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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Whydidimarryhim · 07/10/2021 16:35

Are you running yet OP - keep on!!!

Whydidimarryhim · 07/10/2021 16:36

He’s only in it for what he can get.
Please remove him from your life.

INeedToBuyaZoo · 07/10/2021 16:36

I've said you are being unreasonable.

Because...you are being unreasonable in making excuses and staying with this man.

He's stolen from you, he has lied to you and he is a downright narcissist.

Get out please

FreshFreesias · 07/10/2021 16:37

Run 🏃‍♀️ !

PizzaCrust · 07/10/2021 16:37

Agree with everyone. I don’t even need to read more than the first page of responses- I know that no one will be telling you to stay with him.

Leave and never look back. He’ll bleed you dry.

PennyPooBags · 07/10/2021 16:37

Run for the hills…,,,,

When I in my mid 20s and single I bumped into someone I had known as a student and the very first question he asked me was where was I working and how much did I earn. I told him a ball park figure and he immediately bragged that he earned far more than me, and a company car and was a higher rate tax payer.

We had a short relationship but I realised that I was always first to pay for drinks at the bar, order film tickets, pay cash for my share of a meal etc., while he bragged he could claim back meals on expenses (he asked for a hand written receipt that said lunch for 2) and pocketed change meant as a tip from me. He had a pad of blank receipts asked me to write fake receipts for him which I refused.

He then became obsessed by us buying a house together “to make money” when I let slip I was saving for a deposit. (In fact if we had gone ahead we would have lost money as it was just before the late 80s financial crash). He already owned a house he just wanted a much bigger one.

I knew deep down he was a bad-un, with a fair few red flags about money and control but I didn’t end it until he tried to rape me.

Drinkingallthewine · 07/10/2021 16:38

Oh and I really hate to say this but, the whole undressing you and looking at you is a power thing. He stays clothed?
He gets a kick out of seeing you naked and vulnerable all the while deliberately withholding his interest in you to make you feel off kilter and doubting his attraction to you, which in turn is supposed to make you feel more desperate to have sex with him to 'cement' the relationship. It might even be a form of negging.

Either way, any one of those things you listed are dump-worthy. All together they are just appalling.

And don't feel bad, many of us have landed our long time crush only to find out that they seriously were not all that - me included.

SleepingBunnies21 · 07/10/2021 16:38

but he can’t perform in bed because he says he took his marriage vows so seriously that it feels wrong to have ‘full sex’ with another woman yet

So he's an impotent, sexually dysfunctional, not financially solvent, avaristic user who has drink problems.

And his marriage failed for reasons which, while he blames his ex and plays the victim, are likely to be a lot more tk do with him.

Butternutsqoosh · 07/10/2021 16:38

Run, and run fast!

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 16:38

Throw this one back. You know deep down he's not okay.

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 16:39

I suppose I will have to talk to my parents about it and get them onside. I’m a very private person and the thought of that conversation is strangely really difficult, but I don’t want to be worrying about them having to deal with him. His parents live very near mine, while my home is an hour’s drive away. I feel like a massive idiot, but I’m just going to have to deal with it and brazen it out if he starts badmouthing me. I feel like he’s going to turn it around on me and accuse me of stringing him along for telling him I loved him and effectively changing my mind so quickly. I really meant it at the time though - I was just so in awe of him.

He’s taken various photos of me that I feel sick to my stomach thinking about him having. I did various things I wouldn’t ever usually do because he hinted it might help him get over his sexual ‘block’. I’m usually so sensible and know exactly what I’d tell a friend to do (or not!) in this situation but I still managed to do everything wrong myself.

I feel ok and fairly confident about dumping him but terrified by the idea of blocking him. I think I’d like to be aware of what he’s up to even if I don’t respond to any of it. The Grey Rock technique might have some potential here.

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lilmishap · 07/10/2021 16:40

he would definitely paint himself as a victim, and probably lie about me to others

Better then you being his actual victim while he lies to you and about you.

Honestly I doubt anyone will believe a word this shitmeister says about you. If they do then they are not people who should be in your world so it's better they identify themselves to make cutting them out easier

arootintootingoodtime · 07/10/2021 16:40

Jeepers, what a cocklodging fekker!

Start telling your friends and family about what he's really like to enlist their support if he's difficult.

It sounds like you built this guy up in your head and he is really nothing like the fantasy you have imagined. Don't be embarrassed, this has happened to so many people. What matters is getting out of this asap.

DamnUserName21 · 07/10/2021 16:42

@SleepingBunnies21

but he can’t perform in bed because he says he took his marriage vows so seriously that it feels wrong to have ‘full sex’ with another woman yet

So he's an impotent, sexually dysfunctional, not financially solvent, avaristic user who has drink problems.

And his marriage failed for reasons which, while he blames his ex and plays the victim, are likely to be a lot more tk do with him.

This! Get the hell out and raise your bar.
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Bounce55 · 07/10/2021 16:42

@EveningOverRooftops

You can change the locks on your house.

You get a restraining order if needs be.

You can get a new mobile number.

You can talk to HR at work about making sure he can’t come in the building/call you/

He might not seem easy to break up with but you do have tools at your disposal if he becomes difficult

And absolutely tell your friends he’s behaving weirdly and giving you the creeps (the watching no shagging is creepy as fuck and not a lie) and you’re done.

Totally agree on the friends but Tell Them Everything
SleepingBunnies21 · 07/10/2021 16:43

And don't feel bad, many of us have landed our long time crush only to find out that they seriously were not all that - me included.

I got with my uni crush and he kissed like a goldfish on speed, told me he doesbtbdk relationships, or only night stands because one of his first girlfriends cheated on him when he was 16, and told me he's order a taxi for me, I had to go home- because his folks were coming back that that and he didn't have any condoms (I had have sex with perhaps two men and had not the slightest sliver of intention of having sex with him). He then kind of ordered me to phone him the next weekend, I didn't partly because I was disillusioned by the whole thing anc didn't want to have one night stands with him... I did phone a week pr two later abd he put the phone down on me, I assumed because I hadn't obeyed his order.

dangerrabbit · 07/10/2021 16:44

He's not the man for you and not worth your time. Dump by text and block from all platforms. If any mutual acquaintances take his side they're not worth worrying about either.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 16:44

You just have to take it as a lesson learned, OP. I suspect that if you are able to find a way to get him to dump you it would be easier - you don't want him taking revenge for his hurt pride/ego. He's definitely a narcissist - have a look at Dr Ramani's videos on youtube and see if you can find your best strategy for whatever happens. But definitely get away as soon and safely as possible.

Listen, you are not alone. These men are very, very good at manipulating women. You have been burned but at least you haven't married him or got pregnant - you can get away. There are laws about things like 'revenge porn' so don't hesitate to get the police involved if you're worried about that. Your family and friends who know and love you will be on your side - no one else matters.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 07/10/2021 16:48

I literally read the first para and thought "walk away fast and don't look back"

PizzaCrust · 07/10/2021 16:48

And for the record, I completely understand the feeling of someone you fancied/idolised now being interested in you. When I was single a number of years ago after getting out of long term relationships, I remember being on Tinder and the sheer glee I felt when guys who were several years above me in school (and back then, in my head, drop dead gorgeous) were trying to chat to me. Same with a guy who was in a local band and 14 year old me thought he was almost godly.

I then spoke to them and the glee quickly wore off. They were distinctly average and none of them even ended up in dates. They all said or did something that was off putting.

Sure, it was an ego boost. But none of them would have actually made a good partner.

This guy is an ego boost for you, but it’s now time to cut him loose and find someone who isn’t him. He isn’t good for you and as harsh as it sounds, he’s only focusing on your appearance and income.

Bounce55 · 07/10/2021 16:49

If you do decide to break up with him face to face take a friend or family member
Sounds like he could go off on one at the slightest thing

ShuddaBeenMe · 07/10/2021 16:50

Yes dump him. If he tries to do anything with the photos, go straight to the police.

Goldbar · 07/10/2021 16:50

I think you know what you need to do, it's just that you're apprehensive about actually doing it. Because you think he could get nasty. Definitely talk to your parents and get support from friends.

You will feel so relieved afterwards.

Sharing intimate images without consent is a criminal offence btw.

KirstenBlest · 07/10/2021 16:50

He’s taken various photos of me that I feel sick to my stomach thinking about him having. I did various things I wouldn’t ever usually do because he hinted it might help him get over his sexual ‘block’.
Bloody hell