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Is there a cure for mansplaining?

154 replies

PissyMum · 06/11/2021 23:47

I’ve been with boyfriend for about 18 months. We get on really well and have a really good laugh and amazing sex. I’m starting to be driven round the bend by his constant mansplaining though. I only really noticed him doing it about a month ago when he decided to explain the actual meaning of my favourite book that I’d lent him, which he’d never heard of until I lent it to him.

Now the scales have slipped from my eyes I can’t believe I didn’t see how often he does it earlier. I think I’d possibly dismissed it as he is a proper intellectual and a world expert in the field of science that he works in. I don’t have a degree as I dropped out of uni but I read loads, keep up with current affairs etc and can generally hold my own in conversations with most people. I thought that maybe he thought I was a bit dumber than I am or possibly because I’m over a decade younger than him that I dismissed it to begin with. Now he knows me properly he clearly still thinks I’m an idiot though. I can tell when he’s going to start a long winded explanation as even if I say “yes, I know that” it’s almost as if he hadn’t heard me and he just can’t stop himself from continuing in his lecture.

Do you think if I sat him down and really clearly explained how shit it makes me feel that he might actually stop doing it? Or am I flogging a dead horse? He’s late 40’s so I’m guessing it’s probably too late to change now.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 07/11/2021 22:23

@LongBeanTime

Okay, that was uncalled for, and provocative.

But, one says mansplaining, another says nagging... it's all so petty and ineffective.

Nagging, another inherently gendered and misogynist term.

Out of interest are you a man?

Also do you think that being talked down to by men, especially when you are a peer or have advanced knowledge of the topic in hand, is acceptable? Not worth being frustrated and disappointed by?

PissyMum · 07/11/2021 22:35

longbeantime possibly against MN etiquette, I’m not sure of all the rules. I’d say hanging around on a website designed for mums and constantly shit posting misogyny is more of a dick move though.

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ChargingBuck · 07/11/2021 23:54

and would occasionally cry with rage if I disagreed with him.

Grin grin] Grin

I can guffaw at will @irishoak, as you are safely shot of the twat.
Hope you disagreed with him A LOT just before you sacked him.

whistleryukon · 08/11/2021 00:05

@LongBeanTime

Okay, that was uncalled for, and provocative.

But, one says mansplaining, another says nagging... it's all so petty and ineffective.

I'm afraid that you don't understand the fundamental differences between these two terms. You appear to have just used two words in the same sentence which do not correlate within the context of the point you are trying to make. Happy to have helped with your confusion, sorry that you have been struggling with comprehending this stuff, it is hard for some people.
ErrolTheDragon · 08/11/2021 00:14

Still, as it's come up, the cure for most 'nagging' is for blokes to do their share of housework & parenting or exhibit a bit of nous without having to being asked more than once. HTH.

whistleryukon · 08/11/2021 00:23

Yes, perhaps this cohort of men should just stop bitching. As our learned friend puts it.

altmember · 08/11/2021 00:26

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended, be courteous and take the time to listen to someone (whether they're man, woman or child). You just might learn something you don't know, otherwise just tell them you already knew all that.

user367862167 · 08/11/2021 00:38

I use the term mansplaining when this happens, seems to work

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 08/11/2021 00:42

@altmember

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended, be courteous and take the time to listen to someone (whether they're man, woman or child). You just might learn something you don't know, otherwise just tell them you already knew all that.
🤣🤣🤣

you forgot to add "and smile"

Verbena87 · 08/11/2021 00:44

Get a buzzer to press every time he does it, a la Sue White in Green Wing.

ChargingBuck · 08/11/2021 00:56

@altmember

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended, be courteous and take the time to listen to someone (whether they're man, woman or child). You just might learn something you don't know, otherwise just tell them you already knew all that.
Point of order.

Have you ever tried telling a mansplainer in full spate that you are actually an expert in what they are droning on about, @altmember?

SPOILER - it doesn't stop 'em.

ChargingBuck · 08/11/2021 00:58

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended

Oh, I don't take offence.
I just get bored & fucked off.

Unless the mansplainer is making a total arse of himself. Then I tend to tease. Roughly.

immersivereader · 08/11/2021 01:14

The other day DH didn't believe me that our neighbour used to have a Volkswagen Golf. I said, he definitely had a Golf. No, it was a Passat said DH. He had to check with DS (7), what car did the neighbour have before their new one???

You guessed it.

A fucking GOLF.

Wanker

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 08/11/2021 01:27

once at a party someone was talking about goulash so I said I have a good recipe.
then some tosser tried to mansplain it to me.

dude, I'm Hungarian.
fuck off
(fyi it's not goulash. it's gulyás)

Megalameg · 08/11/2021 04:02

“Mansplaining” “nagging” “bitching” - all gendered terms which are insulting. If you want to say the word “nagging” is misogynistic and shouldn’t be allowed but then use a term like “mansplaining” like it’s a righteous act of empowerment take a look at yourself.

You can’t expect to use gendered terms against men then turn round and try to say theyre misogynistic and bad when they do the same to you. I know posters here will say there’s a difference - there’s not. And for the record I don’t care about any of those terms being used.

RockinHorseShit · 08/11/2021 04:32

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended, be courteous and take the time to listen to someone (whether they're man, woman or child). You just might learn something you don't know, otherwise just tell them you already knew all that.

Pahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂

Do we smile sweetly too

Jog on

PissyMum · 08/11/2021 07:06

altmember it doesn’t offend me, I just find it boring.

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SisterMichael · 08/11/2021 09:46

This made me laugh.

Is there a cure for mansplaining?
Verfremdungseffekt · 08/11/2021 10:00

@SisterMichael

This made me laugh.
Grin Grin

@SisterMichael, I feel that asking yourself 'What would Sister Michael do?' in many situations produces illumination.

Is there a cure for mansplaining?
SisterMichael · 08/11/2021 11:47
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ArdeaCinerea · 08/11/2021 12:33

Tbh in my experience most men engage in mansplaining to some degree, because they are socialised to believe they're smarter and more knowledgeable than they actually are- that's just the world we live in.

The difference is in how they react when you point it out. I do it jokingly and lightheartedly at first. The guys who get it and can laugh at themselves are keepers. Those who get pissy and dig their heels in, still claiming they know better than you: throw away the entire man.

supremelybaffled · 08/11/2021 12:44

@Karwomannghia

Is it always mansplaining or is it sometimes info dumping? I’ve read about this recently and have recognised it in others. Could it be that he doesn’t actually care whether you know something or not but just gets something out of explaining / recalling a process? More socially unaware than arrogant.
It all depends on whether or not they would impart the same information in such detail to a man.
supremelybaffled · 08/11/2021 12:47

@MatildaIThink

Is he actually "mansplaining", or does he just think you aren't very bright? I work with some incredibly intelligent people, national or global leader in their field level people and unless they know someone is similarly intelligent they tend to follow the default that the person they are speaking to is not as smart as them, because in all liklihood they are not. I used to think one of the professors on projects I manage was mansplaining, then I realised he talks to everyone in a similarly explanantive way until he has established they actually understand (or they have the credentials which show they understand).

Some super intelligent people explain everything to everyone, it is not mansplaining, just explaining.

Some super intelligent people wait till they're asked...
supremelybaffled · 08/11/2021 12:59

@altmember

Yes, the 'cure' is to stop being so easily offended, be courteous and take the time to listen to someone (whether they're man, woman or child). You just might learn something you don't know, otherwise just tell them you already knew all that.
Thank you for explaining that to me.

Until now, I never knew that I needed to be cured of being irritated by twattish men talking down to me.

Fimofriend · 08/11/2021 13:12

jeez. There has already been three posters on this thread suggesting we should just be submissive and/or happy that our masters deign to teach us new things.
Hellooo? The definition of mansplaining is someone explaining something to a woman that she obviously has superior knowledge of. How is that not rude? Why should such extreme rudeness not qualify for a harsh reply?