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Husband on grindr

161 replies

jubilee456 · 08/09/2021 13:12

Hi,
I recently caught my husband on grindr, after being married less than 6 months. He says he only ever downloads it when he is drunk. We sat down and spoke about it and he says he had an experience in Thailand many years ago, and this found a new interest in trans women. He says he is not into men. I thought we were good, but admittedly we have always found it difficult to have deep, meaningful conversations.

On top of all of this, it has come to light that he may have bipolar, which would explain the impulsive and reckless decision making. He has been referred and waiting for a diagnosis.

I need advice. On one hand, I chose to marry this man in sickness and in health. If he is genuinely mentally ill, I want to support him. On the other hand, I feel deeply betrayed by his lies and talking to other people behind my back.

He is adamant that he has never once met up with any of these people as he's never had the balls to. But he says he does it for a sense of feeling wanted. He is saying he loves me and only wants me, but I now have serious doubts. What if this happens again in the future? I don't want a relationship where I feel the need to check up on my husband or have this constant worry of who he is texting.

He says his behaviour is fuelled by alcohol and has admitted he has a problem. He is willing to give it up. This addiction all ties in to the symptoms of bipolar and I just don't know which direction to go in, is this a sign telling me to walk? Or do I stay and support my husband irregardless of what he has done. Sad

OP posts:
scatterolight · 08/09/2021 15:29

OP please cut your losses here and leave. This is NEVER going to work out for you. His behaviour is not "fueled" by alcohol. The alcohol lowers his inhibitions so he can let his real self and real desires come out - i.e. To have sex with men or men who are pretending to be women.

It is a disaster for you to be mixed up in this. Even if he has treatment for his "bipolar" or alcohol issues he will never change his underlying sexuality and fetishes. And you will always be wondering and anxious about when he might go off the rails and what fresh hell he might bring home to you.

Get out now!

Darkchocolateandcoffee · 08/09/2021 15:29

I think the boozing is a red herring. I have been incredibly drunk many times in my life but have never googled lesbians/trans men on gay hook up sites!

I would get out now before you have children. This is not ok.

fantastaballs · 08/09/2021 15:29

@Potteringshed

I've got bipolar affective disorder and sexually risky behaviour and developing sudden out of character interests is a symptom of hypomania and mania - one of the key symptoms in my diagnosis was that I had a pattern of engaging in inappropriate and often extreme behaviour with people I'd later realize I didn't fancy at all. It's a horrible come down - waking up and realizing you've had sex you'd never normally want. So I disagree strongly that his interest has nothing to do work bipolar. It might not, but it may well do.

Having said that, if his behaviour isn't something you can cope with, I think it's irrelevant whether that behaviour is due to his illness or not. Bipolar can be a tricksy beast and managing it is likely to be a life long journey. He won't just take a pill and it all stops. Can I ask where he is in the journey? Has he seen a psychiatrist/started meds yet? Or is this just a "maybe"?

I agree with everything in this. I also had very similar experiences and the horror of the "come down" after a manic episode when I had to face the people I had been having sex with was horrific. This behaviour was incredibly out of character for "stable" me and was most certainly part of my bipolar. Had I not been bipolar I would very very likely NOT have had sex with over a thousand people. I would very likely NOT have done some of the absolutely bizarre things and put myself at such huge risk.
whatwasIgoingtosay · 08/09/2021 15:43

I'd also be very worried about the heavy drinking.

Doubledoorsontogarden · 08/09/2021 15:49

If he doesn’t like men then he shouldn’t be on Grindr, it’s all about cock. I don’t buy his reasons for being on there. There’s websites for looking at trans and dating sites.

Thewiseoneincognito · 08/09/2021 15:52

I’m not sure your Dh wanting to sleep with Trans women or gay men is indicative of mental illness. More indicative of a bisexual/curious cheat.

He will have met up with someone. He’d be watching trans porn if it was to just get off.

His bipolar is a separate issue entirely.

knittingaddict · 08/09/2021 16:20

[quote 19Bears]@jubilee456 You can get an annulment if you've been married less than a year. Get it now. The drink driving would actually be worse to me than the other stuff. Marriage vows work both ways, it's not free rein to do anything you like and expect your partner to support you, no way. You don't have to give him any second chances or help him change, he's done this within SIX MONTHS of marrying you! His chance is gone. You deserve so much better than being stuck with this for a day longer, never mind the rest of your life. Good luck OP x[/quote]
No, you can't. Not in England anyway. There are very specific rules around annulment and they usually involve the marrieage being invalid for some reason. Timescales are not relevant, but the reasons are:

www.gov.uk/how-to-annul-marriage

summertime202 · 08/09/2021 16:28

Run ASAP !

Tal45 · 08/09/2021 16:36

Oh god OP it sounds like you don't know this man at all, you are not obliged to put up with all this shit because you married him 'in sickness or in health'. Please get out now before you get any deeper - can you really see yourself having children at some point with this person? Please don't. Why does he want to feel wanted by other people if he only wants you - it's all bullshit OP, please don't let him manipulate you.

SarahBellam · 08/09/2021 16:48

Bullshit. My husband was on Grindr. He wasn’t on it to swap recipes or discuss politics. He was on it because he wanted to have sex with men. And by all accounts he did - frequently. Tell me this OP, if he had Tinder downloaded onto his phone would that be ok? Because having either on his phone is an indicator that he’s cheating or wants to. I am really sorry, OP, it really sucks. Mine denied it but then I found a bag in his cupboard full of condoms and ticket stubs for gay bars etc. He travelled a lot for work and basically every time he went away he indulged in the local nightlife - even going to Disneyland with one of his hook ups! The old adage ‘if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck, then it very definitely is a duck.

HebeJeeby · 08/09/2021 16:51

Marriage vows also include ‘Forsaking all others’, the onus isn’t just on you to keep them.

LaBellina · 08/09/2021 16:54

Get out and do an STD test.
No mental issues justify cheating.

LastGirlSanding · 08/09/2021 16:59

I’m so confused why trans women would be on Grindr. Because if you accept trans women are women then surely they don’t meet the criteria for a gay men’s hookup app?? Even if they were bisexual they still don’t meet the criteria.

zenthoughtsonlythanks · 08/09/2021 17:03

I would STI tests now, and would move to protect myself financially and emotionally. He is not who you thought he was, it is better to cut your losses now op rather than endure a lifetime with a liar and a cheat.

PersonaNonGarter · 08/09/2021 17:08

Things you can’t do: Rescue him

Things you can d: Leave

layladomino · 08/09/2021 17:40

Was your husband worrying about your marriage vows when he downloaded Grindr and fantisised about hooking up with someone?

Whilst I totally respect 'in sickness and in health', he has already compromised your promises.

You say that he's getting help now for his MH issues, and has said he'll give up drinking, but why didn't he do that before? He's only done these things since he got caught, right? So he was happy to continue drinking and checking out Grindr so long as you knew nothing about it.

Making efforts to change now seems a bit hollow.

This is 6 months in to your marriage - he doesn't even have the 'excuse' (not that it would be an excuse) of things having gone stale after many years together. At 6 months in you should still be very much in the honeymoon phase.

Journeyofthedragons · 08/09/2021 18:12

if it looks like a duck and it walks fucks like a duck, then it very definitely is a duck

FTFY

RubyGoat · 08/09/2021 18:19

Who he is looking to hook up with is largely irrelevant. The fact is, he's looking to cheat on you. With strangers. He, and by extension you, could contract a very nasty STD through his behaviour. He knows this and yet he's still doing it. And you're still putting up with it.

If he has a MH disorder, he needs to get help with that. You don't need to stick around & put your health at risk to facilitate that. By staying, you're basically enabling him to continue as he is, as he is facing no consequences.

Babyghirl · 08/09/2021 18:23

@jubilee456
Sorry but he would be grinding his way out the front door.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 08/09/2021 18:33

Darling, I say this with love. He is gay. But in complete denial.
You need to accept that and so does he. It will never work out as now the genie is out of the bottle it'll never go back in you'll spend the rest of your life wondering if he's fooling about with men.
The bipolar thing has nothing to do with sexuality, no drug to help that will make him suddenly heterosexual again. So sorry that you have suddenly found this out but you deserve to be happy and so does he, so you both need to be honest that this relationship in its current form is over.

mynameisbrian · 08/09/2021 18:35

I have worked with people with the severe end of bipolar, their is usually always a dip into a depressive stage after mania. Not surprisngly because the mood dips and then they need to deal with what they remember doing when in the manic phase. Sadly i have dealt with people who have committed horrendous crimes, people who have been promiscuous, violent however these are people who have been known to community mental health teams, who end up being sectioned and admitted to hospital.

If OP is only 6mths into marriage I find it hard to believe that his BPD wouldnt have been very obvious if it was as severe as she is suggesting as it has caused him to seek out trans men abroad and download grindr. It more likely he likes men and hasnt come to terms with that, maybe his family have strong view. For me I would chuck his ass out as he is a cheat

Twinkie01 · 08/09/2021 18:36

Could his depression etc come from the fact that he's not honest about his sexuality and is trying to fight his natural urges?

ClaudiaWinkleHam · 08/09/2021 19:20

@roarfeckingroarr

Trans women are men though.

OP I would leave. This is all too much.

No. They are women.

But to the OP, being gay is not a mental illness. So sorry this is happening to you but please put yourself first.

RantyAunty · 08/09/2021 19:36

Of course you don't stick around.

You didn't say how long you knew him before marrying him. Regardless, he has lied to you and deceived you.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 08/09/2021 19:38

Nah
As much I respect marriage vows
He’s lied about a major fucking issue

I’d leave now , get some therapy and move on darling xxxx