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Married. But have a very close male friend, am I doing anything wrong? Ps. I know previous months have been bad, but can we maintain a friendship after and it stay as just that?

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Chloedavis2020 · 06/09/2021 12:23

So I have a friend, who’s the opposite sex to me. We are both married in serious relationships with children of a similar age. He’s someone I knew before my husband, and the only male I’ve ever been close to other than my husband. ( and in a way, I always felt more of a connection with this friend, than my husband.) that said, I obviously love my husband, we’ve built a family and a life together, and nothing will ever come close to that. I knew this friend at school, and we was very close. I always had feelings for him, though I never made them known. He was very much a jack the lad, and was in and out of relationships or one night stands with girls, he never made any moves towards me growing up and we just sat in the friend area for a long time. Although we didn’t do any thing sexually, I always felt close to him, and him me. We would talk for hours. Till early mornings, he would do things for me that he wouldn’t do for anyone else. Eventually at around 19 he slept with my best friend. It’s broke my heart to pieces as it came out of nowhere, they didn’t even speak beforehand, it seems so out the blue and I was shocked and hurt. I think this is when all true feelings I had came to the surface. I was angry and upset, and ignored him, he tried apologising, and from there we both drifted apart and got into new relationships, settled down, married and had children relatively young.

We didn’t speak for around 7 years, until one day he messaged on Instagram. I instantly felt that connection and closeness that was always there as soon as we spoke. We enjoyed catching up, and seeing how happy and well we had done for ourselves. Catching up on 7 years worth of gossip took awhile, and we even spoke of mutual friends we hadn’t seen for the same amount of years. After a few weeks when all the catching up was said and done, we stayed in contact from time to time. It was always him who would message, but I would usually reply. It was all innocent and time passing friendly conversation. Eventually after around a year of talking on and off We expressed how we often found ourselves thinking of the other when we were with our spouses, and it scared us a bit I think. My friend apologised and said he didn’t come back after all these years to try and mess up my life, and he we went from all my social media platforms. We didn’t end on an argument, but just said our goodbyes and wished each other well. I could let him leave easily. A whole year went by, and then he got in contact again. But this time, everything changed. It was like we went from 0-100 and before we knew it we was talking all day everyday, texting, phone calls and even the occasional meet up as friends. Things began to become a little flirty, and we touched on how we both felt sexual tensions. I don’t consider myself a horrible person, and I’m not sure when the lines got blurred, but photos and videos was exchanged in a sexual way. For a few months following this, things were messy. It kind of felt like the beginning of a new relationship, although we have never fully admitted how we feel about eachother, we still maintain we are friends only. I was going through a rough patch at this time, my relationship hasn’t been plain sailing and I’ve been on the receiving end of cheating in some kind of way a lot. It doesn’t justify what I’ve done, but gives some background.

We ended up alone together on a night out, and advances were made by us both, but I couldn’t go through with it and we went home. From then I felt embarrassed, that I had given the impression all these months it was what I wanted, to get it and not go through with it. He understood, he always understands me. I stopped speaking with him for 5 months after, as I decided enough was enough, as bad as it was, it was a wake up call. Not speaking and being in contact atall killed me everyday, I couldn’t let him go as easily as I did the first time and it hurt everyday. He took over my thoughts from morning to night, and I even dreamt about him when asleep. He had become my best friend. The person I was closest to in life, and it felt almost like grieving. 5 months later I finally caved, and asked his brother to tell him to contact me.

It’s been 6 months since we’ve been back in contact, and for me it feels the best, healthiest few months so far. Nothing of a sexual nature has been spoke about or exchanged, we don’t flirt and we don’t meet up. It really feels like the old schools days when it was a friendship only. We spoke alot about the past messy months. And I apologised for all the inappropriate things I said and done, I think at the time I was just a little lost in life, and he was my life line. I said there was a time I felt I had feelings in a romantic way, but feel they have all simmered down to care and compassion for a friend. He said he found this sad, but it’s good. He says he’s glad nothing happened with us. And that he values me too much to just have me as a one night stand. He says what we have is worth more than sex, and he’s just grateful he has me atall. He says we can never be more than friends, so if friends the best it’s going to be then he’s happy with that. He says if we did have sex, I would just think of him as a mistake, cuz that’s all it’ll be allowed to be and he doesn’t want to be that to me. He says he’s worried if something happened I would panic and cut him out of my life. He says he cares about me, and my family, and he doesn’t wanna mess anything up as he could never live with himself after destroying my family. Since then things have been platonic, we speak everyday alomost still, but about our children, partners, work, mutual friends, life in general. But he’s been asking to meet ALOT. A lot more than in the past. And I’ve refused everytime. I’m scared he now wants more? Or are we just friends. Is it safe to be friends once this has happened? I feel only friendly feelings now, but care deeply. Some days I just wanna hug and cuddle him, which is different from the sexual thoughts I once had. What does this all mean please? Please be kind. I never went out looking for any of this to happen. And I’ve never cheated, no even kissed another man in 15 years of marriage. I doubt my husband could say the same. And when I say he asks to meet, it’s as friends not in a hot sweaty hotel room. Thank you for taking the time to read and reply :)

OP posts:
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/09/2021 12:31

You are cheating. There's no way to return this to 'friendship' status as you've both made it sexual. There's no kind way to say that. Stop it or don't. It's your life, your marriage and your jeopardy if that's what you choose.

householdrmk · 06/09/2021 12:35

Grow up ffs. This is like a couple of teens but you're married with children as is he. You know what you need to do.

ditalini · 06/09/2021 12:36

A whole year went by, and then he got in contact again. But this time, everything changed. It was like we went from 0-100 and before we knew it we was talking all day everyday, texting, phone calls and even the occasional meet up as friends. Things began to become a little flirty, and we touched on how we both felt sexual tensions. I don’t consider myself a horrible person, and I’m not sure when the lines got blurred, but photos and videos was exchanged in a sexual way. For a few months following this, things were messy. It kind of felt like the beginning of a new relationship, although we have never fully admitted how we feel about eachother, we still maintain we are friends only. I was going through a rough patch at this time, my relationship hasn’t been plain sailing and I’ve been on the receiving end of cheating in some kind of way a lot. It doesn’t justify what I’ve done, but gives some background.

We ended up alone together on a night out, and advances were made by us both, but I couldn’t go through with it and we went home.

You did cheat. It's literally there in your post. Why are you pretending that sexting and an emotional affair isn't cheating?

Carry on or don't, but don't pretend this is a friend to your marriage. You had unrequited feelings for a long time, including after you got married. He definitely wants to shag you and to be honest seems to already be planning his exit for afterwards.

I mean, it's not impossible that you're both past the romantic/sexual bit, but it's unlikely and I think both your partners would feel pretty unhappy about your continuing friendship if they knew about what had gone on.

dovesandroses · 06/09/2021 12:36

It's not a purely Platonic relationship when there are feelings there, he sounds like a chancer who was never that interested when you were young but likes you around for attention and you are wanting more of a emotional affair than physical, it's dangerous territory that will destroy your existing relationship

Sneesher · 06/09/2021 12:37

This is an emotional affair.

idontlikealdi · 06/09/2021 12:37

How would you feel if your H had a friend like this? There's your answer.

SoundBar · 06/09/2021 12:39

He is taking the piss out of you OP. Just like he did when you were 19.

Think about that

VimFuego101 · 06/09/2021 12:40

@idontlikealdi

How would you feel if your H had a friend like this? There's your answer.
This. I don't think you'd be OK with this situation in reverse, so there's your answer.
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/09/2021 12:41

Oh, and you'd better hope that he didn't keep those videos on his phone. That was foolish, OP. Anytime you put images online, you lose control of them.

Kittyswhiskers · 06/09/2021 12:43

I think you’d be really hurt and considering divorce if your husband had done what you’d done..

AramintaLee · 06/09/2021 12:48

This person is taking up far too much of your mental energy... you barely reference your husband and children in all of this. No matter how much you want this relationship to be okay, you're having an emotional affair. Imagine if you found out your husband was having an intense friendship with another woman? How would that make you feel?

For your own sake, you need to stop this.

MyBadHabitsLeadToYou · 06/09/2021 12:50

Why do you think your husband hasn’t remained faithful? Do you have a reason to believe that or are you just trying to justify yourself?

RuthTopp · 06/09/2021 12:52

When I saw your post and clicked on it and began to read , I was with you in my head saying yes you can have a male friend with whom you get on great with whilst being married to another.
However , on reading further down your post I've stopped and not read further.
You have stepped over the line from friendship to something akin to having an affair. It's not right , you have cheated on your husband and he deserves something better. I have no sympathy for you as you obviously have had a crush on this man for a long while and have taken it further.

I am married and have kept in contact with a friend ( who is male and married ) We worked together 10+ years ago , he emigrated with his family and we have kept in telephone contact. We exchange Christmas cards ( addressed to include whole family ) and if he phoned whilst my dh is in the room , I can speak with him exactly the same as if we were speaking not in my husbands presence, i.e that is what a friendship means not with any flirty undertones.

knittingaddict · 06/09/2021 12:52

I'm going to treat this as if it is real.

Please be kind. I never went out looking for any of this to happen. And I’ve never cheated, no even kissed another man in 15 years of marriage. I doubt my husband could say the same.

It's so disingenuous to say that you didn't go looking for it. That's exactly what you did as you didnt try to stop it did you?

It is cheating.

You are implying that you husband has had affairs and the evidence for this is precisely zero I'm guessing. Even if he had, you think two wrongs make a right, do you?

PermanentTemporary · 06/09/2021 12:55

I entirely agree with everyone else. You've always fancied this chancer and the excitement of will we/won't we is taking up masses of mental space. You risk losing everything including the respect of your husband and your peace of mind.

I do get that you've settled down very young. This guy sounds as if he knows you have a soft spot for him and whenever his current woman dumps him he gets in touch for a bit of a thrill. It's difficult. Block him.

wizzywig · 06/09/2021 12:56

Do you actually want a relationship with this friend?

Aquamarine1029 · 06/09/2021 12:57

He's not your friend, he wants to fuck you. He's messing you about just like he did back in school.

Stop cheating, stop communicating with him, get some therapy, and decide if you want to save or end your marriage. What you're doing now is a fool's game.

Chloedavis2020 · 06/09/2021 13:07

A lot of hate which is what I half expected. Was hoping I would find someone who’s also been in my position but supoose it’s rare. Half of this I needed to hear. And half I already knew. I’ve been married 15 years. And I’ve never PHYSICALLY cheated then, if that’s better for you all. I understand I the photos and videos was wrong, hell wrong. It makes me feel sick thinking about it, and I don’t know what came over me to think it was ok at the time. I have been cheated on, I don’t think my husbands ever had an affair. I don’t think I’ve been fully happy for a long time, and I think gaps in my relationship got filled by my friend. It’s hard because he feels like my best friend, I can tell him anything and trust him more than some of my female friends. I think we both got confused over the months, and crossed a line which shouldn’t of been crossed. I beleive he wants sex from me, if anything he’s had plenty of opportunities in the past to try something. I’d like to think we can continue as friends. But I guess you all can’t be wrong. :( thank you for being honest. I guess I’ll have to cut all ties as the person who stated he’s taking up a lot of mental time, he really is. And as much as I adore him, he doesn’t deserve that.

OP posts:
Chloedavis2020 · 06/09/2021 13:08

I don’t believe he wants sex from me

OP posts:
knittingaddict · 06/09/2021 13:09

What was this all about then:

We ended up alone together on a night out, and advances were made by us both, but I couldn’t go through with it and we went home.

The advances were non physical were they?

knittingaddict · 06/09/2021 13:11

@Chloedavis2020

I don’t believe he wants sex from me **
Are you trying to draw us in with that dubious comment?

I'll leave you to it.

Kuachui · 06/09/2021 13:12

This is he's not your best friend. He's a friend from childhood who is now your lover.

Doesn't matter if you've been physical with him or not he's your lover and your cheating.

Either leave your husband and move on or try to keep your family together and forget this man.

If he's cheating on his wife then he also can't be that good of a person either.

Kuachui · 06/09/2021 13:12

Also of course he does want sex. - _- don't be delusional he wants an affair

PlanDeRaccordement · 06/09/2021 13:17

Sorry OP, but you are having a full blown emotional affair. I am usually the first to say that married men and women can just be friends.

But you have a sexual attraction to this man...one that you have both acted on. In addition, you are speaking about him in a highly romantic way:
I always had feelings for him,
I always felt close to him, and him me. We would talk for hours. Till early mornings, he would do things for me that he wouldn’t do for anyone else
He took over my thoughts from morning to night, and I even dreamt about him when asleep. He had become my best friend. The person I was closest to in life

This has to be affecting both your marriages. I’m sorry but you need to choose him or your husband because you can’t stay married to your husband while so emotionally invested in this other man.

Restinblue · 06/09/2021 13:29

You’re not just friends. Don’t kid yourself.