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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Blossomtoes · 07/10/2021 18:41

@Sparklybanana

Can you take a compromising photo of him so if he does try anything with the photos then at least you've got some bargaining power you?
Don’t even think of doing this. Sinking to his level is a dreadful idea.
CandidaAlbicans2 · 07/10/2021 18:41

Wow! I've been on MN for many years and this is one of the very few threads that has made my stomach turn over and given me that prickly anxious feeling. As others have said, there are so many red flags, and he sounds worse with every new post you make. So glad you've posted and plan to leave him. We can support you through that x

blushmint · 07/10/2021 18:42

He knew you fancied him, found out you had a good job, mortgage, savings and has been using you.

Most men actually would shag anything the fact he's not even having sex with you is quite telling, not saying that you are not attractive, I have no doubt you are and worth x292929:8 more than this price of shit but he is not even using you for sex.

It's money money money.

Dump him by phone call. If he tried to harass you, ignore him, report him.

Honestly don't listen to none of his bullshit

Sparklybanana · 07/10/2021 18:42

And then say that you've got some investments that have gone wrong and all of your money is gone and that you've been given notice of redundancy? He needs to chuck you so 1. You know for sure he's a dick and will be over him and 2. He won't use those photos against you.

ChargingBuck · 07/10/2021 18:43

@Sparklybanana

Can you take a compromising photo of him so if he does try anything with the photos then at least you've got some bargaining power you?
FFS.

Why are you advising OP to be alone & naked with this man again, when what she needs to do is distance herself asap?

And how is OP threatening him with a tit-for-tat illegal act going to help?

thelastgoldeneagle · 07/10/2021 18:43

You could threaten that you will go to the police about the sleeping photos. That might scare him.

What a disgusting specimen, op.

More red flags than a flag convention...

Good luck with your call tonight. And have a good chat to your friend. I'm sure she will be supportive.

midsomermurderess · 07/10/2021 18:43

I don't think tit for tat with revenge-porn threats is the way to go.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 18:44

Can you take a compromising photo of him so if he does try anything with the photos then at least you've got some bargaining power you?

Totally pointless, would only show that she's prepared to sink to his level of threat. You don't negotiate with terrorists, you call their bluff.

Deereamer · 07/10/2021 18:44

Exactly what @CheekyHobson said.

Tell him you’re done and move onto someone who deserves you. He’s a first class creep and he will make your life miserable if you stay with him x

MadeForThis · 07/10/2021 18:44

He sounds dangerous to be honest. He's intentionally pushing your boundaries and he has already stolen from you.

I would make it clear that he doesn't have permission to share any images of you and the police will be informed of he does.

Powertoyou · 07/10/2021 18:45

Read back what you have written and pretend it’s someone else. What would advise them to do? You know the answer, normal people do not act like this. Get rid as soon as you can.
You have worked hard for your money to let this loser take it from you. This is what he is after, never disclose what money you have to anyone.
Even his parents have taken the ex wife’s side.

Sparklybanana · 07/10/2021 18:45

I don't mean it to sink to his level - once a photo is on the Internet it stays there forever. If you have leverage then he'll think twice about doing anything nasty. If he's not having sex with you but still taking photos I'd be really concerned with what his motivation is.

ChargingBuck · 07/10/2021 18:45

Great update OP, well done.

Stick close with your pals for the next few days, & protect yourself against any Hoovering attempts - outofthefog.website/top-100-trait-blog/2015/11/4/hoovering

Sarahlou63 · 07/10/2021 18:46

@ZenNudist

Urrrgh thanks goodness you've come to your senses after only 3 months. I wish you could find a way to ditch him that meant he didn't feel rejected and you could get him to ditch you.

Perhaps be really busy with work, not have any money for dates, and have an illness that means you can't have sex.

This is good advice. Do everything you can think of to be unavailable, distant, disinterested, bored and cold. Busy with work, busy with family, friends, hobbies. Then tell him it's really not fair on him and he deserves someone so much better than you...

Agree with the other poster - change all passwords and locks now; don't wait until you've dumped him.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 18:46

I’m going to have a small glass of wine, send him a text, then give one of my best friends a call and let her know the whole sorry truth.

Excellent choice. In fact, perhaps invite a friend over for the evening before you send the text, as then he won't be able to show up at your house and cause a scene without embarrassing himself.

I'm sorry this one turned out to be a dud, although it's a very valuable learning experience, so you'll be forearmed in future. You sound lovely, so I'm sure there is someone out there who will genuinely appreciate you.

Ilady · 07/10/2021 18:47

From every thing you said about this man he is a wrong one. Who asks someone they are with a short period of time what they earn and try's to find out what assets they have?
As time has gone by he shown what he is really like. You noticed the red flags and asked us here for advice. Sometimes you find out that certain people are not all that they seem and their actions tell you this.
At this stage you need to end things with him. Tell your parents that he not the man you thought he was and you ended things with him. If he turns up their shouting or causing trouble they can ring the police.
You said you live in a place with a low cost of living and yet at 40 years of age he does not own a house.
My feeling is that he not on a great wage, is in debit and possibly paying child maintenance.
No wonder he wanted to get involved with you when you have a good job, income and your own home..
At least you realize what he is like and you can end things as quickly. You deserve better than him.

honeylulu · 07/10/2021 18:47

OMG, what have I read? He is horrendous. I only got as far as you saying he told you approvingly how slim you are now (as if you have only now earned the right to be with him) and I felt utter revulsion for him. Then it got worse ... and worse ... and worse.

PPs are right. He is using you for your money/lifestyle but resents you for earning well and being successful because how dare you, you are only a lowly woman. So you get punished with his temper, control and now thieving from you. I suspect you are right that his ex wife would tell a very different story. And I expect he does not have a better job/income and no crypto currency investments (let me guess, does he ever pay you back for the times his card gets "declined"?)

The sex stuff/photos is the truly awful icing on the cake. A cocklodger who can't/won't even give you any cock! Before reading about the photos I thought he is either impotent or really doesn't fancy you (just your cash) but then the photos ... it seems like a horrific method of controlling you by humiliation and fear. He expects it will keep you hanging on, desperate to win the prize of full sex and/or if you think about walking, he has the photos to threaten revenge porn.

I really hope you do get rid of him. I can tell how uncomfortable you are about that because of the nasty conniving person he is (I would be too) but honestly OP, the longer you leave it, the worse he will get. You sound fabulous and you deserve so much better.

The crushes and love we have when we are teens is so intense and strong, even in the memory of it years later, so I can fully understand how you got into this. But now you know the image you had of him was hiding an awful truth, and you really need to run away fast.

Howshouldibehave · 07/10/2021 18:47

@Neverkins

I’m going to have a small glass of wine, send him a text, then give one of my best friends a call and let her know the whole sorry truth.
Thank goodness!

Every word you wrote made him out to be a twat just after your money!

ChargingBuck · 07/10/2021 18:48

If you have leverage then he'll think twice about doing anything nasty.

Or he'll go even madder, & nastier.

Honestly it's not worth playing mindgames with losers like this. Stop promoting this daft idea - all it will do is increase his engagement with OP.

Gonnagetgoing · 07/10/2021 18:48

@CheekyHobson

He will be very shocked if I do it with no warning.

Ah, no he won't. He'll be angry his plan has fallen through and he'll pretend to be upset but given that you already know he's happy to...

  • take photos of you naked while you're sleeping
  • put one of those photos on his phone despite your voiced discomfort
  • yell at you for doing something nice
  • belittle your income
  • bombard you with calls when you want a night off
  • etc etc

...you must understand by now that he does not genuinely care about you at all? Him telling you he loved you? A lie to get his way. His story about his income? A lie to get his way. His poor-me victimhood story about his ex? A lie to get his way. If he says he's upset and shocked and can't believe you've broken up with him when he really felt he'd found 'the one', and he's so desperate he doesn't know what he's going to do? That will also be a lie to get his way.

If he threatens to send those pictures to anyone (or says something that implies he might), there is only one way to deal with it. Laugh, without showing a hint of fear or anger, like you can't quite believe he thinks you'd care if he did that, and say, "Are you suggesting you'll send those photos to people if I don't give you another chance? Don't be ridiculous. Firstly, I'm not embarrassed by my own body. And secondly, you don't have my permission to share those photos, so if I find out you have, you'll be talking to the police about it."

This guy sounds like a narcissist and a bully and literally the only way to deal with people like that is with a show of strength. They are inner weaklings who rely on smoke and mirrors. When you calmly stand up to them and show that they can't get to you, they lose interest fast.

Sorry to say this, but he is very likely to have another poor girl who had a crush on him years ago lined up as a backup plan. A swift and uncrackable show of strength is likely to have him running off to Plan C pretty fast.

I actually stupidly had an on off fling with a man for a number of months who was abusive and though we didn’t have full sex we shared texts/sexts etc. When it went wrong and we broke up (I thought fairly amicably though we did share a few nasty texts) he found out details of where I worked and emailed my bosses intimate details from texts. He got company details from the website. It sort of backfired as I was leaving there soon anyway but my bosses were very sympathetic and one colleague was really angry with him on my behalf and said he should never ever have contacted my work maliciously. I went to the police and he got a caution which I was satisfied with. This man looked so unhinged from what he’d done and other people couldn’t believe what he’d done.

So OP, don’t worry about his threats and if he does anything then just go straight to the police. It’s now a few years since this happened and I’m just pleased I’m away from this man who’s now moved abroad.

Zippyzoppy · 07/10/2021 18:48

@CloseYourEyesAndSee

Don't feel silly for getting your hopes up but equally open your eyes to who he really is. He's not a good guy. He's a financial disaster who has stolen from you and is planning to cocklodge from you without even providing any cock.
Perfect summation. Laughed out loud.
CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 18:49

I don't mean it to sink to his level - once a photo is on the Internet it stays there forever. If you have leverage then he'll think twice about doing anything nasty.

I think you're making the mistake of thinking he would give a shit if there was a naked photo of him on the internet.

Gonnagetgoing · 07/10/2021 18:50

@ChargingBuck

If you have leverage then he'll think twice about doing anything nasty.

Or he'll go even madder, & nastier.

Honestly it's not worth playing mindgames with losers like this. Stop promoting this daft idea - all it will do is increase his engagement with OP.

Agreed mindgames are the worst possible idea, I sort of got into this with the man detailed in previous post and it just infuriates, maddens them and adds flames to the fire. Best to ignore them and really wish I’d done this though i got off fairly lightly.
Applethrower · 07/10/2021 18:51

Wow. He sounds like the worst of the worst. He has even told you that he has a dossier against someone who wronged him. That was a message to you, that he will do the same to you.
The sooner you are rid, the better. It might be hard going for a while afterwards, but at least you'll be out.
Its good that you know the mutual friends between him and his ex are on her side, that shows that people can and do see him for who he truly is.

Stay strong, OP!

UltimateBugKilla · 07/10/2021 18:51

I dont think I can add anything else, but you sound lovely and definitely deserve so much better than this, book a girls weekend away with your besties and have a great time xx