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He ate my cream scone and now my ring is off

116 replies

19Bears · 23/09/2021 12:29

Definitely not a euphemism. Christ. As if that would ever happen.

It might sound minor, or silly, or petty, but it might just be the final straw that I've been waiting for.

I've lost count of how many times I've posted threads or commented on other similar threads, so some of you might know the back story. I'm too tired to go through it all again, but the latest in a long line of pathetic incidents is that he hasn't spoken to me since last Monday. All I did was for once in my life express my feelings and said no to going to a concert, and also said no I didn't want him to come out with me when I run and that it's something I want to do on my own. He responded with, "so you want to do everything on your own, do you?!" Live the rest of your life on your own, do you??!" Imagine an irate Frank Spencer. I just shrugged as if to say, sounds good to me. Because it is actually better and nicer when it's just me and the kids.

Anyway, last night I went to the fridge and noticed the cream scone that my friend at work had bought me was gone. (It's scone!) And the plastic container was on the bench next to the sink. I knew exactly what had happened. So when he came in the kitchen I asked if he'd thrown it out, he pretended not to hear so I asked again, and he said, "No, I ate it."

I felt like laughing. In fact, I did a bit. It's not the first time he's taken something he knows I was saving for later, silly things like half a can of pop, and at times completely denying it as if the kids had taken it or something. It's clearly not the fact I have missed out on my scone, it's that he never thinks to ask. It's pretty basic. So I just went up to sort the kids for bed, and took my wedding ring and engagement ring off and left them on the bathroom shelf. It's never been a proper marriage for years (no sex, for one example) and I see the rings as a trap, not an expression of love. No doubt when he realises I'm not wearing them he'll kick off. But I think I need to be strong now and say this is not what I want from life. He knows it himself deep down, but he's content to rumble on as he knows how I'm the kind of person who never wants to rock the boat.

So, if you can, please please MN ladies, help me keep the rings off and move forward. I feel like I'm stuck in a whirling plug hole, never quite flowing away.

I hope that makes sense somehow xx

OP posts:
Brokeandtired3 · 24/09/2021 19:44

@TheFoundations you think just because these people are all from the same family they dealt with abuse the same?
No.
Regardless this is becoming off topic. OP just needs to take the plunge before her husband hurts her anymore. She has been on here long enough and endured enough, if not now then when

TheFoundations · 24/09/2021 19:53

@Brokeandtired3

Ah, yes, back to the topic of you reminding us how right you are. That's what's important.

If you think that watching a few relatives deal with a situation makes you qualified to advise on it... well, best of luck.

19Bears · 24/09/2021 19:57

Hello ladies, just a quick one as I am at my brother's and he's not well. I don't want anyone to fight over this, I know I can just do it, or I can take my time, I don't think either option is going to be easy. It will work out. I just want us all to get on and support each other xxx

OP posts:
TheFoundations · 24/09/2021 20:08

@19Bears

Sorry for the derail, OP.

You sound strong. As you say, it'll work out in the end, whichever option you choose.

ToCutALongStoryShort · 24/09/2021 20:13

@19Bears hope your brother is okay.

19Bears · 24/09/2021 20:35

I'm home now. This is possibly one of the reasons I find it hard to make the break. My brother has epilepsy and I look after him which means my phone can ring at any time and I go over to his house if the paramedics are there and need to leave him, or if he just needs a takeaway after a long day of on and off seizures which tonight was about. This means I need to leave the kids in the house, and DH is here which allows me to do it. If and when he isn't here, that's not so easy.
Anyway, just as I got home, DH was gathering his things to go to the gym, and I noticed he had the carrier bag I was collecting crisp packets in for recycling as they do now at the co-op. Thank god for this as we go through so many crisp packets in this house, I am overjoyed to have somewhere to recycle them! So, he took the bag for his gym gear, and all the crisp packets are in the bin.

Is this a joke or something??????!!! Confused

OP posts:
RandomMess · 24/09/2021 21:18

No he did it deliberately to piss you off and cause an argument so he could put you in your place.

How well do you get on with your DB? Could he spend more time at yours if you ditched your H?

Brokeandtired3 · 24/09/2021 22:31

@TheFoundations if it makes for you feel big, since you seem so qualified and entitled, I'll let you have the last say.

OP I hope you gather the strength to do what needs to be done to stop this constant cycle of abuse. It will only get better for you when your able to do that Flowers

billy1966 · 25/09/2021 00:00

OP,

He sounds like an absolute horror.
You poor woman and your poor children.

How could he have thrown the castle out.
Jesus, what a neglectful, selfish pig.

Anniegetyourgun · 25/09/2021 08:41

Someone touched on this earlier, but I think it wants emphasis: in the longer term legally you'll need to declare whatever you have in the sock as part of the divorce, which may not be a problem, but for now you need to make sure you have enough funds (as much as possible) under your sole control for any emergency expenditure while things are being sorted out. It's not about depriving the other party of assets he would be entitled to share - that is against the law and you wouldn't want to do it anyway. The fact that the party of the second part would likely be happy enough to do it to you is not the point. (Hopefully he wouldn't get away with it; this is what the document copying is about!)

As for the pensions: do not start from the position that you don't want them. Everything should be on the table for negotiation. All marital assets need to be counted in to ensure a fair split. (Fair doesn't necessarily mean 50-50, indeed when there are children in the mix it probably won't.) Pensions are worth a heck of a lot and are a valuable negotiating tool. At any time throughout the process you can decide to let something go, and that might be a sensible way forward at that time, but for goodness' sake don't let go before you even start.

ToCutALongStoryShort · 25/09/2021 08:49

So he has thrown something out again without consulting with you to undermine you again.
Does your brother have access to services such as an emergency wrist band that would alert someone if he fell? My dad had one when he developed a neurological illness. You say you look after him but it is a lot of responsibility and stress for you, do any other family help out.? Your children sound young, you have a lot on your plate and having to deal with a sulking husband as well.

deeplyambivalent · 25/09/2021 09:01

Just to reinforce what @Anniegetyourgun said: DO NOT overlook the pensions, OP. They can be deceptive but, for example, a defined benefit pension paying quite a small future amount can be surprisingly valuable in today's money.

ChargingBuck · 25/09/2021 09:17

[quote Brokeandtired3]@ChargingBuck I wouldn't usually have this approach but even the OP admitted that she has been on her plenty times before for the same reason... that being her husband.

So maybe it is time now to make that final push. She has done the legal side of things and been through enough crap by him. Any time longer spent in this situation is unnecessary and keeps her being vulnerable and susceptible to his crap.

I know what I'm talking about. I dont need to be a "professional" to know. I watched my mum leave an abusive relationship, two of my sisters and my self. Thanks.[/quote]
I am sorry about your own troubles, but you might want to contemplate how far you have come in understanding, when you use words like "admitted" in the context you have in your 1st sentence there.

It's not about being a professional, it's about doing a hell of a lot of work with professional sources, learning directly & reading extensively, as so many of us have had to.
The greater the understanding, the greater the empathy & compassion.

ChargingBuck · 25/09/2021 09:26

Sorry about your DB, it's all extra pressure when everything already falls to you at home, isn't it?

I'd be tempted to ignore CrispGate.
You know it'll be All Your Fault if you point it out Angry

Keep looking forward. You will know when the time is right, just allow yourself to visualise the calm & happy home atmosphere you can provide for you & DC, once you've jettisoned a sulky adult ...

beastlyslumber · 25/09/2021 11:48

I agree, ignore CrispGate. He's just looking for a reaction. Best for you to keep your head. If anyone's going to lose their shit, let it be him. Just stand back, smile, and say okay. Meanwhile, you're photocopying the pensions paperwork and everything else, finding a lawyer and getting yourself ready for the moment when you let him know you're done.

Sorry to hear about your brother's situation, too. There will definitely be a way to manage this but sounds like something you could use some support with.

Ijsbear · 27/09/2021 12:23

About getting upset about CrispGate.

Your husband is trying to get a rise of out of you. Trying to upset you and make things difficult.

I was wondering how he was with the children. Is there even remotely a chance he'll use them against you, in order to upset you? Fight for custody or be unkind to them or neglect them in order to punish you?

Because if there is, and from all you've said he's the vindictive sort who'll be dangerously offended that you're considering leaving, then it might be strategically wise to actually get upset about CrispGate. Let him see that he's getting to you about the small stuff, crisps and wedding rings, in order to make sure he overlooks the really big stuff here: your children's well being.

Distraction strategy really; let him get to you for the small stuff. Stop him upping the ante to hurting the kids.

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