived together first. It’s different from staying with each other.

And you need to not marry, and buy as tenants in common with your share specified, and left to your Dd in your will.

He has younger kids: if you don’t pay attention to the small print in the financial contract that marriage primarily is, you could end up with his kids living in your house and your Dd disinherited. It has happened to 2 friends of mine.

Have a relationship, enjoy passion, company, friendship. But don’t come loose from your moorings.

Home Home Yes, you are right and I'm not blaming him for everything. I was rushing things and not stopping to think logically. If I'm offering everything on a plate then I shouldn't be that surprised that he ran with it, I'm equally at fault for making it pathetically easy! BUT, I have learnt from this.
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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 09/03/2022 21:07

You'd be utterly mad to buy a house to live in with his kids if you've never lived together before. This has disaster written all over it

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