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So confused am I to blame?

112 replies

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 12:29

I’m really struggling with my relationship. We’ve not been together that long, 18 months. We have a great time together and he’s great in many ways. When I was unwell in summer he went above and beyond to look after me. We laugh a lot and I honestly thought this was it after a few months. But he’s often quite miserable/stressed/unhappy and this has come out even more so recently, though I don’t know why.

  1. It’s maybe a small thing but at the start of the year I said I’d love to go away for a couple of nights together in the uk. He said he’d enjoy this but he wanted it to be end of summer so he could focus on work (his work is always most busy in summer). I was disappointed but left it at that and said let’s go in autumn. I’ve been away with friends, it’s not a big deal.
Anyway, fast forward to now and I mentioned again taking a Friday off work so we could travel a couple of hours to the beach and stay until Sunday afternoon. He’s almost turned on me, said I am controlling, I like things my way and only my way, and he doesn’t know when he can do this. I’ve been totally taken aback by it as he’s repeatedly told me he’d love to have a couple of nights away, we’ve even looked at places to stay and he knows I had provisionally booked it on line (free cancellation). He’s been quite nasty about it - I apparently like spending money and he doesn’t (I don’t particularly or any differently to anyone else, plus we both have money, both over 70k, so I can’t see that’s the issue, this place was 143 for 2 nights!!). I’m apparently always wanting things my way… I booked the place with a pool that he liked so he could swim. I hadn’t even asked him for the money, not even considered it actually. I would probably have just paid. He says I like doing ‘lots of things’ and he doesn’t Confused we mostly stay in and I’m happy with that, I like being at home. He also has masses of holiday to take, his colleagues have been off intermittently throughout the year. It doesn’t make sense to me.
  1. He can become consumed by worries, and at the weekend he moped around saying he was missing his dad and sibling and he was worrying about them (both have quite bad depression but function day to day). I spent two hours talking it over with him. He never seems to recognise that I do these things and will just sit and stare for what seems like hours, looking angry/upset. I will try and encourage him to be positive and see his family and book time off to do it and he just becomes defensive saying he knows he needs to do that but it’s a big task for him to look into it Hmm
  1. Whenever I’ve tried to talk calmly with him he just withdraws and doesn’t say much other than I’m attacking him. I can literally say i love you and can we talk about x and he will just automatically frown and withdraw and look annoyed. I feel like I can’t mention anything with a view to moving forwards, in fact last time I raised anything he said I wanted to get the moral high ground?!
  1. In the early days I turned up on time and he said oh I didn’t expect you to actually get here for now, I’m still doing stuff, and asked me to sit in the lounge while he was upstairs.

I’m just so exhausted. I met him through a friend of a friend and this friend warned me his last relationship ended age 22 and he’s now 39. She said steer clear and I wish I had. I struggle to deal with the misery and negativity. I just don’t understand it.

I’ve messaged him today saying would he like to go for a drink to unwind when he’s back or alternatively I could get some nice wine in and we could stay home. He’s not replied but I expect he will just say he’d rather stay in and will be quite abrupt about it.

I was on the cusp of ending it but maybe he’s right I’m controlling and it’s my issue and I need to relax? There’s this horrible doubt in my mind now about whether I’ve behaved awfully like he’s suggesting. I’m so confused.

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HHSchultz · 08/10/2021 13:17

Yes I'm sure you have posted about this already, nothing will change with this guy, don't waste time on it and I say that from experience.

notacooldad · 08/10/2021 13:18

he’s a quiet, hard working, polite man though
You can have all those qualities and still be an absolute twat.

KurtWilde · 08/10/2021 13:19

@OrlandointheWilderness

"She said steer clear and I wish I had" This is the only sentence you need. It's not you. I'd finish it.
Agree this sentence says it all. He's not right for you, and you know it if you're being honest with yourself.
KurtWilde · 08/10/2021 13:22

Also if I'd stayed quiet we'd be fine now is not ok. That's how things were with my ex and it's no way to live.

theleafandnotthetree · 08/10/2021 13:22

[quote Treacleshf]@Keepitonthedownlow he’s a quiet, hard working, polite man though. That’s what makes me wonder if it’s me.[/quote]
He can be all those things and still be a bit of a misery guts or simply not for you though. Those are great qualities to have but I would also like someone with an enthusiasm for life, who is willing to compromise, who would be EXCITED at the idea of doing things himself and with me (outside the house!). You are not looking for the moon on a stick here, you really arent.

BreadPita · 08/10/2021 13:23

You're both compromising. Neither of you are happy because it means you're both not living the life you'd prefer.
You should end it. Find a guy who likes holidays. There are plenty.

notacooldad · 08/10/2021 13:26

You're going to stick with him aren't you.

It's pointless anyone on here giving advice, sharing our knowledge and experiences of relationships.

You carry on doing what you want and making excuses for this angry, nasty bloke.

To be honest I'd rather never have a relationship for the rest of my life than hanker after someone who is angry and plays stupid mind games with me.

Hadalifeonce · 08/10/2021 13:26

IT IS NOT YOU!!!!!!!
You are getting very little from this relationship, you are suggesting nice things to do as a couple, he fats all arsey about it and calls you controlling for daring to suggest, not even demand.
Walk away now.

Wildheartsease · 08/10/2021 13:29

After you have left - and when you begin worrying about 'is it me'

Keep in mind that the two of you are simply not compatible - even though you both like to laugh sometimes.

A few mis-matches:
-You like to go out occasionally and have holidays... he doesn't like to go about at all.
-He likes to sulk and draw out disagreements when he feels moody... you feel responsible for his feelings and worry.
-He can be hurtful in arguments... you feel deeply about what he says and can't let it wash over you with a 'oh he's a bit moody today'.

You need someone else!

Wildheartsease · 08/10/2021 13:30

(I'm not sure he would easily find any match!)

AnotherEmma · 08/10/2021 13:30

It's obvious that he's emotionally abusive.
What I don't understand is why you're tying yourself in knots analysing everything instead of running for the hills.
Why is your bar so low? Have you been treated badly in the past by your parents and/or partners?
If your self esteem wasn't already low when you met him, it will certainly be low by the time he's finished with you.
LTB.

JudgementalCactus · 08/10/2021 13:30

@DressBitch

So, you want to go away and he doesn't.

And now you're not going away, yet you're controlling and always like things your way, but actually you're doing exactly what he wants, not what you want?

Have I got this right?

Nice catch. He gets his way and you're left tied up in knots feeling guilty and unreasonable.

That's no way to live. You deserve better.

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:32

Sorry to have frustrated posters. I’m struggling with this and have low self esteem. I’m in therapy for it and she suggested I post on a forum because I was second guessing myself so much. I find this all very hard. I know it probably sounds extremely pathetic.

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todaysdilemma · 08/10/2021 13:33

[quote Treacleshf]@Keepitonthedownlow he’s a quiet, hard working, polite man though. That’s what makes me wonder if it’s me.[/quote]
Erm so was Wayne Couzens! And Ted Bundy. Every human being who is a dick to their loved ones is not a rude, loud, unemployed bum...

These are not traits that determine whether someone is a good human being or not. How they treat YOU is the only thing that determines it.

I understand you worry if it's you, and maybe you do have some traits that need looking at. But not with him! Stop trying to make it work when every instinct in you is telling you to get out. Get therapy instead to unpick these things, don't experiment with this man in a relationship. That's dangerous because you are very vulnerable right now as you're constantly questioning yourself. That makes you a prime target for any manner of predator.

HollowTalk · 08/10/2021 13:34

It's really not you. We are all telling you that yet you still seem to be secondguessing yourself. You'll drive yourself mad that way. Why not conclude that you and he are too different - he's a nice guy (at times) but not for you.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 08/10/2021 13:34

Oh God, it's infuriating reading your responses to posters, you are determined to find excuses as to why it's you and not him.
It's Not You, it's him and you know it.

JudgementalCactus · 08/10/2021 13:36

@Treacleshf

Sorry to have frustrated posters. I’m struggling with this and have low self esteem. I’m in therapy for it and she suggested I post on a forum because I was second guessing myself so much. I find this all very hard. I know it probably sounds extremely pathetic.
It's ok, @Treacleshf. It took me 3 years to extract myself from a toxic relationship. We all know the struggle.

But at least the seed has been planted in your mind and you're starting to question him and look for outside perspective. You'll get there in your own time.

bigbaggyeyes · 08/10/2021 13:36

Take yourself off on your own to the beach and then have a good think about raising the bar with regards to men

Muchasgracias · 08/10/2021 13:37

[quote Treacleshf]@todaysdilemma thanks I think I’m just so confused that we have been so happy up until the point where I have said come on, please book a day because I really want to do this together. He sees it as a demand, pressure, control. Im only trying to organise something nice. I just don’t get it. If I’d kept quiet we’d be fine now[/quote]
Are you up for a lifetime of keeping quiet? If you start now, then he’ll use it against you in the future when you try and put your needs first. If anyone is controlling this relationship, it’s him. Imagine a lifetime tiptoeing around him, trying not to upset him and second guessing how he will react to you. That will break you, I promise. And it’s no environment to raise a family in.

Please don’t settle for this.

Zebracat · 08/10/2021 13:37

You don’t sound pathetic. You sound nice. You like your partner and want to do lovely stuff together. He wants to stew in his misery and be worried about stuff. He is projecting . He is controlling, you are not.
Please leave him , you deserve better.

notacooldad · 08/10/2021 13:40

Read your posts back to yourself objectively.
Would you want your best friend or someone that you love to be in a relationship like this.
I wouldn't.

Embroidery · 08/10/2021 13:40

Look up DARVO

KurtWilde · 08/10/2021 13:40

OP don't apologise, it took me 3 years to realise it really wasn't me it was him. You're not pathetic, you're just emotionally invested, it takes time to come to the realisation that you're not the problem.

onlymyselftoanswerto1 · 08/10/2021 13:43

Some people in life are radiators and make you feel content, warm and happy, others are drains and drain all the life out of you, leave you exhausted, questioning yourself and totally miserable. This one is the latter - I was with one for almost 2 years and he drained me to a shell of myself, sent my anxiety through the roof and made me so unhappy. Please do NOT settle, he will never make you happy. There are some really good ones out there and you will find one, but only if you you are free to do so - throw this one back- for your sanity if nothing else!

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:43

Thanks for the patience. I think on some level the idea that it’s me means I can fix it, whereas if it’s him then it’s doomed and he won’t do anything about it.

Maybe there’s an element of that going on.

My mum has a beach house around a 6 hour drive away. She said I could go to it this weekend. I desperately want to but I’m scared I will find the drive hard alone and will be alone with my thoughts, though equally I would love nothing more than to be at the beach and away from it all. I don’t really know what’s best. I might get there and feel very alone. There’s nobody available to go with me

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