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Married. But have a very close male friend, am I doing anything wrong? Ps. I know previous months have been bad, but can we maintain a friendship after and it stay as just that?

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Chloedavis2020 · 06/09/2021 12:23

So I have a friend, who’s the opposite sex to me. We are both married in serious relationships with children of a similar age. He’s someone I knew before my husband, and the only male I’ve ever been close to other than my husband. ( and in a way, I always felt more of a connection with this friend, than my husband.) that said, I obviously love my husband, we’ve built a family and a life together, and nothing will ever come close to that. I knew this friend at school, and we was very close. I always had feelings for him, though I never made them known. He was very much a jack the lad, and was in and out of relationships or one night stands with girls, he never made any moves towards me growing up and we just sat in the friend area for a long time. Although we didn’t do any thing sexually, I always felt close to him, and him me. We would talk for hours. Till early mornings, he would do things for me that he wouldn’t do for anyone else. Eventually at around 19 he slept with my best friend. It’s broke my heart to pieces as it came out of nowhere, they didn’t even speak beforehand, it seems so out the blue and I was shocked and hurt. I think this is when all true feelings I had came to the surface. I was angry and upset, and ignored him, he tried apologising, and from there we both drifted apart and got into new relationships, settled down, married and had children relatively young.

We didn’t speak for around 7 years, until one day he messaged on Instagram. I instantly felt that connection and closeness that was always there as soon as we spoke. We enjoyed catching up, and seeing how happy and well we had done for ourselves. Catching up on 7 years worth of gossip took awhile, and we even spoke of mutual friends we hadn’t seen for the same amount of years. After a few weeks when all the catching up was said and done, we stayed in contact from time to time. It was always him who would message, but I would usually reply. It was all innocent and time passing friendly conversation. Eventually after around a year of talking on and off We expressed how we often found ourselves thinking of the other when we were with our spouses, and it scared us a bit I think. My friend apologised and said he didn’t come back after all these years to try and mess up my life, and he we went from all my social media platforms. We didn’t end on an argument, but just said our goodbyes and wished each other well. I could let him leave easily. A whole year went by, and then he got in contact again. But this time, everything changed. It was like we went from 0-100 and before we knew it we was talking all day everyday, texting, phone calls and even the occasional meet up as friends. Things began to become a little flirty, and we touched on how we both felt sexual tensions. I don’t consider myself a horrible person, and I’m not sure when the lines got blurred, but photos and videos was exchanged in a sexual way. For a few months following this, things were messy. It kind of felt like the beginning of a new relationship, although we have never fully admitted how we feel about eachother, we still maintain we are friends only. I was going through a rough patch at this time, my relationship hasn’t been plain sailing and I’ve been on the receiving end of cheating in some kind of way a lot. It doesn’t justify what I’ve done, but gives some background.

We ended up alone together on a night out, and advances were made by us both, but I couldn’t go through with it and we went home. From then I felt embarrassed, that I had given the impression all these months it was what I wanted, to get it and not go through with it. He understood, he always understands me. I stopped speaking with him for 5 months after, as I decided enough was enough, as bad as it was, it was a wake up call. Not speaking and being in contact atall killed me everyday, I couldn’t let him go as easily as I did the first time and it hurt everyday. He took over my thoughts from morning to night, and I even dreamt about him when asleep. He had become my best friend. The person I was closest to in life, and it felt almost like grieving. 5 months later I finally caved, and asked his brother to tell him to contact me.

It’s been 6 months since we’ve been back in contact, and for me it feels the best, healthiest few months so far. Nothing of a sexual nature has been spoke about or exchanged, we don’t flirt and we don’t meet up. It really feels like the old schools days when it was a friendship only. We spoke alot about the past messy months. And I apologised for all the inappropriate things I said and done, I think at the time I was just a little lost in life, and he was my life line. I said there was a time I felt I had feelings in a romantic way, but feel they have all simmered down to care and compassion for a friend. He said he found this sad, but it’s good. He says he’s glad nothing happened with us. And that he values me too much to just have me as a one night stand. He says what we have is worth more than sex, and he’s just grateful he has me atall. He says we can never be more than friends, so if friends the best it’s going to be then he’s happy with that. He says if we did have sex, I would just think of him as a mistake, cuz that’s all it’ll be allowed to be and he doesn’t want to be that to me. He says he’s worried if something happened I would panic and cut him out of my life. He says he cares about me, and my family, and he doesn’t wanna mess anything up as he could never live with himself after destroying my family. Since then things have been platonic, we speak everyday alomost still, but about our children, partners, work, mutual friends, life in general. But he’s been asking to meet ALOT. A lot more than in the past. And I’ve refused everytime. I’m scared he now wants more? Or are we just friends. Is it safe to be friends once this has happened? I feel only friendly feelings now, but care deeply. Some days I just wanna hug and cuddle him, which is different from the sexual thoughts I once had. What does this all mean please? Please be kind. I never went out looking for any of this to happen. And I’ve never cheated, no even kissed another man in 15 years of marriage. I doubt my husband could say the same. And when I say he asks to meet, it’s as friends not in a hot sweaty hotel room. Thank you for taking the time to read and reply :)

OP posts:
zebideedoodah · 06/09/2021 13:32

Thus guy is playing the longest game I've ever seen but there's no doubt you're being reeled in like a fish. You don't seem that averse to it, though. In fact, I think you're probably doing exactly the same to him, but neither of you want to take responsibility for initiating the irreversible next step. Time to decide...

SummerWhisper · 06/09/2021 13:32

No, there is not a lot of hate, but a lot of sense, which you did not want to hear.

The fact that he didn't speak to your best friend but had sex with her proves the type of man he is. He uses women for sex, he is a player. You are not special to him. He already has his get out of jail card for when you have sex and he does a runner, which he has already blamed on you. He treats women as sex toys. This man is not your best friend. Your neediness is feeding his ego. What a toxic combination. You will be reduced to a notch on his bedpost. That's all it is for him.

Figgygal · 06/09/2021 13:32

You love him
You were prob too scared to progress anything when younger for fear of rejection and now it’s festered and grown
Look up limerance the obsessive thoughts sound similar
Try and break this cycle op you can never just be friends

Lana07 · 06/09/2021 13:36

I would meet up as friends.

Lana07 · 06/09/2021 13:38

Sometimes a bit of fire, desire from another man even his official role is 'just a friend' can help to bring more sexuality to the marriage.

Lana07 · 06/09/2021 13:39

*even if his official role

OrlandointheWilderness · 06/09/2021 13:40

If my BF had a friend like this I'd feel betrayed and devastated.

Lana07 · 06/09/2021 13:41

I often have men on FB and Instagram who fancy me sexually (I don't reply, sometimes thank them for the compliment and kind words) and it only helps my marriage and boosts my already high self-esteem higher.

Doomscrolling · 06/09/2021 13:45

You have been cheating on your husband. Sexting, videos, a long and intense emotional affair.

It’s not that rare and your relationship with the friend isn’t special or unique, it’s like all other emotional affairs.

Your husband deserves better treatment. Poor man.

knittingaddict · 06/09/2021 13:55

@Lana07

I often have men on FB and Instagram who fancy me sexually (I don't reply, sometimes thank them for the compliment and kind words) and it only helps my marriage and boosts my already high self-esteem higher.
There are no words.
GreenClock · 06/09/2021 14:04

I bet that he knew you had a crush on him as a teen (half your school year probably knew too, these things are difficult to conceal). And yet he still made a play for your best mate. He’s not a particularly good guy (and his wife would certainly agree if she found out what has been happening).

I’m sorry that your husband has probably cheated. It’s a horrid feeling and I can understand why you are craving fun with this man rather than dealing with your shaky marriage. But it’s not the right thing to do.

EmbarrassingMama · 06/09/2021 14:09

This is absolutely horrible to read.

You mention “the photos and videos”. What are they? Sexting/nudes and stuff? Jesus, your poor husband.

Ijsbear · 06/09/2021 14:14

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HeartsAndClubs · 06/09/2021 14:17

OP, I have good male friends. The kind of friends I would go to in a crisis and who I would be there for. The kind of friends who I could spend hours talking to, but just talking.

At no point, ever, would I consider talking about being together sexually or exchanging sexual video’s and pictures.

The instant you did that you cheated on your partner. Don’t pretend that you don’t know that. You absolutely know that you had an affair but you’re trying to minimise it by claiming that you’re just friends and you oh so much regret stepping over a line yada yada.

This friendship is over. If your own marriage is in a bad place then end it. But he’s married as well, and you don’t have the right to step into the middle of that marriage.

Walk away and FGS have a bit more self respect than to start bloody sexting.

GroggyLegs · 06/09/2021 14:17

@Lana07

I often have men on FB and Instagram who fancy me sexually (I don't reply, sometimes thank them for the compliment and kind words) and it only helps my marriage and boosts my already high self-esteem higher.
This post is marvellous. I'm imagining Marina from Last of the Summer Wine saying it.

OP - you're having an emotional affair.
My advice is to either leave a marriage in which I'd assume you're bored & there's no trust, or work on that to make it better.
Either way, stop dicking about with a married man.

HeartsAndClubs · 06/09/2021 14:20

I often have men on FB and Instagram who fancy me sexually (I don't reply, sometimes thank them for the compliment and kind words) and it only helps my marriage and boosts my already high self-esteem higher. so it turns you on to be hit on by creeps on the internet? Okayyy. Hmm

Personally if some weirdo started making sexual advances to me on line I’d block the fucker. But to each their own I suppose.

And I’m sure your husband would be happy to know that your marriage is kept strong by the flattery of perverts on the internet. MMm.

LittleMysSister · 06/09/2021 14:21

Tbh OP it sounds like you're in love with this man and have a connection with him that your husband can't match.

So in my eyes, either you want to be with your husband, in which case you cut contact with this man completely to eliminate the risk of things going further, or you leave you husband and make a go of it with this man.

It sounds to me like the feelings between both of you are too strong to just be friends.

SnatchCassidy · 06/09/2021 14:23

Couldn't even be bothered with that wall of text. It was obvious what you were building to even after the essay of trying to minimise and tell us all how you don't consider yourself a nasty person in spite of cheating. Pathetic.

Hekatestorch · 06/09/2021 14:25

Op, I think k you have romatisied this in a huge way.

How were you so close as teens, bit he didn't ever speak to your best friend.

You can't have been as close as you say you were AND have another best friend who barely knew eachother.

I suspect, then and now, (to him) you will always be the girl who wants him and massages his ego. Does everyone else know how close you both were? Or, as a suspect, was this a friendship that was just kept between you 2, so he could carry on being 'Jack the lad'.

And you are falling for it again. A relationship where you know eachother better than anyone else, he makes you feel alive etc all in secret. That's not going to go anywhere. He isn't going to leave his relationship, but he will shag you and revert to 'just friends' again.

How is he still not 'Jack the lad' now.

This is an affair. Advances were made. Setting has happened. You are investing in him emotionally.

If its not cheating and not a big deal, tell your husband. See if he thinks 'advances' and nudes photos are fine. You would be happy if he tells you he has been up to the same?

You don't love this man, it's a teenage crush that you never got over and you are letting him use you again. Bit she the shit hits the fan, it will be your life ots all splattered over.

Tal45 · 06/09/2021 14:26

Remember that Jack the lad he was when he was young? The one who'd sleep with anyone including your best friend who he hadn't even really spoken to? Well he hasn't grown up OP, he's still that person. And while you might be desperately in love with him, he knows exactly what to say to keep that going, and because you confide in him he knows exactly how to manipulate you. I call narcissist OP, one that only ever really wants a shag.

RantyAunty · 06/09/2021 14:27

I feel for your husband and children. All the time and energy wasted on this cad that could have been spent on your family.

If you don't want to stay married, end it.

This guy is not your friend. He does want to fuck. Grown men aren't hanging around grown women to play backgammon. His poor wife and children.

Chloedavis2020 · 06/09/2021 14:35

Just to be clear to the people who’ve commented I cheated physically on the night in question, I didn’t. By advances I mean, we were out drinking with mural friends and we caught each others glare from across the room, a few smiles where exchanged etc. I left as I got upset over an issue at the party, and he followed me. He knows my past and probs the only person there that night that knew why I was upset. He comforted me, and we ended up in a mural hug, he kissed the top of my head and as I looked up we caught a second of closeness that felt as though something could happen. I pulled back and tbh it was more of a mutual thing. I don’t believe he would ever try something with me, he always says he values us as friends too much to let sex break our friendship. I can’t justify the photos, they were wrong and I would never take part in that again, but life isn’t always as black and white. I found someone who cared, listened and showed compassion, something my relationship lacks at home. I don’t feel as though I love him, I love my husband. This feels more of an addiction, just one day of no contact aches inside. I know a lot of people have been on the receiving end on an affair, and for that I get a lot of backlash but I don’t feel sexually attracted to him, I just feel like he’s a really really good friend. And even if we was single I don’t think I would want things to progress further and risk loosing him, he says the same too. I take what you have all said on board, and I will reread it all again later when I’m home from work. I haven’t gone out my way to hurt anyone, and I feel all kinds of sadness for the things I have done. But I have never taken up an opportunity to have something happen between us; and I don’t think either of us want that. He loves his wife, and I love my Husband. We have never gone looking for a second relationship, I was just interested if anyone had managed to stay friends after a heated few months.

OP posts:
youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/09/2021 14:47

If you weren't attracted to him I don't get why you'd be sexting. I think you're lying to yourself about a lot of this preserve your self image and not be the bad guy.

If your husband did what you've done - sexting a friend of the opposite sex, telling them they feel so close and can share anything, discussing how sex could complicate the dynamic - but still discussing sex with each other which is inappropriate, speaking as regularly as you were, saying he felt addicted to her etc... if your husband did all of that what would you feel and what would you say to him?

Ijsbear · 06/09/2021 14:53

I withdrew my previous message but I had the experience of attraction to a very close friend. There aren't many people I really click with. I stamped hard on the attraction - never acted in any way on it and made damn sure I didn't let myself daydream, becuase my marriage came first (terrible as it was). The attraction lessened over time and without being fed.

The friendship survived and in fact, 2 years after the divorce (oh thank god I got free) we are now in a relationship taking it very, very slowly. There's a lot of healing to do.

So yes, it is possible with a great deal of self control and really good friends are rare gems. I'm not sure this man is quite as nice as you think he is though, and your energy needs to go to your husband and kids. Does this man truly add to your life (in a healthy way)?

Maflingo · 06/09/2021 14:54

You can’t change the past, but you do need to make a choice now. Either you stop contact completely and focus on your marriage; or end your marriage. There is no way “back” to “just friends”.

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