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Single woman and married men

114 replies

bluecray · 10/02/2022 18:42

There is the argument (which I agree with) that single women should not chase married men. However, how does this argument stack up when the single woman is an escort advertising herself online?

OP posts:
CircleofWillis · 11/02/2022 04:07

In real life I don't know anyone who thinks that it is OK for a single person of whatever sex to sleep with a person in a relationship.

I would seriously think badly of a friend who cheated on their partner and would reconsider my friendship. (Of course circumstances might mitigate my feelings). However I would also to some extent to junk badly of a single friend who had sex with / dated someone already in a relationship.

I think that being willing to cause another person pain shows a lack of morals from both parties. The right thing to do is break off your relationship or wait until the other person has broken off their relationship.

AutomaticMoon · 11/02/2022 04:13

@shouldhavewouldhave Unfortunately the free market is completely amoral. And when you’re trying to survive, morality is definitely not a priority.

Piggyk2 · 11/02/2022 04:14

@hassletassle

Well she's not chasing a relationship is she , she's after a business transaction.

And why would an escort even know a customers marital status ?!

Exactly. It's not the escorts priority
sammylady37 · 11/02/2022 04:55

*Yesterday 19:43 bluecray

CayrolBaaaskin
Also I don’t think single women have a “duty” to “respect the institution of marriage”. They really don’t
I respect your view.

There are plenty of women who would argue the opposite. I've seen it on here and it's a compelling argument*

It’s far from compelling. The only people here who bleat on about single women who have a duty to respect the institution of marriage are women whose husbands have cheated, or women who are terrified their husbands might cheat, and who would rather blame everyone and anyone else instead of blaming their husband, because that would involve facing some uncomfortable truths and possibly changing their lives.

I have no duty to respect marriage as an institution or anyone’s individual marriage. I frankly don’t care about other people’s marriages, no more than I care about their mortgages, jobs or other commitments they have. It’s for them to care about and respect, not me. They chose it, I didn’t.

Pinkbonbon · 11/02/2022 11:51

@bluecray

So it's ok for a single woman to have sex with a married man if she's a sex worker? But it's not ok for a single woman to have sex with a married man if she's not a sex worker?
If a man would have sex with a sex worker then his wife has much bigger problems than him being a cheat.
shouldhavewouldhave · 11/02/2022 12:31

[quote AutomaticMoon]@shouldhavewouldhave Unfortunately the free market is completely amoral. And when you’re trying to survive, morality is definitely not a priority.[/quote]
I'm not judging prostitutes.

I'm judging the people who traffic the vulnerable, who keep them high, and abuse them. And of course the men who prop this up by using these vulnerable women and not giving a shit about the ethics.

blyn72 · 11/02/2022 13:12

@TedMullins

I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to prove is but single women have no obligation to “respect the institution of marriage”. The only people who should be doing that are the ones who are in the marriage, if that’s what they’ve agreed. Are you insinuating it’s okay for single women to sleep with men who are in a relationship but unmarried, because there’s no institution to respect?
I'm not sure about that. There are plenty of girls/women who believe they would be wrong to have a relationship with a married man or even a man who has a steady girlfriend; likewise men who wouldn't entertain the idea of a woman who was committed elsewhere.

What does happen, of course, is people become almost irresistibly attracted to someone - and often believe what they are told. I've seen this time and time again where a young woman is in love with a married man who manipulates her. It usually ends in heartbreak.

There are some who don't care, they just live for the moment.

Prostitution is a whole different ball game.

SleepingStandingUp · 11/02/2022 17:19

I have no duty to respect marriage as an institution or anyone’s individual marriage. I frankly don’t care about other people’s marriages, no more than I care about their mortgages, jobs or other commitments they have. It’s for them to care about and respect, not me. They chose it, I didn’t.
Well you don't have an obligation to respect an institution you haven't chosen to join but surely everyone has a moral duty to not have a relationship with someone who isn't single (exc open etc)
Just like I wouldn't get in a car with a drunk driver or be cover so my mate could shag behind her partners back or do the kids homework and pretend it was them

sammylady37 · 11/02/2022 17:50

Morals are subjective.
My point is that if two people enter into a marriage, the obligation is on them to respect that contract and to honour it. It’s nothing to do with me. It’s not up to me to ensure someone sticks to their marriage vows, it’s up to them to stick to them.

5128gap · 11/02/2022 18:40

I would imagine the incidents of single women 'chasing' married men are vanishingly small. For one thing they wouldn't be worth catching. For another thing you can't chase someone unless they run away from you. However in the highly unlikely event this happened, I would consider it entirely different from working as an escort.

sammylady37 · 11/02/2022 19:53

Even if single women do chase married men, it shouldn’t matter. The married men should respect their wives, their marriage vows and the institution of marriage, and not cheat.

I mean, I respect the law and I therefore don’t commit crimes. Even if there was an envelope stuffed full of €50 notes there in front of me, nobody else around, no CCTV, no way of tracing it to me, I still wouldn’t steal it. Because I know it’s objectively not the right thing to do. It’s illegal. Married men similarly should know that cheating is wrong because it’s a breach of their marriage vows. If they ignore that and chest anyway, then they’re not people of decency and integrity.

Anniegetyourgun76 · 11/02/2022 19:55

@bluecray

So it's ok for a single woman to have sex with a married man if she's a sex worker? But it's not ok for a single woman to have sex with a married man if she's not a sex worker?
It's not ok for a married man to have sex with someone who's not his wife 🙄🙄
Qwill · 11/02/2022 20:00

I have read all your posts OP and I can’t see any logic there whatsoever, so it’s no wonder you are struggling with the ‘logic’!!

fenellastripe · 11/02/2022 20:06

To test the soundness of an argument you can look for exceptions. If you accept the argument that single woman should not have sex with married men then to test the soundness you'll look for an exception to disprove the rule. The exception in this case is the single woman sex worker.
People have pointed out that the single female sex worker is transacting and therefore (I assume) doesn't disprove the rule.
I don't understand that bit.

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