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So confused am I to blame?

112 replies

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 12:29

I’m really struggling with my relationship. We’ve not been together that long, 18 months. We have a great time together and he’s great in many ways. When I was unwell in summer he went above and beyond to look after me. We laugh a lot and I honestly thought this was it after a few months. But he’s often quite miserable/stressed/unhappy and this has come out even more so recently, though I don’t know why.

  1. It’s maybe a small thing but at the start of the year I said I’d love to go away for a couple of nights together in the uk. He said he’d enjoy this but he wanted it to be end of summer so he could focus on work (his work is always most busy in summer). I was disappointed but left it at that and said let’s go in autumn. I’ve been away with friends, it’s not a big deal.
Anyway, fast forward to now and I mentioned again taking a Friday off work so we could travel a couple of hours to the beach and stay until Sunday afternoon. He’s almost turned on me, said I am controlling, I like things my way and only my way, and he doesn’t know when he can do this. I’ve been totally taken aback by it as he’s repeatedly told me he’d love to have a couple of nights away, we’ve even looked at places to stay and he knows I had provisionally booked it on line (free cancellation). He’s been quite nasty about it - I apparently like spending money and he doesn’t (I don’t particularly or any differently to anyone else, plus we both have money, both over 70k, so I can’t see that’s the issue, this place was 143 for 2 nights!!). I’m apparently always wanting things my way… I booked the place with a pool that he liked so he could swim. I hadn’t even asked him for the money, not even considered it actually. I would probably have just paid. He says I like doing ‘lots of things’ and he doesn’t Confused we mostly stay in and I’m happy with that, I like being at home. He also has masses of holiday to take, his colleagues have been off intermittently throughout the year. It doesn’t make sense to me.
  1. He can become consumed by worries, and at the weekend he moped around saying he was missing his dad and sibling and he was worrying about them (both have quite bad depression but function day to day). I spent two hours talking it over with him. He never seems to recognise that I do these things and will just sit and stare for what seems like hours, looking angry/upset. I will try and encourage him to be positive and see his family and book time off to do it and he just becomes defensive saying he knows he needs to do that but it’s a big task for him to look into it Hmm
  1. Whenever I’ve tried to talk calmly with him he just withdraws and doesn’t say much other than I’m attacking him. I can literally say i love you and can we talk about x and he will just automatically frown and withdraw and look annoyed. I feel like I can’t mention anything with a view to moving forwards, in fact last time I raised anything he said I wanted to get the moral high ground?!
  1. In the early days I turned up on time and he said oh I didn’t expect you to actually get here for now, I’m still doing stuff, and asked me to sit in the lounge while he was upstairs.

I’m just so exhausted. I met him through a friend of a friend and this friend warned me his last relationship ended age 22 and he’s now 39. She said steer clear and I wish I had. I struggle to deal with the misery and negativity. I just don’t understand it.

I’ve messaged him today saying would he like to go for a drink to unwind when he’s back or alternatively I could get some nice wine in and we could stay home. He’s not replied but I expect he will just say he’d rather stay in and will be quite abrupt about it.

I was on the cusp of ending it but maybe he’s right I’m controlling and it’s my issue and I need to relax? There’s this horrible doubt in my mind now about whether I’ve behaved awfully like he’s suggesting. I’m so confused.

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scooterbear · 08/10/2021 13:00

It's definitely not you it's him. My ex boyfriend was very like this. And so set in his ways. I sitnglty suspected he had autism (and so did his mum) but he wouldn't even discuss it without BFF erring annoyed (as was his right obvs-if he didn't want to be diagnosed that's fine). It was hard work, a bit dull and depressing to live with in my case despite him having some good qualities-so I ended it

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:01

I said I was happy doing things with friends (I am), but also tried to explain that it’s nice for us in the relationship to have some down time and to spend a bit of time together somewhere different, even if not too far. Just a change of scenery.

He just launches into me saying we clearly have different expectations as he doesn’t feel the need to ‘go on trips all the time.’ It’s just so out of the blue and inaccurate. I don’t want to go on trips all the time. I just wanted a two night stay with him this year and he’s made me feel controlling and selfish and in his words ‘I have to have everything my way.’

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scooterbear · 08/10/2021 13:03

You were trying to orbs Fidel something nice. How can anyone possibly get angry about that? You sound lovely. He sounds at best a misery guts and at worst very unpleasant tbh.

Wiglio · 08/10/2021 13:04

@Treacleshf please stop making excuses for this guy.
This won’t change and you were asking for something reasonable

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:05

@scooterbear maybe I was intense about it. I can get excited about things like that and maybe I made it stressful or seem like an obligation. I don’t know really. I did say a lot that I didn’t mind when or even where it was and if he wanted to sort the dates first that worked for him then I would sort it my end afterwards. I was being quite official about it I guess, trying to organise it etc. Maybe it was too much.

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WatieKatie · 08/10/2021 13:06

Run like the wind. You’ll have a lifetime of misery with him.

todaysdilemma · 08/10/2021 13:06

@Treacleshf

I said I was happy doing things with friends (I am), but also tried to explain that it’s nice for us in the relationship to have some down time and to spend a bit of time together somewhere different, even if not too far. Just a change of scenery.

He just launches into me saying we clearly have different expectations as he doesn’t feel the need to ‘go on trips all the time.’ It’s just so out of the blue and inaccurate. I don’t want to go on trips all the time. I just wanted a two night stay with him this year and he’s made me feel controlling and selfish and in his words ‘I have to have everything my way.’

And you don't find this an insane reaction?

You really think you should have to justify going away on holiday with someone? He's waited 18 months to tell you he doesn't like going away, he doesn't like doing anything. That's why you were 'happy'. Because he lied to you about what he likes doing. Made you think you were both on the same page.

If on the first date he's been honest and said, "I don't like going away, spending money, doing things outside the home, mope and get moody a lot and will take it out on you, and if you challenge me I will turn nasty on you", would you have gone out with him again? Given him 18 months?

However, now that he's realised the time has come to deliver on what he agreed to, he's angry and defensive because he knows he's been caught out. So rather than being apologetic about leading you on, he's blaming you in the hope you'll give up all your needs/wants/hopes and become exactly like him. That OP, is control.

Penhaligon · 08/10/2021 13:07

It sounds like he's trying to condition you from questioning him through his negative behaviour. You've already said you avoid raising things due to his response so it's working.
This won't get better. This is how he is.
I couldn't be with someone so negative- it would drain me.
He's one of those people who doesn't want solutions found and will always have a reason for why that idea won't work.

Rainbowqueeen · 08/10/2021 13:09

He is projecting. He is the controlling one. He wants everything his own way and he is trying to manipulate you by making you feel bad about yourself so that the status quo can continue.

Just end it. You are miserable. That says it all. Don’t waste your time trying to get closure or understand why he is that way. Just move on with your life

notacooldad · 08/10/2021 13:09

The relationship is not making you happy.
You are dking all this hand wringing whining about 'is it my fault'
Is he going out if his way to make you happy?
Scratch that. What is he doing to make you happy? To make you feel special?
From what you are saying fuck all!
What's the point.
Why be with some that get angry with you.
Why be with someone when you wish you listened to someone's advise and stayed clear.
You are fully functioning adult and make life choices
By carrying on making excuses for him you are actively continuing to make yourself un happy.
If that's what you want - deal with it.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/10/2021 13:09

Have you posted about this guy recently under a different name? I recognise some of the details.

Regardless, it doesn't even matter who is at fault when a relationship is this hard work and this unhappy.

You don't need to have an official 'goodie' and 'baddie' to break up... the relationship is just not working. That's reason enough.

This is clearly a joyless slog of trying to drag someone into happiness and them resenting you for doing so. How miserable and exhausting is that?!

Just end it. And then seek some counselling to explore why you've stayed in a toxic and unhappy situation for so long.

StormBaby · 08/10/2021 13:09

He’s teaching you to be quiet, to not ask questions, and put up with his grumpy behaviour.

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:12

@Penhaligon and @todaysdilemma

Thanks. I’m just sad because we had such a laugh together when he’s been happier.

One time we had an argument, a bad one, and we made up (I made all the effort to get to that point), we went out for some lunch and had a nice chat, I thought things were fine. I mentioned my parents and that theyd suggested having a meal with us the following weekend and he just frowned and said he didn’t know how he felt about that now after the argument and he wanted time to think. It was all really confusing. Everything felt like a struggle.

The fact is though, I’m yet to find a long term successful relationship so I can’t rule out that I’m not the problem

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DressBitch · 08/10/2021 13:13

So, you want to go away and he doesn't.

And now you're not going away, yet you're controlling and always like things your way, but actually you're doing exactly what he wants, not what you want?

Have I got this right?

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:13

@Rainbowqueeen that is a big factor for me, if I leave I will be chasing closure and I’m scared about all that. I will analyse and cut myself up about it, I will question it and blame myself. I know that’s what is coming.

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PickAChew · 08/10/2021 13:13

You need to throw him back in the sea. It's not you.

girlmom21 · 08/10/2021 13:14

he just frowned and said he didn’t know how he felt about that now after the argument and he wanted time to think.

He likes to play his mind games doesn't he?

LittleBirdBlu · 08/10/2021 13:14

Have you posted about this already? I too recognise the details.

It's not you it's him, and he isn't going to change. He is set in his ways and you will not get your needs met with him.

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:14

@DressBitch he’s saying the fact I want those things exactly how I want them is controlling. I’ve decided I want this and so I have to have it, that sort of thing. I wanted it to be nice for him first and foremost.

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Keepitonthedownlow · 08/10/2021 13:14

Red flag central, he's awful and he'll only get worse. Reminds me of my ex.

HaggisBurger · 08/10/2021 13:15

@Treacleshf you’re not really reading the replies or absorbing them are you? Stop second guessing yourself. It’s not normal to not want to go away with your partner. You were asking him to do something NICE not have a wisdom tooth extracted. So you shouldn’t have been less excited / intense or whatever. His reaction to it is more than odd.
And don’t say everything was gone up til now. It clearly wasn’t. You’d already been compromising and accommodating him. He is a misery guts with some big issues. That will only get worse in his 40s and 50s. Cut your losses. You aren’t controlling. You want to spend time with him and do nice stuff. One mini break in 18 months is not going away all the time, clearly.

Treacleshf · 08/10/2021 13:15

@Keepitonthedownlow he’s a quiet, hard working, polite man though. That’s what makes me wonder if it’s me.

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HaggisBurger · 08/10/2021 13:15
  • fine not gone
theleafandnotthetree · 08/10/2021 13:17

Christ I feel miserable just reading your posts. I promise it is not meant to be this hard work and I wouldn't have lasted nearly so long as you have.

DressBitch · 08/10/2021 13:17

It's not remotely controlling to want to share experiences with someone.

He's really done a number on you, hasn't he?