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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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KatySun · 07/10/2021 20:05

What you have said is fine. The trick now is not to let him draw you into engaging with him about any part of it. You said sorry a couple of times - no need to say sorry again. You have slightly left the door open for him to say ‘well, why don’t we talk about your concerns now, at least give me a chance to sort whatever it is out’, so you will have to be firm there and not engage with that. You have said you want to be single and he should not contact you again - that is your rinse and repeat line. He should not contact you again.

Tallisimo · 07/10/2021 20:08

Don’t like the sound of him at all, not at all ….

SweeneyToddler · 07/10/2021 20:08

I mean this nicely, OP, but when I read your first post I asked myself “what has happened in this woman’s life that she thinks any of this is normal?”

Not sure if it’s something you’ve considered but would you look at a few sessions of therapy just to work through issues around esteem and reliance? Just so you’re equipped to deal with creeps like this.

Winniemarysarah · 07/10/2021 20:08

@beastlyslumber

Well done, OP. I think you should block his number on your phone so he can't text or call you. He will go all in on the love bombing and trying to make you doubt yourself.

Just remember, you've asked him not to contact you, so the moment he contacts you, he's showing exactly what he thinks about your boundaries and how much he respects you.

Blocking is best. But if you can't bring yourself to do that, DO NOT answer any calls or texts. Just don't give him anything more now. It will drive him crazy but now it's a battle of wills, yours against his. The moment you crack, and text him back, he's won. Hold out and he will realise there's no point wasting his energy, and you'll be free and clear.

Stay strong, OP Flowers

I wouldn’t block him just so you can have a clue of his intentions through his messages. I’d never reply to him again though. And I don’t imagine you’ll actually do this but I seriously think you should contact the police about the photos he has, they were taken without your permission and could potentially be used for revenge porn
pompomsgalore · 07/10/2021 20:09

I could barely get through your opening post. He's awful.

Toomuchtooyoung01 · 07/10/2021 20:10

He sounds absolutely awful. Seriously, get rid. You know it’s not right.

icelolly12 · 07/10/2021 20:10

Well done OP.

If he replies, you know you can post his responses on here for some analysis aka straight talking to see straight past the school girl crush for what he really is (cock lodging chancer). Hopefully the veil has now been lifted and no amount of sweet talking will work

SunshineCake1 · 07/10/2021 20:11

I'd report card as stolen and order another in case he knows the number.

DoubleTweenQueen · 07/10/2021 20:11

@Neverkins I think your text was really good - assertive in a thoughtful way. Never be too apologetic. Lots of dignity and expectation of privacy/respect for your decision :)

Hope he deals with it like a decent grown-up.

Still1nLove · 07/10/2021 20:12

Your text sounds perfect

DrGoogleSaysSo · 07/10/2021 20:12

You're right to follow your gut instinct. Good riddance. Flowers

ThesecondLEM · 07/10/2021 20:13

Good for you op

RosiePosieDozy · 07/10/2021 20:13

Well done for ending it. You've 100% done the right thing. He seems a really horrible person. If he turns up at your house or your parents' house, don't open the door and if he doesn't leave, call the police.

Gonnagetgoing · 07/10/2021 20:18

Well done 👏 stay strong and come back here for more advice if he starts getting unpleasant. What a relief for you!

Singalongsingsong · 07/10/2021 20:18

You know the answer. You’ve spelt it out clearly. He isn’t worth another moment of your time.

Royalbloo · 07/10/2021 20:18

Either tight, in debt or gambling. He's a narc and I would run!

QueenBee52 · 07/10/2021 20:19

Well done OP 🌸

gamerchick · 07/10/2021 20:21

Jolly good. Don't engage at all. Just keep repeating the same sentance until you block the twat.

Gonnagetgoing · 07/10/2021 20:22

Seen your post re telling your friend. Great idea and she will have your back. Take care. Plan something fun for yourself with friends.

Royalbloo · 07/10/2021 20:22

And, if someone scares you into thinking they may do something criminal if you dump them, then that's even more reason to do so. Let the authorities know you're worried and tell him when you dump him that you're worried about his future actions and you've flagged it to various people. He will go away more quietly the stronger you are. Just don't let him back!

DamnUserName21 · 07/10/2021 20:23

Well done, OP.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 20:23

I really really wouldn’t go into anywhere near that much details, the more detail OP gives the more he’s got to go back at her with, pulling holes in it and asking more questions etc.

Well, I think there's some value in giving a polite but impossible-to-refute reason (I think we rushed into it, we argue too much, I don't think we're well-matched) instead of just cutting off and blocking, which can prompt rage in a narcissist (if he is one). There's a lot to be said for behaving with dignity.

At the end of the day, he can't change the realities that
a) they rushed into a relationship without knowing each other
b) subsequently they've argued a fair bit
c) they're clearly at different places in their lives, and
d) nobody can tell someone else how to feel

As long as Neverkins keeps that in mind, he can argue as much as he likes but he can't make a crack in her decision. If it's not negotiable, it's not negotiable.

If he's rude, she just blocks him. If it goes on too long, she tells him, "Sorry, I'm just repeating myself because there's nothing else to say." And if she's civil but assertive to the end and he descends into insults by text, it's just evidence for her side if he tries to slate her to anyone else.

Mumto3thatsme · 07/10/2021 20:25

Oh god sounds like you’re dating my friends ex…run!

FeeLock · 07/10/2021 20:25

@Neverkins - UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername has hit the nail on the head. Don't try to understand him, leave. All good wishes. Flowers

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 07/10/2021 20:27

Well done OP. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. If you’d stayed with him you would be living in misery, much poorer and possibly in debt. He knew you used to fancy him so he saw you as a mark but you’re far too smart for that. Well done.

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