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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Mumontour85 · 07/10/2021 18:19

So... you know exactly what you need to do lovely, you need to take off your rose tinted specs and show him the door - the successful door that YOU worked and paid for!
You have no reason to feel indebted to this weirdo, or to feel beneath him in any way - he sounds like an absolute fucking nutter with his life in pieces at 40, you sound like a winner that has done well in life and deserves the earth, and no one needs this level of crazy...

You don't owe anyone an explanation as to why you're ending things, but you'd only have to mention 1 of your options for people to understand!
Because he stole from me.
Because he violated me taking naked pics when I was asleep.
Because he is mean and controlling with anger issues.
Because he is using me for my money.
or just -
BECAUSE HE IS A FUCKING NUTCASE.

Good luck, be strong!

saleorbouy · 07/10/2021 18:21

He sounds more interested in money, your salary and your savings. If I were you I'd not progress this relationship and find someone more into you and not £££!

DrunkUnicorn · 07/10/2021 18:21

My creepometer hit max not even halfway through your post. Get out and get out quick. And make sure he doesn't have access to your financial or other personal information any more!

jellybean88 · 07/10/2021 18:21

Run for the hills, sounds like he doesn't have money and is interested in you because you do and can provide better.

I wonder if he got cash back on your card that evening. Honestly I wouldnt trust him

Budapestdreams · 07/10/2021 18:23

Well done OP on realising what sort of person he is so soon.
I know it's scary but you will get through this. Good luck, we're all here to support you 💐

Doggydoodah123 · 07/10/2021 18:24

Every inch of me is screaming get rid of this loser! X

MimiDaisy11 · 07/10/2021 18:25

Good luck getting rid of him! You painted quite a picture. He sounds dreadful.

Stay strong!

LowlandLucky · 07/10/2021 18:25

See them there hills, head for them

fumfspos · 07/10/2021 18:28

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home

Classic hobosexual behaviour - no man falls in love faster than one in need of somewhere to live.

Get rid.
I won't comment on all the rest of the stuff as hobosexuality alone is reason enough to bin him immediately.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 18:30

He will be very shocked if I do it with no warning.

Ah, no he won't. He'll be angry his plan has fallen through and he'll pretend to be upset but given that you already know he's happy to...

  • take photos of you naked while you're sleeping
  • put one of those photos on his phone despite your voiced discomfort
  • yell at you for doing something nice
  • belittle your income
  • bombard you with calls when you want a night off
  • etc etc

...you must understand by now that he does not genuinely care about you at all? Him telling you he loved you? A lie to get his way. His story about his income? A lie to get his way. His poor-me victimhood story about his ex? A lie to get his way. If he says he's upset and shocked and can't believe you've broken up with him when he really felt he'd found 'the one', and he's so desperate he doesn't know what he's going to do? That will also be a lie to get his way.

If he threatens to send those pictures to anyone (or says something that implies he might), there is only one way to deal with it. Laugh, without showing a hint of fear or anger, like you can't quite believe he thinks you'd care if he did that, and say, "Are you suggesting you'll send those photos to people if I don't give you another chance? Don't be ridiculous. Firstly, I'm not embarrassed by my own body. And secondly, you don't have my permission to share those photos, so if I find out you have, you'll be talking to the police about it."

This guy sounds like a narcissist and a bully and literally the only way to deal with people like that is with a show of strength. They are inner weaklings who rely on smoke and mirrors. When you calmly stand up to them and show that they can't get to you, they lose interest fast.

Sorry to say this, but he is very likely to have another poor girl who had a crush on him years ago lined up as a backup plan. A swift and uncrackable show of strength is likely to have him running off to Plan C pretty fast.

Blossomtoes · 07/10/2021 18:33

Such clear sighted, wise advice @CheekyHobson. I wish you were my friend.

Bounce55 · 07/10/2021 18:33

Let us know how it goes OP and how you are

QueenBee52 · 07/10/2021 18:35

OP I am so glad you can see this for what it is..

He's an abusive man looking for someone to financially support him.. fuck he doesn't even want to have sex with you instead having you 'perform' for him..

Do not give him any more room in your head .. your heart.. your life..

Please end this asap and safely 🌸

TheLeadbetterLife · 07/10/2021 18:36

Before you do anything else, cancel all of your bank and credit cards and order new ones. Change all your passwords. And get new locks put on your doors as soon as you've dumped him.

He sounds like a loon.

QueenBee52 · 07/10/2021 18:36

@CheekyHobson

He will be very shocked if I do it with no warning.

Ah, no he won't. He'll be angry his plan has fallen through and he'll pretend to be upset but given that you already know he's happy to...

  • take photos of you naked while you're sleeping
  • put one of those photos on his phone despite your voiced discomfort
  • yell at you for doing something nice
  • belittle your income
  • bombard you with calls when you want a night off
  • etc etc

...you must understand by now that he does not genuinely care about you at all? Him telling you he loved you? A lie to get his way. His story about his income? A lie to get his way. His poor-me victimhood story about his ex? A lie to get his way. If he says he's upset and shocked and can't believe you've broken up with him when he really felt he'd found 'the one', and he's so desperate he doesn't know what he's going to do? That will also be a lie to get his way.

If he threatens to send those pictures to anyone (or says something that implies he might), there is only one way to deal with it. Laugh, without showing a hint of fear or anger, like you can't quite believe he thinks you'd care if he did that, and say, "Are you suggesting you'll send those photos to people if I don't give you another chance? Don't be ridiculous. Firstly, I'm not embarrassed by my own body. And secondly, you don't have my permission to share those photos, so if I find out you have, you'll be talking to the police about it."

This guy sounds like a narcissist and a bully and literally the only way to deal with people like that is with a show of strength. They are inner weaklings who rely on smoke and mirrors. When you calmly stand up to them and show that they can't get to you, they lose interest fast.

Sorry to say this, but he is very likely to have another poor girl who had a crush on him years ago lined up as a backup plan. A swift and uncrackable show of strength is likely to have him running off to Plan C pretty fast.

spot on 🌸

user1471462428 · 07/10/2021 18:37

Please block him, this can’t be any good for your mental health. You don’t owe him any explanation for ending things. Also tell friends and family he has unnerved you and ask for their support. This man is creep. Take care.

mbosnz · 07/10/2021 18:38

You, my dear, are a smart, strong, independent capable woman.

He's a twat. Ditch him, hard and fast. Don't let him take up any more oxygen in your life, or space in your head.

Go find a man worthy of you - cos this nasty little wannabe conman sure as hell isn't!

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 18:38

@CheekyHobson

He will be very shocked if I do it with no warning.

Ah, no he won't. He'll be angry his plan has fallen through and he'll pretend to be upset but given that you already know he's happy to...

  • take photos of you naked while you're sleeping
  • put one of those photos on his phone despite your voiced discomfort
  • yell at you for doing something nice
  • belittle your income
  • bombard you with calls when you want a night off
  • etc etc

...you must understand by now that he does not genuinely care about you at all? Him telling you he loved you? A lie to get his way. His story about his income? A lie to get his way. His poor-me victimhood story about his ex? A lie to get his way. If he says he's upset and shocked and can't believe you've broken up with him when he really felt he'd found 'the one', and he's so desperate he doesn't know what he's going to do? That will also be a lie to get his way.

If he threatens to send those pictures to anyone (or says something that implies he might), there is only one way to deal with it. Laugh, without showing a hint of fear or anger, like you can't quite believe he thinks you'd care if he did that, and say, "Are you suggesting you'll send those photos to people if I don't give you another chance? Don't be ridiculous. Firstly, I'm not embarrassed by my own body. And secondly, you don't have my permission to share those photos, so if I find out you have, you'll be talking to the police about it."

This guy sounds like a narcissist and a bully and literally the only way to deal with people like that is with a show of strength. They are inner weaklings who rely on smoke and mirrors. When you calmly stand up to them and show that they can't get to you, they lose interest fast.

Sorry to say this, but he is very likely to have another poor girl who had a crush on him years ago lined up as a backup plan. A swift and uncrackable show of strength is likely to have him running off to Plan C pretty fast.

Thank you. I think you’re completely right about everything, unfortunately.
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thelastgoldeneagle · 07/10/2021 18:38

Omg. These are huge, major things.

He contacted you a few DAYS after his wife left him
Constant nosy questions about your money
Love-bombing
Stealing from you!!
Wanting you to buy him a house to live in
Cagey about his own money

He has cocklodger written all over him

Chuck this one back and run!

Then do the Freedom Programme .

ZenNudist · 07/10/2021 18:38

Urrrgh thanks goodness you've come to your senses after only 3 months. I wish you could find a way to ditch him that meant he didn't feel rejected and you could get him to ditch you.

Perhaps be really busy with work, not have any money for dates, and have an illness that means you can't have sex.

Sparklybanana · 07/10/2021 18:39

Can you take a compromising photo of him so if he does try anything with the photos then at least you've got some bargaining power you?

HebalGerbil · 07/10/2021 18:40

Flipping heck @Neverkins.

The more you elaborate, the worse he sounds.

He sounds so terrible, I am almost on the verge of advising you to dump all your technology and move to a cabin in the Alaskan wilderness.

Find the strength to dump him sooner rather than later. Don't let him get his hooks into you any deeper.

If he tries to use those pictures, go to the police because he took at least one, and I am betting more than one, without your permission.
It's no different than upskirting really, he is disgusting.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 18:40

Such clear sighted, wise advice @CheekyHobson. I wish you were my friend.

Thank you, sadly my knowledge of this kind of guy is earned through hard experience, so I would really like to help the OP avoid falling into a similar situation.

When you are a genuinely honest and trustworthy person, and you have spent your life dealing mainly with other genuinely honest and trustworthy people, the first time you encounter someone who is truly fucked up and manipulative, it's actually incredibly hard to recognise it for what it is.

Their way of thinking is so foreign to you that there's a level of disbelief that someone could behave in such a cynical or manipulative way, without conscience or apparent shame. But those people really do exist.

toothpicklover · 07/10/2021 18:41

The amount of red flags this Nan has is unbelievable. You need to address why your self-esteem is so low that you’d contemplate dating this man?!

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 18:41

I’m going to have a small glass of wine, send him a text, then give one of my best friends a call and let her know the whole sorry truth.

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