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Husband has walked out ....

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lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 00:06

I have name changed …. Well, think I have anyway, if I’ve done it properly. Sorry if this is a bit long, trying not to drip feed.

My husband has left and it’s just hitting home, there’s fault on both sides but at the moment I just feel lost.

We’ve been married for 5 years, together for 6. I have 3 DC from my first marriage (relatively amicable divorce, both now remarried) and we’ve gone on to have 2 further DC, there’s a 10 year gap between the 2 sets of children.
My DH has a history of depression and anxiety and at times it has been all consuming, but he has been proactive in seeking help, will go to the gp and takes meds. However, when I was pregnant with our first DC together he had a breakdown and as a result he was let go from work on the grounds of ill health. His employers really did try to facilitate his return but it was unmanageable, in the end nothing is worth risking your health over and work really was exacerbating his mental health issues.

He switched meds, attended psychiatry appointments and worked at getting better. He found creative work he could do from home and seemed in a better place altogether. So much so we had a second DC together.

We’ve always had arguments like any couple, usually quite mundane in nature, but every few months or so an argument will escalate and follow the same pattern. He has quite a temper, he’ll flare up, shout, rant, get really animated and will cumulate in him leaving to go to his parents house. This really can be over the most trivial of things, either one of us could be at fault (although he never thinks he’s in the wrong) but it plays out the same. He goes to his parents, cools off, we talk it through and he comes home. I’m open with the older children about their step dads mental health and why he needs to take time out post argument.

He can get quite fixated on things and struggles to let things go, I’m the opposite and am too laid back on occasion. He is struggling with the older DC, his step-children, the older girls in particular DD16 and DD14. He believes I’m not strict enough with them and let them get away with too much. To a degree he’s probably right but I think they’re good kids overall, they’ll help me out, do chores, love their little siblings and interact with them all the time. Sort themselves out for school, never miss a day or go in late and generally do as they’re told …. except when it comes to going to bed and getting out of bed when it’s not a school day. Then they will try and stay in bed until the afternoon.

So our little boy was playing up and DH rightly told him off, but DH then followed that up with a comment about how he shouldn’t tell off DS as the older kids “do what they want anyway” I retaliated to say that’s unfair and out of nowhere and next thing you know DH says he’s leaving as he’s had enough.

That was 4 days ago and he’s messaged tonight to say he’s done, he can’t handle my lack of parenting of the older children, I constantly belittle him and treat him as the least important member of the family. I’ve never supported him enough with his mental health and he can’t be in this relationship anymore.

I can’t argue because if that’s how he feels then that is how he feels but it all seems so unfair. I’ve always supported to the best of my ability, even if inside I was shitting myself as to how we’d cope, I kept it together and didn’t let it show. I work full time to support the family, he’s done some questionable things in the past but again I’ve always tried to be fair, talk things through and now I feel completely dumped …… sorry if this is a bit rambley but I feel so alone

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blisstwins · 06/09/2021 00:55

Did not want to read and run. I think blending families is difficult and it sounds like he is unreasonable and very fragile/immature. Your older children sound 100% normal—lovely even. They have to come before him and he knew you have older children when he got involved with yours. I know he has mental health issues, but this is just not right.

sadie9 · 06/09/2021 00:56

You have done nothing wrong. Don't doubt yourself. He sounds very immature and jealous of the attention your children get. He sounds like he makes himself the victim all the time and you all have to tiptoe around him. Your teenagers sound like typical teenagers, of course they want to sleep until they feel like getting up. Now he's flounced off to Mummy to teach you a lesson. Would you not be better off without him? He sounds emotionally abusive too. Don't let the bastard grind you down and suck the joy out of your life anymore. You've done nothing wrong.

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 01:12

Thank you so much, I'm crying here but more because you've both can see where I'm coming from, he was making me feel such a bad person.

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Peakypolly · 06/09/2021 01:25

You sound amazingly strong, although you may not feel it right now. There is no way you, and the DC, should be treading on eggshells around this man child, in case he stamps his foot and runs away when things don't go his way.

gonnabeok · 06/09/2021 03:23

Living with someone with mental health issues can be very draining, l did it for a long time. He sounds like a 2 year old. He will never change - He will always act like another child seeking attention. Don't play his game anymore.Let him get on with it and focus on you and the children. Think about the practical steps of separating and what needs to be done and get some legal advice.

romdowa · 06/09/2021 04:10

He sounds like a child having a tantrum. Of course the children come first 🙄 sounds like you and your children will be better off without him. Especially your older dc. Staying in bed all day is fairly typical for teenagers .

QueenBee52 · 06/09/2021 04:13

He's done you and more importantly your DC a massive favour...

pick yourself up and cherish those kids around you...

Get shot of this guy permanently 🌸

Monty27 · 06/09/2021 04:17

Love is a dream
True love is a rocky road
I hope you work it out for the best

Jarnss · 06/09/2021 04:35

Yes, well your kids do and should come before him. What a silly thing for him to get upset over.

Tell him you understand that it's over and you hope you can remain friends.

OP, don't have him back. It's normal for teenagers to want to be lazy on the weekend. FFS, you sound like a bloody good mother to me.

My DS1 when a teen bunked School and started smoking. Non of my others have followed suit luckily. Your DH has no bloody clue. The fact your teens are up and dressed for School without nagging is bloody amazing.

I get told 5 more minutes most mornings, followed by a tut and eye roll from my 13 year old DD. DS2 has also started to wind his neck and kiss his teeth. Ooh, how they grow up so fast. CakeWine

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lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 04:54

They get up completely independently and take themselves off to school (we live short walking distance) I've tried to say in the past that this in itself deserves some acknowledgement, but he firmly believes it's nothing noteworthy.

He's text a lengthy message around a hour back, reiterating that he is leaving and he won't be coming back. Gave he reasons and said it was too late to change anything, but he wants to sort out arrangements for the 2 youngest.

I guess there's nothing else I can do other than make sure the kids are all ok. I'll see if I can get some time off work to sort stuff out and make childcare arrangements.

Feel proper gutted, I don't recognise how cold he's turned so quickly. I know I said this has happened several times before but after a day or 2 we've talked things over and he's come back home.

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QueenBee52 · 06/09/2021 05:00

@lemonsandpumpkins

They get up completely independently and take themselves off to school (we live short walking distance) I've tried to say in the past that this in itself deserves some acknowledgement, but he firmly believes it's nothing noteworthy.

He's text a lengthy message around a hour back, reiterating that he is leaving and he won't be coming back. Gave he reasons and said it was too late to change anything, but he wants to sort out arrangements for the 2 youngest.

I guess there's nothing else I can do other than make sure the kids are all ok. I'll see if I can get some time off work to sort stuff out and make childcare arrangements.

Feel proper gutted, I don't recognise how cold he's turned so quickly. I know I said this has happened several times before but after a day or 2 we've talked things over and he's come back home.

You agree with him is what you do.. you prioritise yourself and your kids...

You sound pretty darned competent ... your heart will recover 🌸

timeisnotaline · 06/09/2021 05:07

Hmm I’d be replying ‘you have no idea how much support in this relationship has been a one way street and I haven’t been the one benefiting. This is probably for the best.’

Eviebeans · 06/09/2021 05:25

Physically he has left already - he is out of the house and staying somewhere else.
Practically there are things to organise like the house, do you own it, is it rented, who currently pays for it. Childcare.
Emotionally, once those things are dealt with, I'm guessing that it won't take long before you all (you and the children) feel much better. From reading your posts it seems that you work full time and have five children to look after. It sounds as if you are already doing the heavy lifting in the relationship.
Your older children sound great by the way and less "teenagery" than a lot of others.
If you stop to think about it you are managing fine and will continue to do so. Give yourself the credit you deserve Flowers

Eatingsoupwithafork · 06/09/2021 05:58

As someone who’s lived with depression most of her life, on and off, I would say he’s having a severe episode and when this happens it doesn’t matter what the issue is there will be a massive overreaction and the person may say something that is nowhere near how they feel when they are not in this episode but at that moment in time has been amplified in their head so much that it has become a big deal. So in your example, it annoys him a bit that your daughters dictate their own bedtimes but then when he feels at his worse it’s a total lack of respect to him and you don’t listen to his side of things.

I’m not sure if I am making sense in my example but I have been there and when I’m at my worse I am in such a bad place I don’t see anything right. You know his history and you know what he’s really like when not in this state so bare that in mind when making any decision if he asks to come back, personally I’d be giving him some time to process his thoughts but telling him to go see a doctor as it sounds like he’s having a bad spell. I genuinely think there’s a good chance he won’t want to leave he’s just hit a mental break. Depression is hard not just for the person who has it but for their loved ones too.

Eatingsoupwithafork · 06/09/2021 05:59

Should add I know people will think I’m terrible for sticking up for him, I’m not sticking up for him I am just trying to give an alternative view of what depression can be like sometimes.

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 06:29

"As someone who’s lived with depression most of her life, on and off, I would say he’s having a severe episode and when this happens it doesn’t matter what the issue is there will be a massive overreaction and the person may say something that is nowhere near how they feel when they are not in this episode but at that moment in time has been amplified in their head so much that it has become a big deal. So in your example, it annoys him a bit that your daughters dictate their own bedtimes but then when he feels at his worse it’s a total lack of respect to him and you don’t listen to his side of things."

That really does resonate and matches up with what he's saying.

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Tigresswoods · 06/09/2021 06:32

@Eatingsoupwithafork everything you've said resonated for me!!! I've only recently experienced living with someone with depression but yes this pushing away the nearest & blaming them is familiar. He needs some time.

SunnyDayOut · 06/09/2021 06:46

The thing is, there might be a reason he is behaving like this due to having a dip in his depression, but from the OP’s perspective, she has supported him for years, dealt with the eruptions of temper, arguments and previous walk-outs, and he is using her children’s (perfectly normal behaviour) as a stick to beat her with. So there comes a point where she is entitled to say ‘enough now’.

Shoxfordian · 06/09/2021 06:56

He’s done you a favour by leaving; don’t let him come back

Theunamedcat · 06/09/2021 06:56

Did you acknowledge his first im done message? Because sending the other one with the escalated we need to sort contact for the kids is screaming "ATTENTION ATTENTION EYES IN ME"

he will try creeping back do your kids a favor dont let him

saleorbouy · 06/09/2021 06:58

You great at coping with a mixed family of young ones and teens, that can't be easy.
Although he has MH issues I can't help being amazed that he runs back to his mum everytime things don't go his way, how old is this man?
He needs to man up and take care of his responsibilities aswell. What would happen if you copied and ran home to your Mum too?
He has family and his own issues but he can't drop all of you when the going gets tough and criticise from the side lines.
Family life has its ebbs and flows for everyone especially as teens become young adults he needs to grasp the fact that you need his help and assistance not to be running away.

Gensola · 06/09/2021 07:10

Tbh I know you’re really upset but I think you should end it with him, for the kids sake if nothing else. Also you sound like you’ve been giving and giving and giving and he doesn’t appreciate that at all. Mental
Health problems are no excuse for such monumental selfishness.

RBKB · 06/09/2021 07:22

Honestly, what on earth does he think the average 14 / 16 year old is like? Yours sound completely lovely. It really does not affect him if they stay in bed all day on a non school day!! There may be bumps and challenges ahead with these two and he will not be supportive at all with that. Sounds like all the support flows his way in this relationship. I would find your anger, OP. You might just find life easier without him. Be prepared for him to possibly realise this and ask to come back. What is best for YOU and your girls, rather than him him him? Xx

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 09:13

I know you're all right, I just feel so alone at the moment.

It's also so so hurtful when I've tried my best to be supportive and the strong one but get told not only was it not enough, I have actually made things worse. That it's my behaviour that has led us down this path. I know I'll feel angry eventually and have some fight but right now I feel sad, lonely and rejected. Such a bloody failure

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