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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Nondescriptname · 07/10/2021 19:49

Shehasadiamondinthesky Try reading all the OP's posts.

icelolly12 · 07/10/2021 19:50

I used to be confused how he could go to so much effort to fake his job, illness, situation, lie to her, pretend he loved her etc etc. But it is less effort than getting qualifications and working hard up the career ladder in a full time job.. he was a charlatan, as is your man.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 19:54

The way to do it is "It's not you, it's me". I know many people will just say "Dump and block" but most of us don't feel okay with ourselves if we do that.

"Hi X, I've been doing a lot of thinking lately and I've come to the conclusion that our relationship isn't working for me. At the start, things progressed really quickly and we had some great times. Looking back, though, we've also had a number of arguments and I've realised that we didn't know each other well at all at the start and I feel I've rushed into it. I've realised that there are some basic ways in which we're not well-matched for the long-term. I'm sorry, I know this will be upsetting, but I've decided I don't want to take this any further. I hope you'll be happy in the future."

If he wants to discuss it, I would do so for your own peace of mind that you ended it with dignity, but only as long as he's kind and civil.

Be very firm that the issue is you are not feeling it and at the end of the day, he can't tell you how to feel, and you just need to keep repeating versions of that. Keep in mind that his behaviour doesn't match his grand declarations of love, and actually he knows that.

It's like a kind of emotional jiu jitsu, he comes at you with something and you just dodge out of the way.

"But you told me you loved me!" "Yes, I did say that, but I think I rushed into it. I've realised we're not well-matched."
"But why not?!" "We both know we've had a number of arguments. I'm not going to go over them individually but to be having so many so early shows me we're not well-matched."
"But I love you!" "I care about you too, but I've realised our relationship isn't right for me."

However as soon as he starts up with any criticism, insults etc, that's your cue to exit.

"X, that's a very unpleasant thing to say, and I'm afraid it validates my feelings that this isn't the right relationship for me. I realise you're upset but I'm not prepared to be insulted. I'm going to end this call now. Please don't call back again. I think we both need some space to process our own feelings."

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 19:54

I have sent a text and although it’s probably not blunt enough, it’s one I feel comfortable with.

‘Sorry I didn’t call you back, but I’ve been thinking a lot about everything and I don’t want us to be together anymore. I’m sorry if this seems like it’s come from nowhere - I’ve had a few concerns that I know I should have discussed with you at the time, but fundamentally it’s the right decision for me to be single at the moment. I don’t want to talk about it further so please don’t call or expect any replies’.

He will have had a couple of drinks already this evening so I’m not overly worried about him coming here tonight (I can deal with tomorrow tomorrow). I’m slightly worried about him doorstepping my parents if I ignore his calls or texts but maybe I’ll get lucky and he’ll just send me some abusive messages that I can delete and try to not be upset by 😖

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Flowiththego · 07/10/2021 19:55

I'm glad you've decided to get rid, OP. It's very telling that your mates don't like him. If he lies about you, no-one who matters will believe him.

SunshineCake1 · 07/10/2021 19:56

Monica - you know how I wanted to go out with Chip Matthews in high school?
Rachel - yes
Monica - well tonight I got to not only go out with Chip Matthews in high school but I got to dump Chip Matthews

Don't want to make light, and I've only read the OP so hope you have dumped this embarrassment for a man, but yes, dump and block. He wants to spend your money, have to provide for him and fly on your achievements.

chilling19 · 07/10/2021 19:56

Don't delete any texts - you may need them if thing escalate. Good luck.

Flowiththego · 07/10/2021 19:58

Just seen your update. Well done! Xx

mbosnz · 07/10/2021 19:58

Good on you!

And I'm sure your parents, with your heads up, if he doorstops them, will be more than capable of dealing with the little sod. They raised a strong independent woman, who saw the red flags early on, after all. . .

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 19:59

Great text, OP, very honest and straightforward.

Just remember that any rude, insulting or aggressive behaviour is just clear evidence of the rightness of your decision and actually not about you at all.

The behaviour you really need to watch out for is for him to be sorry, heartbroken, sending flowers or links to sad songs, cute memes, "missing you" "I know I fucked this up and I can't say how sorry I am". Behaving like a great guy done wrong, so that you'll doubt your decision.

Don't doubt your decision.

Applethrower · 07/10/2021 19:59

Well done, OP. Definitely do not delete any abusive texts he sends though. Hopefully after a few he does quit, but if he doesn't at least you've got them if you need to report him. Fingers crossed he accepts it like a man and respects your decision, but that doesn't seem likely so far

Wineandroses3 · 07/10/2021 19:59

@CheekyHobson

The way to do it is "It's not you, it's me". I know many people will just say "Dump and block" but most of us don't feel okay with ourselves if we do that.

"Hi X, I've been doing a lot of thinking lately and I've come to the conclusion that our relationship isn't working for me. At the start, things progressed really quickly and we had some great times. Looking back, though, we've also had a number of arguments and I've realised that we didn't know each other well at all at the start and I feel I've rushed into it. I've realised that there are some basic ways in which we're not well-matched for the long-term. I'm sorry, I know this will be upsetting, but I've decided I don't want to take this any further. I hope you'll be happy in the future."

If he wants to discuss it, I would do so for your own peace of mind that you ended it with dignity, but only as long as he's kind and civil.

Be very firm that the issue is you are not feeling it and at the end of the day, he can't tell you how to feel, and you just need to keep repeating versions of that. Keep in mind that his behaviour doesn't match his grand declarations of love, and actually he knows that.

It's like a kind of emotional jiu jitsu, he comes at you with something and you just dodge out of the way.

"But you told me you loved me!" "Yes, I did say that, but I think I rushed into it. I've realised we're not well-matched."
"But why not?!" "We both know we've had a number of arguments. I'm not going to go over them individually but to be having so many so early shows me we're not well-matched."
"But I love you!" "I care about you too, but I've realised our relationship isn't right for me."

However as soon as he starts up with any criticism, insults etc, that's your cue to exit.

"X, that's a very unpleasant thing to say, and I'm afraid it validates my feelings that this isn't the right relationship for me. I realise you're upset but I'm not prepared to be insulted. I'm going to end this call now. Please don't call back again. I think we both need some space to process our own feelings."

I appreciate everyone will hVe a different idea of what to text but I really really wouldn’t go into anywhere near that much details, the more detail OP gives the more he’s got to go back at her with, pulling holes in it and asking more questions etc. She needs to keep it clear and short, she doesn’t owe him an explanation after what he’s done, she needs to make it clear it’s not working for her, she doesn’t want to be in the relationship, it’s over. He needs to be under no illusions that there’s any chance she will take him back. Only other thing I would add is I once was dating a man a bit like this (although not quite as bad!) and I just couldn’t get rid in the end I told him I’d met someone else (a lie) thinking that way he will get the message, worse thing I could have done, he went absolutely off the scale, a very scary experience for me. So don’t do that, just stick to your guns I.e it’s not working for you, it’s over.
MalagaNights · 07/10/2021 20:00

That's a good text.
The ultra blunt suggested texts can just create more drama as they provoke mystery and confusion.

So a brief polite explanation is better. Then ignore.

Hope it's all not as bad as you fear.
You've handled it all really well and will be free now for a healthy relationship in the future.

Bounce55 · 07/10/2021 20:00

@Neverkins

I have sent a text and although it’s probably not blunt enough, it’s one I feel comfortable with.

‘Sorry I didn’t call you back, but I’ve been thinking a lot about everything and I don’t want us to be together anymore. I’m sorry if this seems like it’s come from nowhere - I’ve had a few concerns that I know I should have discussed with you at the time, but fundamentally it’s the right decision for me to be single at the moment. I don’t want to talk about it further so please don’t call or expect any replies’.

He will have had a couple of drinks already this evening so I’m not overly worried about him coming here tonight (I can deal with tomorrow tomorrow). I’m slightly worried about him doorstepping my parents if I ignore his calls or texts but maybe I’ll get lucky and he’ll just send me some abusive messages that I can delete and try to not be upset by 😖

Well done Don't delete anything that he sends you
Feedingthebirds1 · 07/10/2021 20:00

I know it’s bad but there is a pathetic part of me that’s been in awe of this man for a very long time.

The thing is that because of the way you've contacted him before, he knows this. Which is why he was so confident that you'd put up with a lot of shit. I'm glad you've seen the light. But he's not going to like it, you've just closed the cashpoint. stay very, very strong and make sure that your BS radar is turned up to high. When he wants you to give him a reason why you've changed your mind, don't give him anything because he'll twist anything you say back on to you. And DON'T believe him when he says tell him why and he'll change.

Good luck in getting rid of the blood sucker.

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 20:00

@CheekyHobson

The way to do it is "It's not you, it's me". I know many people will just say "Dump and block" but most of us don't feel okay with ourselves if we do that.

"Hi X, I've been doing a lot of thinking lately and I've come to the conclusion that our relationship isn't working for me. At the start, things progressed really quickly and we had some great times. Looking back, though, we've also had a number of arguments and I've realised that we didn't know each other well at all at the start and I feel I've rushed into it. I've realised that there are some basic ways in which we're not well-matched for the long-term. I'm sorry, I know this will be upsetting, but I've decided I don't want to take this any further. I hope you'll be happy in the future."

If he wants to discuss it, I would do so for your own peace of mind that you ended it with dignity, but only as long as he's kind and civil.

Be very firm that the issue is you are not feeling it and at the end of the day, he can't tell you how to feel, and you just need to keep repeating versions of that. Keep in mind that his behaviour doesn't match his grand declarations of love, and actually he knows that.

It's like a kind of emotional jiu jitsu, he comes at you with something and you just dodge out of the way.

"But you told me you loved me!" "Yes, I did say that, but I think I rushed into it. I've realised we're not well-matched."
"But why not?!" "We both know we've had a number of arguments. I'm not going to go over them individually but to be having so many so early shows me we're not well-matched."
"But I love you!" "I care about you too, but I've realised our relationship isn't right for me."

However as soon as he starts up with any criticism, insults etc, that's your cue to exit.

"X, that's a very unpleasant thing to say, and I'm afraid it validates my feelings that this isn't the right relationship for me. I realise you're upset but I'm not prepared to be insulted. I'm going to end this call now. Please don't call back again. I think we both need some space to process our own feelings."

Thank you for this. I only wish I had read it before I sent my message 😊

He hasn’t read it yet, which is unlike him.

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MalagaNights · 07/10/2021 20:02

I meant the text you sent is good.

Polite with a brief explanation.

Wineandroses3 · 07/10/2021 20:02

Just read your update , well done. X

Theblacksheepandme · 07/10/2021 20:02

Well done OP, you now need to take time for you. Spend time with the people that really care about you. Please don't feel bad or ashamed by any of this as this is not your fault.

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 20:02

@Neverkins

I have sent a text and although it’s probably not blunt enough, it’s one I feel comfortable with.

‘Sorry I didn’t call you back, but I’ve been thinking a lot about everything and I don’t want us to be together anymore. I’m sorry if this seems like it’s come from nowhere - I’ve had a few concerns that I know I should have discussed with you at the time, but fundamentally it’s the right decision for me to be single at the moment. I don’t want to talk about it further so please don’t call or expect any replies’.

He will have had a couple of drinks already this evening so I’m not overly worried about him coming here tonight (I can deal with tomorrow tomorrow). I’m slightly worried about him doorstepping my parents if I ignore his calls or texts but maybe I’ll get lucky and he’ll just send me some abusive messages that I can delete and try to not be upset by 😖

You don't owe him reading them. You don't owe him reading anything he sends.

It's over and you need to switch to break up mode, no contact is the kindest thing you can do for yourself. Delete before reading or block him for 72 hours, then you can decide if you unblock him or not.

You're looking after yourself now.

HappyDays101010 · 07/10/2021 20:03

I think your text was good.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 20:03

Well done, OP. I think you should block his number on your phone so he can't text or call you. He will go all in on the love bombing and trying to make you doubt yourself.

Just remember, you've asked him not to contact you, so the moment he contacts you, he's showing exactly what he thinks about your boundaries and how much he respects you.

Blocking is best. But if you can't bring yourself to do that, DO NOT answer any calls or texts. Just don't give him anything more now. It will drive him crazy but now it's a battle of wills, yours against his. The moment you crack, and text him back, he's won. Hold out and he will realise there's no point wasting his energy, and you'll be free and clear.

Stay strong, OP Flowers

Cosyblankets · 07/10/2021 20:03

Well done

Embracelife · 07/10/2021 20:05

If he turns up.
Call 999

Lougle · 07/10/2021 20:05

Well done you! He only has the power you give him. You are worth so much more than this.