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Cocklodger or bad communication?

108 replies

ApplepieSnapplepie · 20/09/2021 12:01

I've been seeing someone for a few months and as it's long distance we spend 3-4 nights together at a time. Due to work commitments this is always at mine. He is pretty tight with money in general (which is his prerogative/personality) and we usually take turns paying for things like drinks or meals out, all though I often feel that I end up paying more than him. E.g he'll pay for the drinks in a pub (maybe £15) and then I pay for the meal (maybe £35). Not sure if this is intentional on his part.

When he comes to stay at mine I am the one buying all the groceries, cooking the meals, getting snacks for us etc, and this is starting to irritate me. As I want us to have a nice weekend I pick up treats and nice things that I know we both like and he sometimes asks me to get him some beers (he has a few in the evenings, I don't) which I do. On one occasion he brought a bottle of wine when he came over (of which I probably got one glass). But usually he turns up empty handed or with beers that only he drinks.

He'll sometimes pop to the shop and get himself some beers and some snacks that he likes. He knows I don't drink beer but doesn't pick up a bottle of wine or anything else that I might like/that we could share.

It irritates me that I am thinking of him/us when I shop for the weekend, pick up snacks, cook meals that he will like. But he doesn't reciprocate. He never offers to get us a takeaway and he doesn't offer to pay for the meal if we go out. The weekends end up costing me lots of money (and I don't have much spare, as a single parent) as he also eats at least three times as much as I do and I'm doing lot's of trips to supermarket to top up.

I don't know if it's me, that I need to communicate this to him somehow, ask him to contribute? It feels like such an awkward subject and I would never ask a one off house guest to contribute (though most people I know would bring a bottle of wine). However, I would personally not expect to stay at someones house regularly and not bring something/offer to pay for some stuff or order in a takeaway.

Can this be resolved with good communication from me or is he just a cocklodger and this is indicative of future issues?

If it matters: he earns similar salary to me (slightly higher) but has significantly lower living costs).

OP posts:
WizardOfAus · 20/09/2021 17:11

But he definitely has got comfortable very quickly.

I bet he has. He’s found a comfy home and someone to do all the cooking, all the cleaning and he doesn’t have to pay fuck all. It’s a great deal for him!

There is nothing sexy about this guy. He is not a giver, a provider… he’s not even respecting you as an equal.

Please dump him OP and save yourself years of heartache and clutching onto that “one time” he bought a bottle of wine (of which you had barely any to drink).

PennyPooBags · 20/09/2021 17:15

I was a fool!

Cocklodger no. 1 even called my flat “the PooBag Hotel” and boasted that weekending with me made his giro go further. Cocklodger no. 2 raided my savings jar to fund his off-license purchases.

OP, your cocklodger lowers his living expenses even lower while yours are going higher to pay for him.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 20/09/2021 17:19

Throw him straight back and don't waste another minute on the loser

Fubitch · 20/09/2021 17:20

When you dump him please tell him why. Although he probably won't be, he deserves a feel thoroughly embarrassed.

FinallyHere · 20/09/2021 17:24

Put all your snacks/drinks/meals in carrier bags and hide in car boot or garage.

I see why you are suggesting this, but, honestly, it's just no way to live.

crimsonlake · 20/09/2021 17:38

Why would you even bother with a tight man like this??

ApplepieSnapplepie · 20/09/2021 18:01

I'm loving reading all of your responses and agree with you all! Don't know what I've been thinking?? I will be dumping imminently and it'll be done by phone, to avoid another visit!

I am very independent and work hard to provide for myself and DC. I'm not looking for a man to pay for me, but definitely looking for one that is also independent and pays his own way. I have no interest in being someones else's mum or mealticket. And it would be nice to be treated once in a while, especially during the early dating stage!

Definitely taking onboard comments about expecting more and having boundaries!

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 20/09/2021 18:11

A wise move to dump by phone! Good luck!

ApplepieSnapplepie · 20/09/2021 18:13

@Graphista
He is here 3-4 nights EOW, NEVER when my DC are here! At least I'm not foolish enough to introduce kids to a new partner, that was never going to happen anytime soon.

But apart from that, I agree with you.

OP posts:
starskey80 · 20/09/2021 18:22

Well done OP, and well done for valuing yourself.

QueenBee52 · 20/09/2021 18:30

Good on you 🎉🌸

DressBitch · 20/09/2021 18:51

And this is him during the honeymoon period when he's supposed be on his best behaviour...

FreshFreesias · 20/09/2021 19:15

Please, please leave this self-serving, stingy cocklodger.
He will get worse, trust me.

FreshFreesias · 20/09/2021 19:18

I wonder if British men are particularly tight?
A Russian friend said that she never dated British men as they expected women to pay for everything.

Pinkbonbon · 20/09/2021 19:45

@FreshFreesias

I wonder if British men are particularly tight? A Russian friend said that she never dated British men as they expected women to pay for everything.
I do know that I've found American men to be far less cocklodgerish in general too. Which is surprising as you'd think it would be similar.
Opaljewel · 20/09/2021 19:48

@PennyPooBags

I was a fool!

Cocklodger no. 1 even called my flat “the PooBag Hotel” and boasted that weekending with me made his giro go further. Cocklodger no. 2 raided my savings jar to fund his off-license purchases.

OP, your cocklodger lowers his living expenses even lower while yours are going higher to pay for him.

Why did he call it the poobag hotel? Shock
PennyPooBags · 20/09/2021 20:05

Free bed and full-board over the weekend - provided by ms poobag - he used to ring up and say “is that the poobag hotel” I thought it was all a joke but it was on me!

PennyPooBags · 20/09/2021 20:07

I used to provide nice picnics for trips out as well.

He did treat me to a fish and chip supper at the Asda Red Balloon café - once!

ApplepieSnapplepie · 20/09/2021 20:19

It's just so depressing at times, I'm the only single one out of all my friends, I'm late thirties and feel like it's just never going to happen for me. Everyone has their person, except for me. I don't even want to talk about my love life with my friends as it feels like they either pity me or enjoy it as gossip/entertainment. Was excited to finally have met someone who seemed to really like me. Now I'm not even sure if it was me or the catering he liked??

Having said that, I know that I am much better off alone than with a cocklodger! I am 100% worth more than settling for a crappy man who is just using me anyways. But, god, it's hard to keep your spirits up with this dating crap. Just having a little moan, I guess... Thanks for all the support.

OP posts:
altmember · 20/09/2021 20:21

The direct approach is the only way to attempt to resolve this. Either tell him what your weekly shop costs, and that as he's there 3+ days a week, it's only fair that he contributes towards it. Or text him a shopping list and say "I'm out of these things could you pop to the shops on your way over please." If he quibbles at all over that then you know for certain.

And since you only see him when you're child free, what's stopping you from going to his place half the time?

mcmooberry · 20/09/2021 20:25

Glad you are going to end it, once you realise what he is up to the irritation just builds. Thank the Lord you are on to him before you waste any more money.

FWBNC · 20/09/2021 20:30

@Anordinarymum

And when you do dump him tell him you simply could not afford him :)
Nah. Don't tell him you can't afford him!

Tell him he's not worth what it's costing you!!!

@ApplepieSnapplepie

If you need to tell an adult how to treat you, it's a pretty poor show! It's not like he has an annoying habit, this is who he is. There's a HUGE difference

He doesn't think about you, he doesn't want to do nice things for you. He doesn't appreciate what you do for him.

You need to cast this one aside so you can find one that's worthy of you!

Pinkbonbon · 20/09/2021 20:34

But men come and go throughout life. You could be married at 45 and your friends could all be singke again or divorced. Having a partner isn't endgame. It's just temporary company.

Graphista · 21/09/2021 00:44

Being single is a perfectly valid option and most definitely preferable to being in a relationship where you're treated badly.

Women and girls for Millenia have had it drummed into them they need a man! It's nonsense!

Having a partner isn't endgame. It's just temporary company.

Exactly

Limejuiceandrum · 21/09/2021 00:53

At least it was early on. And you didn’t get too attached

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