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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

OP posts:
ShagMeRiggins · 08/10/2021 00:23

It’s good you’ve ended it. I’m sure it’s not the end of his attempts to contact you, and there might be some uncomfortable possibilities ahead, but staying firm with It’s Over works well.

goinggently · 08/10/2021 00:26

Can you get someone to come and stay with you for a while when you end it? Concerned for your safety

lilmishap · 08/10/2021 00:28

@Neverkins you sound so confident in your last posts compared to the start of this thread!

Job well done Smile

goinggently · 08/10/2021 00:30

I also wouldn't confront him about the money in the pub... you don't know how he'll react to accusations. Just take the knowledge and let the money go

goinggently · 08/10/2021 00:31

Sorry, I didn't RTFT. Well done for being brave OP

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 08/10/2021 00:41

Good for you OP . Change your passwords and order a new bank card ( in case he's photographed it and keep an eye on your accounts/amazon etc.Its good that you've told your parents and your friend.

superplumb · 08/10/2021 00:45

No no no. Get rid now. Hes a loser who sounds unhinged.

Stompythedinosaur · 08/10/2021 00:51

Well done op, I think you have made the right call.

Snugglybuggly · 08/10/2021 00:53

Massive red flags

Mamanyt · 08/10/2021 01:01

There are so many red flags here that I've lost count.

You say you are "in love" with this man. Given all of this, why? What do you love about him? Can't be kindness and understanding. Apparently has no sense of humor. And believe me, good sex goes down the tubes sooner or later.

3luckystars · 08/10/2021 01:03

Best £27 you ever spent! It saved you years of hassle with this man.

Well done x

Saoirse82 · 08/10/2021 01:10

Even one of those things would be a huge red flag, but all together I'd be like a bat out of hell. Please leave him OP, no good will come of this relationship and I think you know this deep down.

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 01:14

The OP has ended it. You will see that if you select 'see all' at the end of her posts.

mycatisannoying · 08/10/2021 01:21

Oh, come on OP.
RUN.

Justilou1 · 08/10/2021 01:43

Please consider doing the Freedom Programme as soon as you’re up to it. You need to understand why you’re a magnet for these guys so you don’t make the same mistakes.

milkyaqua · 08/10/2021 01:43

Oh, boy, OP. Well done for getting out sooner rather than later. Do not let this fucker woo you back or wear you down. He will burn you to a crisp.

QueenBee52 · 08/10/2021 01:43

@mycatisannoying

Oh, come on OP. RUN.

OP has ended it

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 02:01

@Justilou1, the OP isn't a 'magnet' for this kind of creep. She has explained that she has been in healthy relationships before and knows what they look like. She has a backstory with this particular man.
People do love to inject drama in to threads even when it's clearly not necessary.

UniversalAunt · 08/10/2021 02:27

Ach, a parade of red flags & a big brass band playing ‘Get out now!’.

Change all the passwords on your bank & credit cards.

Tenohfour · 08/10/2021 02:49

You know what you expect to hear from us. Listen to that gut feeling that is screaming at you that this is not right and has the potential to go very wrong.

doubleshotcappuccino · 08/10/2021 02:56

You sound like a bright hard working young woman .. like so many posts like this I struggle to understand why this situation is even a question for you - why do so many amazing women have a blind spot in relationships ? This isn't gong to end well, from what you says he seems manipulative and a gas lighter - you will have totally withdraw communication or he will burrow his way back with a gaslighting narrative

Sunshinealligator · 08/10/2021 03:09

None of these are small red flags. He's a liar who has bent so many situations so he has uneven footing and has received what sounds like a lot more than is fair from you.

A few things that stick out here, for his funds to tend to go into savings and our as required (possible but fucking annoying!) For it to not be disastrous those funds need to move pretty much immediately from savings to personal account-but they tend to with the same account. It's something I often do, if I'm worried about ploughing through money, a bit of a Ball ache, but it doesn't make sense of why money isn't in his account to pay for things. This shows him to not have any idea what's in his account...bit of a wooly excuse to be fair.

The one thing I really, really want you to think of, is that he is living at home with his parents at 40 and his card is still being declined. This is without paying for the roof over his head, without electric, without water bills, council tax, home insurances. Many of the big bills in life, and he's still not got money to hand? This is a very big red flag I wish I hadn't have ignored when I met DH. I love the bones of that man, but he was in a similar position (at 25- not 40) but he continues to create situation after situation with his financial irresponsibility. Given that not only is he useless with finances by the sounds of it, he seems to be planning how to spend your income, "you'll buy the house to protect yourself legally" -bollocks. I'd be very very wary.

Another thing, he's lying about you. You've caught him doing it. These lies will not always be quite so irrelevant. Though he is setting his friend up for a bit of a disappointment.

Tbb I'd have a bit of fun with him. Sit down with him and say, let's see how much house we can afford. You earn 10k more than me. So I've calculated we could borrow £xxxxx do you have £xxxx in savings? Maybe we could get the ball rolling to buy a house? See a solicitor together to protect us both. See his reaction, take note of his feeble excuses.

Start not having money when he wants to do something. See his reaction.

Ask him what business ventures he's currently involved in with his business buddies... just act shocked.

I'd give him enough rope to hang himself with, let him sow all of his true colours before you walk away.

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 03:22

@sunshine, she has finished it. You can find the status of a discussion by clicking on the 'all posts' link at the end of the OP's posts.

Sunshinealligator · 08/10/2021 03:25

Sorry OP, I only read your first post, replied then read all of your posts.

What you've done is probably the safest option with someone like him.

Also, fairly certain that having naked photos of you whilst you sleep would be illegal? I'd be tempted to check with the police what their advice is in this situation. He sounds like a very fucked up person.

ChaToilLeam · 08/10/2021 03:30

I am so glad you have ended it. Do be prepared for him to be persistent, though, and nasty. He sounds the type.