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This is odd, isn't it?

109 replies

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 16:58

I've recently had a couple of dates with a guy I met online. It was going fairly well, and he certainly makes an effort, although his over-keenness was a slight red flag at the back of my mind. I'm an experienced online dater - and have strict boundaries - so I know the signs. Still, it was very early days, and I was happy to just take it easy and see how it went. He's good company.
He has just messaged me with a photo of a Christmas present to himself, which was some nice clothing. In the background of the photograph/room, I saw a woman's high heel shoe. Or actually, more like a heeled strappy sandal, the likes of which you probably wouldn't buy here at this time of year. Now I do know he's single, as he lives close to me. And they're not for his own usage, as he's big built and they'd never fit in a million years!

I jokingly questioned it, and he said that he's sending them as a special request to a female friend overseas (he lived in the same country for years). He bought them, I think, although I could be wrong on that. I guess it is possible that she's an ex who visited and left them behind.

I just feel slightly weirded out by this. Sending a woman shoes (and it was just the one, in the photo) seems like overstepping to me, but I don't know if OLD has made me naturally cynical. Or if I'm feeling this way because my spidey senses had been slightly tingling already.

What would you make of it? Confused

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immersivereader · 12/11/2021 17:37

That shoe is positively strewn about the room

He's lying, op

TheFoundations · 12/11/2021 17:44

If your boundaries were as strict as you think they are, you'd have dropped him the second your spidey senses started tingling.

What were you hoping to gain from the thread? Validation that he's a cheat, or that he's innocent?

Monalotmoore · 12/11/2021 17:45

My first question would be why was it lying on its own and not as a pair? No sign of any label which isn't really anything to go by but they look completely unworn. Perhaps it's not completely unfeasible he bought some strappy little sandals for a friend who can't get them in her own country, but there's way more feasible reasons that aren't abroad. Like a shoe fetish.

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 17:54

@TheFoundations

If your boundaries were as strict as you think they are, you'd have dropped him the second your spidey senses started tingling.

What were you hoping to gain from the thread? Validation that he's a cheat, or that he's innocent?

There's always one ...
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mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 17:56

The friend in question lives in Sydney, so shoes like that would be very easy to come by (unintended pun Blush).

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Suzi888 · 12/11/2021 18:01

If it were a pair and they were in a box then yes. But one shoe, strewn about like thatHmm
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥I don’t buy it!

me4real · 12/11/2021 18:02

I think he has a fetish of some kind OP. Either he gets a bit of his foot in the shoe, or just 'uses' it as it is.

TheFoundations · 12/11/2021 18:05

Not sure what that means, @mycatisannoying, but people with rock solid boundaries leave if their spidey senses are tingling within the first few dates, regardless of whether you want to be critical about it. They're not posting on forums to find out what strangers think.

It might be an idea to have a look at your boundaries, and why you're convinced they're so strong. And if they are, why you're posting here, rather than trusting your gut and leaving the guy behind.

TheFoundations · 12/11/2021 18:06

Also, what were you hoping to gain from the thread?

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 18:09

Oh, I fully intend to end this here and now. I was curious to garner the opinions of others, which is surely why anyone would start a thread on Mumsnet! Call it curiosity, whatever.
Your reply had a sanctimonious and blame-y air to it, which I guess I didn't appreciate.
Thanks for the input anyway.

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RantyAunty · 12/11/2021 18:10

He's lying.
Have you been to his place?

TheFoundations · 12/11/2021 18:11

Your reply had a sanctimonious and blame-y air to it, which I guess I didn't appreciate

Wow. Defensive. Best of luck.

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 18:12

No. I wouldn't tend to go to someone's place after only two dates ... even if he is only round the corner!

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MissConductUS · 12/11/2021 18:27

I dated a guy with a bit of a foot fetish once. Other then that quirk, he was a pretty good boyfriend. But if you're not feeling it, toss him back in the pond.

peridito · 12/11/2021 18:28

TheFoundations might be an idea for you to have a look at why you think "spidey senses" are to be relied on and the implications of doing so .

Notmoresugar · 12/11/2021 19:02

@TheFoundations
Bully for you - must be great to always be so certain that you never have to ask what others make of things.

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 19:04

Thanks everyone - really appreciate it, as I don't have many people in real life I can run things like this by.

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mycatisannoying · 12/11/2021 19:04

@MissConductUS

I dated a guy with a bit of a foot fetish once. Other then that quirk, he was a pretty good boyfriend. But if you're not feeling it, toss him back in the pond.
I would have respected the honesty at least! Smile
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Samedaysame · 12/11/2021 19:14

Maybe he wanted you to see it for whatever reason. I would just dump him you deserve better

WonderfulYou · 12/11/2021 19:15

It could be that he’s putting them into a nicer box for Xmas or more likely he lives with a girlfriend already.
It could be from a previous date but then I don’t know many people who leave their shoes!

Libelula21 · 12/11/2021 19:19

If you zoom in further, are those not slightly worn marks on the shoe? I could be imagining it.

Yummypumpkin · 12/11/2021 19:21

Hmmm....it doesn't look worn.

It looks thoroughly integrated into his possessions. Not something that has just been acquired.

My guess would be a (possibly now defunct) FWB who forgot a shoe one night. I can understand why he wouldn't be fully forthcoming if so.

But I would dump him for having an incredibly messy, disorganised house!

me4real · 12/11/2021 19:23

TheFoundations is right that women who've had abusive relationships often mention the importance of trusting their insticts in future relationships/dating.

But of course it can be easier said than done.

TheFoundations · 12/11/2021 21:01

[quote Notmoresugar]@TheFoundations
Bully for you - must be great to always be so certain that you never have to ask what others make of things.[/quote]
Really? It's just healthy boundaries. None of us should be looking to other people's feelings and responses to guide our own. Bully for anybody who's learned this. No idea why you'd have a negative judgment of it.

Vapeyvapevape · 12/11/2021 21:11

Can you make out the make of the shoe on the label ?