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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

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SpringCrocus · 06/11/2021 14:15

I'd also be worried about injuries to you from his rape. You said it really hurt. Can you get checked out, to make sure everything is ok?

Dixiechickonhols · 06/11/2021 14:15

You poor thing that’s horrible. You can’t tolerate that. Please take care and get some real life support.

SpringCrocus · 06/11/2021 14:16

And yes. Tell him to go somewhere else and give you thinking space

JedEye · 06/11/2021 14:17

@angryandscared1

If I asked him to go stay elsewhere he would, yes. I'm in two minds about this.
This could give you some time to think and to process what’s happened. You are currently undecided about how you feel. Some space away from him might help you.
EveningOverRooftops · 06/11/2021 14:17

@SpringCrocus

I'd also be worried about injuries to you from his rape. You said it really hurt. Can you get checked out, to make sure everything is ok?
Yes I would do this too OP. Please see someone and it would be worth recording these details, even if you don’t progress further should, down the line, things escalate and I’m sorry to say they almost always do.
Nanny0gg · 06/11/2021 14:18

@angryandscared1

I basically said to him why do you do it, does sexual violence honestly turn you on? He said not sexual violence, just rough sex. Well where's the line?!? I honestly can't even be around him.
So he needs to be elsewhere now.

Not in your home

Nanny0gg · 06/11/2021 14:20

@angryandscared1

I basically said to him why do you do it, does sexual violence honestly turn you on? He said not sexual violence, just rough sex. Well where's the line?!? I honestly can't even be around him.
Decent men get turned on by having a willing partner, whatever their predilections.
Novemberchild2 · 06/11/2021 14:22

Wow that's awful @angryandscared1

He doesn't respect you and used you like a piece of meat. Appalling that despite you insisting he wear a condom and be gentle he did neither. Its rape.

HyacynthBucket · 06/11/2021 14:22

You need to get away from this relationship OP now. If he would go for a while if you said you needed "space", maybe you could change the locks and make the tenancy into your sole name while he is away. Why should you and DC lose your home over this? This may not actually be legal, however, so maybe others on here who know the legal score could comment. But do end the relationship as safely as possible, so that you are not in danger. He sounds a nasty and potentially even more violent man.

BackBackBack · 06/11/2021 14:23

@angryandscared1

I basically said to him why do you do it, does sexual violence honestly turn you on? He said not sexual violence, just rough sex. Well where's the line?!? I honestly can't even be around him.
My response to that would be: What's rough sex to you is violence to me. I don't like it. I don't enjoy it, I don't consent to it - and yet you do it anyway. So what does that make you?
MzHz · 06/11/2021 14:23

You don’t have to report him, no, that’s utterly your decision

But not reporting him doesn’t mean you have to put up with this

You earn more than enough to care for yourself and your baby, you absolutely can manage being a solo mum, I guess he’s convinced you you’d struggle hasn’t he?

Ask him to leave for a while, take the time to talk to Rape crisis and work out how you are going to move onwards from this.

He’s not the man to be with, he’s not one to have a relationship with. Let someone else report him if you can’t face it, this is your life and you do have a child with him.

At the end of the day you have to be able to live with yourself when it comes to making decisions like this.

I’m sorry, I do think your relationship is over (((hug)))

Lweji · 06/11/2021 14:24

What's rough sex to you is violence to me.

I have to disagree. Rough sex must be mutually consented. It's not a matter of opinion where both points of view can be valid.

MzHz · 06/11/2021 14:24

What I meant by the let someone else comment is that he’s not going to stop being who he is, so you just get yourself away and keep yourself safe. If he chooses not to learn from this, someone else will bring him down.

Nanny0gg · 06/11/2021 14:25

IfIHadAHeart is a police officer apparently. (Yes I looked)

titchy · 06/11/2021 14:26

Ask him to move out for a few days. You don't have to decide on whether it's permanent or not, but you do need space away from him to think.

Lweji · 06/11/2021 14:26

I'm off to the chemist shortly for MAP. He thinks this is unnecessary.

Some abusers make their women pregnant to keep them under their control.
At the moment, even with one baby you are self sufficient. Would you be with another baby? Think about this.

ChargingBuck · 06/11/2021 14:28

@angryandscared1

I basically said to him why do you do it, does sexual violence honestly turn you on? He said not sexual violence, just rough sex. Well where's the line?!? I honestly can't even be around him.
My dear, remember what he said when you told him it was rape last night? HE DOES NOT CARE WHERE THE LINE IS.

He will cross it again & again, just like he crossed the line with shouting until you were scared enough to back down, putting his hands round your throat, being rough when you expressly said be gentle, & raping you without a condom.

You told him you didn't like any of that & he must stop doing it. How many times? He kept doing it.

He calls it "rough sex" because this has been used, & therefore recognised legally, as a defence in some rape cases. He knows damn well it was violent - you asked him to stop enough times.

But he will not allow you to name what has happened, because he needs to minimise his behaviour & paint you as somehow "too sensitive" (you are not).
Telling you that you do not need the MAP is just the same process of minimisation.

He expects you to accept his bullshit lies about what he did to you, he expects you to stay, & he expects you to put up & shut up.

When you go out to the chemist, will you also be able to visit your friend?

Lweji · 06/11/2021 14:28

Also adding from experience.
He may be say yes to moving away for a few days to "let you cool off". But don't think he will be happy if the result is anything else other than he's forgiven and you take him back.

Askingforfriend · 06/11/2021 14:28

wow, yes, not a prize. I can't see this working out. Lack of respect from one or both in a relationship is the one thing you can't really fix.

PickupaPenguin8 · 06/11/2021 14:31

Good God. I could never have sex with him again after that. I am quite serious. I feel so sorry for you.

SpringCrocus · 06/11/2021 14:33

@Nanny0gg

IfIHadAHeart is a police officer apparently. (Yes I looked)
Wow. That explains a lot, if so.
StopGo · 06/11/2021 14:33

You've bravely admitted you were raped. Pease report this man. Good fathers don't rape the mother of their child.

Take the baby and go to the pharmacy. Tell the pharmacist what happened, they will help you.

WonderfulYou · 06/11/2021 14:34

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IfIHadAHeart · 06/11/2021 14:34

Yes, it explains why I’m asking about his shifts Hmm

PickupaPenguin8 · 06/11/2021 14:35

The OP is in shock. Give the woman a break. She's been traumatised.