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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

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HollowTalk · 06/11/2021 14:37

That's really shocking. His lack of respect is awful. I would focus on getting him to leave. I'd certainly talk to a friend before telling him that, in case he turns nasty. Just knowing that your friend is aware of what's happened will stop him in his tracks.

I'm glad you're taking the MAP. The very last thing you want is to be pregnant by him again.

Quartz2208 · 06/11/2021 14:42

The line in with you OP and that is the bit that he isnt getting. He may well like it but it needs to be consensual and have clear boundaries in place. Neither of which he does. Not only does he not ask if you like it, he overrides you asking for gentleness and he causes you pain. That is violence not rough. You not consenting must be part of it that turns him on

And it is a distinction as a police officer he should be well aware of

Yogawankonobi · 06/11/2021 14:43

Ask him to leave op. You can’t think with him there. I’m sorry that you are going through this and I’m sorry for the idiots excusing him on here.

He’s not a good dad if he rapes his child’s mother.

He’s a police officer, he knows what rape is.

You wouldn’t be ruining his career/relationship with his dc, he would. You haven’t done anything wrong.

The national rape helpline are extremely helpful so do call them.

angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 14:43

Why are you in two minds about asking him to leave when you know what he is capable of?

Because he helps with the baby. I know that sounds pathetic. But I find it really hard on my own.

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dresstokillmytime · 06/11/2021 14:45

@IfIHadAHeart

Yes, it explains why I’m asking about his shifts Hmm
Don't.
RandomMess · 06/11/2021 14:46

Have you a nursery place/childminder sorted out for your return to work? Bring it forward so you aren't just being Mum 24/7.

He doesn't even do his share as a parent does he? Just "helps".

Bellringer · 06/11/2021 14:46

You can get childcare. Be safe

Mydogmylife · 06/11/2021 14:46

@Nanny0gg

IfIHadAHeart is a police officer apparently. (Yes I looked)
Ye gods! Makes me wonder what hope there is for us all
Yogawankonobi · 06/11/2021 14:47

@angryandscared1 it might be hard at first but a lot easier than being abused by someone who should keep you safe and love you. You’re worth more than this.

layladomino · 06/11/2021 14:47

You have told him, multiple times in the past as well as last night, that you don't like rough sex.

He knows that very clearly. He also knows you don't want sex without a condom.

He ignored both and his best 'excuse' is that he gets carried away?

A find it really shocking that anyone - least of all a Police Officer - would find that to be a reasonable cause for assualting someone. In effect he's saying that he isn't in control of his actions and therefore isn't responsible for them. So he can't promise he won't do it again. He can't promise he won't strangle you during sex. Because he isn't in control of his actions.

I was shocked at what he did last night. I'm utterly appalled at his lack of remorse or care for you.

BackBackBack · 06/11/2021 14:48

@Lweji I meant it in the sense of, what he thinks is rough sex is actually violence against her which she has not asked for or consented to and therefore not acceptable, as rough sex needs the consent of both parties.

jeaux90 · 06/11/2021 14:50

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

I'm a single mum, honestly it's hard at times yes especially when they are little but no way as bad as living with someone who abused you.

You can do this.

hereorhome · 06/11/2021 14:50

I'm sorry this has happened to you, OP.

If calling it rape is too hard for you right now (it was, but I get why it may not be easy to accept it for what it was) at the very least he selfishly put his sexual gratification above any love or respect for you. That's hard to come back from.

I'm glad you've got some RL support.

Wishing you strength for what is to come Flowers

nomorefrogs · 06/11/2021 14:50

You cannot stay married to a rapist because he helps with the baby. If you separate he would have the baby at set times which would be very useful to you as a single mum. I'm afraid you need to act. Unless you want to have a relationship with a man who rapes you and shouts at you and sulks when you try to resolve your upset then you really have no choice. Abuse never goes away, it increases over time.

Mydogmylife · 06/11/2021 14:51

@IfIHadAHeart

Yes, it explains why I’m asking about his shifts Hmm
But WHY? Do his shifts make the least difference to his actions ? Absolutely not. Your questions are totally bizarre
dresstokillmytime · 06/11/2021 14:52

@angryandscared1

Why are you in two minds about asking him to leave when you know what he is capable of?

Because he helps with the baby. I know that sounds pathetic. But I find it really hard on my own.

It doesn't sound pathetic at all. You weren't planning to do this on your own.

It would be good for you to have some space away from him to think.

Esspee · 06/11/2021 14:52

Please kick him out and have the whole incident recorded by visiting your doctor to check the damage. You don’t need to report him but if things escalate in the future you need to have evidence of why you left him.
Pregnancy does not need male ejaculation. All it needs is one lucky little swimmer to escape into your vagina and reach your egg. Yes, it’s unlikely but can happen so a MAP is now essential.

I feel for you OP but you have a lovely baby, a good job to go back to so you can support your child and the rest of your life in front of you. You will be fine. 💐

Yogawankonobi · 06/11/2021 14:53

@Mydogmylife she’s troll hunting.

BackBackBack · 06/11/2021 14:57

@Esspee

Please kick him out and have the whole incident recorded by visiting your doctor to check the damage. You don’t need to report him but if things escalate in the future you need to have evidence of why you left him. Pregnancy does not need male ejaculation. All it needs is one lucky little swimmer to escape into your vagina and reach your egg. Yes, it’s unlikely but can happen so a MAP is now essential.

I feel for you OP but you have a lovely baby, a good job to go back to so you can support your child and the rest of your life in front of you. You will be fine. 💐

Very sensible advice here.

OP if you don't want to report him, then you don't have to right now. But do get this on record with your GP. It doesn't have to go anywhere unless you want it to, but having it on record gives you the option if you change your mind at a later date.

RunningScarabbed · 06/11/2021 14:58

He's a piece of shit. I honestly don't think it even matters what you call it, he showed zero concern for your comfort and well-being. He was more interested in having sex the way he wanted it than with how you were feeling, not to mention your concern about becoming pregnant again, and then he didn't even have the grace to pretend to be sorry about behaving like a wild animal!

He'll probably always be a piece of shit, no matter how much he helps with the baby. Other people can help, and besides, he can damn well continue to help care for his child even after you've split.

SylvanianFrenemies · 06/11/2021 14:58

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.
What kind if man has to contain himself from being rough to his partner from grabbing her throat? For all he may have good qualities he is not your partner in the true sense if the word. He doesnt care about or respect your needs and boundaries.

Ask him to go for a bit. Confide in someone real life. You might just find not having him around liberating.

MrsHGWells · 06/11/2021 15:01

Your OH needs to get a grip on the enormity of the situation, before you take any next steps. Your partner put HIS needs ahead of yours. End of.

He did NOT listen to your needs or treat you with respect. Any decent man would stop if his partner said stop or was not enjoying the act.

Cosensual sex is not feeling as you do now OP during afterwards. You know this.

OP your feelings count and you need to make sure you are physically and emotionally looked after. Please see your GP /&or a counsellor.
You need this on your personal file that if anything ever happens in the future should you ever need to press charges for a repeated incident.

This is an abuse of power, this does not invalidate or reduce your ability to speak up. Do not stay in a victim role. Please seek help and look after yourself and your baby.

HereticFanjo · 06/11/2021 15:04

He is a disgusting pig and I hate him without ever having met him. I am so sorry this happened to you. Get rid of him from your life x

PickupaPenguin8 · 06/11/2021 15:04

@angryandscared1

Why are you in two minds about asking him to leave when you know what he is capable of?

Because he helps with the baby. I know that sounds pathetic. But I find it really hard on my own.

It's not pathetic at all. It's totally understandable.
Begrateful · 06/11/2021 15:04

Absolutely awful, leave the scoundrel!

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