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What do you fink ?

148 replies

Sonaftersonafterson · 18/09/2021 13:42

About seeing someone who pronounces their 'th' as an 'f'? As in, "I was firsty anyway".

Would it put you off? Hes an intelligent guy but.... oh god, I dont know. Am I being a snob??

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notlongtillxmas · 18/09/2021 14:30

My daughter does something similar
She says "crips " instead of "crisps " drives me insane too
Regional , peer group , age attitude
Do I care ? No
Far worst things to worry about in life

TheVolturi · 18/09/2021 14:32

@pheonixrebirth

That isn't a speech impediment. I'm up north and hear this kind of talk. Think along the lines of " I was firsty and I got a likkle boccle of water at the the hospical". Watch a few episodes of the royle family that's got everyfink in it.
I would says its more common down south? Like Eastenders and Towie, they ALL speak like that.
SisterAgatha · 18/09/2021 14:33

I speak like this. I feel very rejected Blush Its London and you’ll probably find he can switch out of it if he tries to. I don’t talk like that at work if I can.

liveforsummer · 18/09/2021 14:34

@pontiouspilates my daughter can't actually make the 'th' sound. At least not without lots of coaching and never naturally she'll say fink for think or zis for this. It's not dialect here and does affect her spelling and understanding of what the word actually is so I was surprised at being told that.

SisterAgatha · 18/09/2021 14:34

And where I’m from most people don’t even say somefink, it’ll be one sound like saaaaink.

liveforsummer · 18/09/2021 14:36

@SisterAgatha

And where I’m from most people don’t even say somefink, it’ll be one sound like saaaaink.
Round here it's suhhin 😆
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 18/09/2021 14:36

[quote Sonaftersonafterson]@DotsandCo

Not just me then!!! It makes me wince. I dont know why I see it as an indicator of intelligence when I know full well it is not. Tricky one[/quote]
It's not an indicator of intelligence as one of the Chasers does the same and I wince every time too!

campion · 18/09/2021 14:38

If it's a speech impediment my nephew developed his aged 20 after moving from Yorkshire to Essex. Bit late I'd say.

It's laziness and yes it would put me off.

TheFoundations · 18/09/2021 14:41

I fink you have a preference, and it's natural, and it's allowed. If you were determined that he must be stupid or anything else because of the way he spoke, you'd be a snob. But that's not what you're saying.

Windmillwhirl · 18/09/2021 14:44

And where I’m from most people don’t even say somefink, it’ll be one sound like saaaaink.

Grin
MeredithGreyishblue · 18/09/2021 14:44

@SisterAgatha

And where I’m from most people don’t even say somefink, it’ll be one sound like saaaaink.
Joe Swash does that!

Some of the MC wannabe "streets" round here have started with the fink thing. Weird aggressive little sound change from usually lovely whose mums still press their PJ'S and are waiting in for the Ocado delivery.

They sound a bit silly really. They're so not street anything!

I'm sure I did equally daft things as a teenager. We mostly do.

AgentProvocateur · 18/09/2021 14:47

Couldn’t bear it. It would put me right off someone. Same as “we was” or “we done”.

SpeckledlyHen · 18/09/2021 14:47

@Neonplant

It's a regional thing. Yes you are being a snob
It's not a regional thing. I think some people really struggle when younger to grasp the th sound and revert to using an f - coupled with perhaps education and parents that did not correct them when younger.
SpeckledlyHen · 18/09/2021 14:50

@AgentProvocateur

Couldn’t bear it. It would put me right off someone. Same as “we was” or “we done”.
Same.. we was going to town for my firtieth birfday.
Embroidery · 18/09/2021 14:52

This is so harsh.
My first class degree educated daughter cannot say th, she says fink etc. Ive tried for years to get her to annunciate but I let it go in the end. She still speaks better than most people.

I used to worry when she was a child and I'm worried again now.

Why is society so judgmental. 😢

Sonaftersonafterson · 18/09/2021 14:54

Ahhh mixed views. I don't think I can cope with it. I'd be embarrassed introducing him to friends because of it. Such a shame because he is really really smart !!

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TheFoundations · 18/09/2021 14:57

Talking about a sexual preference isn't the same as talking about a societal judgment. I'd be unlikely to date a brummie, but that's not a judgment of brummies, it's just my preference.

Same as the fact that I don't like sprouts. I don't think there's anything wrong with them, or that my judgment is 'right' and sprouts are 'wrong'.

TheFoundations · 18/09/2021 14:57

@Sonaftersonafterson

Ahhh mixed views. I don't think I can cope with it. I'd be embarrassed introducing him to friends because of it. Such a shame because he is really really smart !!
THAT'S snobby.
LastGirlSanding · 18/09/2021 14:58

Wow really? Are your friends really that judgmental about things like this?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/09/2021 15:00

@notlongtillxmas

My daughter does something similar She says "crips " instead of "crisps " drives me insane too Regional , peer group , age attitude Do I care ? No Far worst things to worry about in life
It's not regional. It's everywhere, every accent, every dialect.

It isn't classis as it crosses all class divides. - as does axe instead of ask.

It's a 'thing' for many, just one of those lazy linguistic tricks some people learned as a kid and never lost, replaced with the correct mouth shaping.

Irritates me no end. But then, as a displaced Scouser who had her accent literally kicked out of her aged 9, I am often disparaging about such things. If you can speak properly then bloody well speak properly.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/09/2021 15:01

Oops! Sorry about including the quote. I'm on my phone, not sure how that happened.

Serves me right 😉

SoupDragon · 18/09/2021 15:03

It's not a regional thing. I think some people really struggle when younger to grasp the th sound and revert to using an f - coupled with perhaps education and parents that did not correct them when younger.

Of course it's a regional thing!

For some people it might be that they can't say it but for many, many others it's simply their accent. As for the last comment, that's just plain rude.

SoupDragon · 18/09/2021 15:04

If you can speak properly then bloody well speak properly.

Definite "properly". Received Pronunciation like the Queen?

Pinkbonbon · 18/09/2021 15:04

Yeah...no. I'd be put off by that. Because its not a regional thing, it's just an uneducated thing. One that might be more common in certain regions and amongst certain classes true, but still displays a lack of education to me. I'd expect from a child maybe but not a grown man.

minniemouseshouses · 18/09/2021 15:05

Yes, you are being a snob and shallow. People have accents. Typical working class accents are just as “valid” as others. Can’t even believe we are still having this discussion.

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