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Husband has walked out ....

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lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 00:06

I have name changed …. Well, think I have anyway, if I’ve done it properly. Sorry if this is a bit long, trying not to drip feed.

My husband has left and it’s just hitting home, there’s fault on both sides but at the moment I just feel lost.

We’ve been married for 5 years, together for 6. I have 3 DC from my first marriage (relatively amicable divorce, both now remarried) and we’ve gone on to have 2 further DC, there’s a 10 year gap between the 2 sets of children.
My DH has a history of depression and anxiety and at times it has been all consuming, but he has been proactive in seeking help, will go to the gp and takes meds. However, when I was pregnant with our first DC together he had a breakdown and as a result he was let go from work on the grounds of ill health. His employers really did try to facilitate his return but it was unmanageable, in the end nothing is worth risking your health over and work really was exacerbating his mental health issues.

He switched meds, attended psychiatry appointments and worked at getting better. He found creative work he could do from home and seemed in a better place altogether. So much so we had a second DC together.

We’ve always had arguments like any couple, usually quite mundane in nature, but every few months or so an argument will escalate and follow the same pattern. He has quite a temper, he’ll flare up, shout, rant, get really animated and will cumulate in him leaving to go to his parents house. This really can be over the most trivial of things, either one of us could be at fault (although he never thinks he’s in the wrong) but it plays out the same. He goes to his parents, cools off, we talk it through and he comes home. I’m open with the older children about their step dads mental health and why he needs to take time out post argument.

He can get quite fixated on things and struggles to let things go, I’m the opposite and am too laid back on occasion. He is struggling with the older DC, his step-children, the older girls in particular DD16 and DD14. He believes I’m not strict enough with them and let them get away with too much. To a degree he’s probably right but I think they’re good kids overall, they’ll help me out, do chores, love their little siblings and interact with them all the time. Sort themselves out for school, never miss a day or go in late and generally do as they’re told …. except when it comes to going to bed and getting out of bed when it’s not a school day. Then they will try and stay in bed until the afternoon.

So our little boy was playing up and DH rightly told him off, but DH then followed that up with a comment about how he shouldn’t tell off DS as the older kids “do what they want anyway” I retaliated to say that’s unfair and out of nowhere and next thing you know DH says he’s leaving as he’s had enough.

That was 4 days ago and he’s messaged tonight to say he’s done, he can’t handle my lack of parenting of the older children, I constantly belittle him and treat him as the least important member of the family. I’ve never supported him enough with his mental health and he can’t be in this relationship anymore.

I can’t argue because if that’s how he feels then that is how he feels but it all seems so unfair. I’ve always supported to the best of my ability, even if inside I was shitting myself as to how we’d cope, I kept it together and didn’t let it show. I work full time to support the family, he’s done some questionable things in the past but again I’ve always tried to be fair, talk things through and now I feel completely dumped …… sorry if this is a bit rambley but I feel so alone

OP posts:
lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 09:15

Sorry all that have responded, I'm having a right pity party! Rest assured I'm not moping in front of the children.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 06/09/2021 09:31

I just feel so alone at the moment.

You are always alone in this relationship.

layladomino · 06/09/2021 09:41

Please don't ask him to reconsider. He has done you a favour.

Whilst it's tough dealing with MH problems, it's also tough living with someone who is suffering. You sound like a brilliant mum and your DCs sound just fine, great even.

He is not acting reasonbly. You are not to blame for his MH issues.

You will be much better off without him. I would respond to say - you are right, we need to separate for all our sakes. Let's make it as amicable as possible.

His claims are unfair, and I would feel the need to put him straight, as a pp said, along the lines of 'I have supported you for many years as well as being a good parent to 5 children. It's a shame you don't see any of that, but it helps me see I will be better off without you.'

cheeseismydownfall · 06/09/2021 09:46

He sounds pathetic. I'm sorry, but he does.

How often on here do we read about a mother dropping everything and flouncing off to her parents, leaving the father to cope with single-handed with the DC with zero notice, because she is struggling with her mental health?

Never. Because mothers suck it up and put their children first no matter how hard things are.

How dare he criticise your parenting while simultaneously leaving you to deal with everything while he indulges himself in his latest 'breakdown'.

I'm sorry that sounds unsympathetic but it is sickening how many men use mental health as a reason to abdicate themselves of the day to day slog of parenting at a moments notice.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 06/09/2021 09:50

do you want him back?
where is he?
is he staying with family?

Friendofdennis · 06/09/2021 09:55

I think you are amazing for having supported someone with severe depression for so long. I support a family member and it can be horrendous Yes your partner may be in a depressive state now but perhaps use this time to take a long hard look at whether you want to have him back if he relents. How long has he been seeking treatment and do his meds actually work for him? Could you contact Mind and ask for advice on coping with a loved one with depression or ask where you could get further help. I am very sympathetic of your situation and it must be hard for the children too.

ChrissyPlummer · 06/09/2021 09:58

TBH, teenagers getting themselves up for school is nothing worth ‘acknowledging’. The older one could be at uni/working in less than 2 years. That said, I don’t understand the angst about them getting up (or not) on weekends, unless they get up, leave the house in a mess then swan off out leaving it for you/him to clear up. You do say in your OP that he’s right “to a degree” about them getting away with stuff.

I also left a relationship as I couldn’t cope with the Disney parenting of my OH. The issues were (eventually) more serious than you have described but I was always at the bottom of the pile. It started off small, like he wouldn’t tell his teens to put a biscuit wrapper/empty yoghurt pot in the bin. His daughter would make a cup of tea and dump the teabags in the sink; even though the bin was right next to it and he’d smile indulgently (she was 14). I’d leave a cup in the sink and all hell would break loose. It’s shit being in that position in your own home.

Apologies if it’s not that bad, but if that’s how he feels then something has gone badly wrong somewhere.

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 10:01

@MrsLargeEmbodied

do you want him back? where is he? is he staying with family?
Yes, at the moment I want him back but I think that in part is a knee jerk reaction to him leaving suddenly. There's an element of feeling helpless and having no say in it all, and the loss of the familiar. The rational part of me does see that this might be the best thing for me and the children, it's just a bit raw right now.

He's moved back in with his parents

OP posts:
Friendofdennis · 06/09/2021 10:03

When the depressed person you are trying to support says hurtful things to you it is devastating because you know that you have been doing your best for them. They are saying and doing those hurtful things from a place of illness but the impact on you is real. I think you need to consider whether you want to stay in this relationship if he asks to come back. Once again, i admire you

DeclineandFall · 06/09/2021 10:07

You've had a shock and for everything you've done for him it's a massive kick in the teeth so be kind to yourself.
You need to concentrate on the children. His depressive episodes will affect them as well. Thin skinnedness and over reaction often goes with depression territory. You end up tiptoeing round someone who's having an episode trying desperately not to tip them over the edge.
He may be better parenting them outwith the household. Your girls sound lovely and sleeping to the afternoon is nearly every teenager I know. Don't let him back.

litterbird · 06/09/2021 10:10

I am so sorry you are going through this. Believe me he has done you a great favour even if you cant see it right now. Having him out of your life and co parenting effectively you will then be able to live your life free of supporting someone with such difficult needs. You have many children that need you and now you can focus on the most important parts of your life, yourself and your children. You will come to feel free from the loneliness, free from the constant support that someone with depression needs and free from the walking on eggshells around his episodes. Be free, heal and find your happiness not his xxx good luck.

Sleepinghyena · 06/09/2021 10:16

What is the problem with teens staying up late and sleeping in at the weekend? I have three teens and they don't have a bedtime (although they have to be settled quietly in their rooms by a set time so I can sleep uninterrupted) They get up when they want at the weekend. Surely that is normal. Who is trying to impose bedtime/ get up time on them? If it is DP you need to tell him to back off.

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 10:18

I also left a relationship as I couldn’t cope with the Disney parenting of my OH. The issues were (eventually) more serious than you have described but I was always at the bottom of the pile. It started off small, like he wouldn’t tell his teens to put a biscuit wrapper/empty yoghurt pot in the bin. His daughter would make a cup of tea and dump the teabags in the sink; even though the bin was right next to it and he’d smile indulgently (she was 14). I’d leave a cup in the sink and all hell would break loose. It’s shit being in that position in your own home.

I don't know, that might be how he feels about it. They do have to clean up after themselves and will get called back if they haven't but sometimes that is met with an eye roll. I certainly wouldn't kick off at him about washing up or laundry left on the floor and the like, I'm not a neat freak on any level.

A big part of the problem is the girls will naturally spend time in my company, gravitate to whatever part of the house I'm in, chat and help out with whatever it is I might be doing (putting washing away, bathing the little ones etc.). When I'm at work they stay up in their rooms, they don't seek out DH in the same way at all so he feels unsupported by them, taken for granted?? I'm not sure I'm explaining properly ... he wanted me to address this and put some sort of consequence in place.

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pheonixrebirth · 06/09/2021 10:20

Can I ask what the atmosphere is in the house with him gone, compared to when he is home?
Because if the atmosphere is calmer, lighter, happier with him gone, then I would say that he's done you a favour.

Depression is a real issue here but maybe it's time for him to deal with it on his own now. For his benefit and more importantly you and your children.
Depression unfortunately is to often used to excuse bad behaviour.
My ex had depression but he really did use it to get out of being and adult/parent when it suited. In his words "he was a very sick man"! The reality was like my hands were tied what ever I said.

OldTinHat · 06/09/2021 10:23

I'm so very sorry you're going through this. Isn't so very strange that its always the husband who leaves?! Let him go. He doesn't deserve you or your beautiful DC. You are strong and you will get through this and will realise one day what a lucky escape you had.

pheonixrebirth · 06/09/2021 10:26

@lemonsandpumpkins

I also left a relationship as I couldn’t cope with the Disney parenting of my OH. The issues were (eventually) more serious than you have described but I was always at the bottom of the pile. It started off small, like he wouldn’t tell his teens to put a biscuit wrapper/empty yoghurt pot in the bin. His daughter would make a cup of tea and dump the teabags in the sink; even though the bin was right next to it and he’d smile indulgently (she was 14). I’d leave a cup in the sink and all hell would break loose. It’s shit being in that position in your own home.

I don't know, that might be how he feels about it. They do have to clean up after themselves and will get called back if they haven't but sometimes that is met with an eye roll. I certainly wouldn't kick off at him about washing up or laundry left on the floor and the like, I'm not a neat freak on any level.

A big part of the problem is the girls will naturally spend time in my company, gravitate to whatever part of the house I'm in, chat and help out with whatever it is I might be doing (putting washing away, bathing the little ones etc.). When I'm at work they stay up in their rooms, they don't seek out DH in the same way at all so he feels unsupported by them, taken for granted?? I'm not sure I'm explaining properly ... he wanted me to address this and put some sort of consequence in place.

But he's not their dad! 🤦‍♀️ He can't punish them for not having a close relationship with him, that's batshit?!

They are teenagers naturally close to their mum, surely he can understand that.
And it doesn't matter how long he's been in their lives, you can't force kids to fake a relationship. Totally unreasonable.

My ex partner got the huff once because my kids didn't get him Father's Day cards etc. They already have a dad and I had only been with him for 3 years.

HotSauceCommittee · 06/09/2021 10:27

Put your daughters first and let them enjoy life in their own home without this tyrant.

ChrissyPlummer · 06/09/2021 10:28

Ah, fair enough. Just trying to give an alternative perspective. It’s very hard when you don’t feel equal in your home.

DameFanny · 06/09/2021 10:37

When I'm at work they stay up in their rooms, they don't seek out DH in the same way at all so he feels unsupported by them, taken for granted?? I'm not sure I'm explaining properly ... he wanted me to address this and put some sort of consequence in place.

Ooh, that's dodgy. He wants your girls to be responsible for supporting him? He thinks they should be running around after him just because?

You know, it's possible to have mental health problems and be a screaming narcissist. In fact being a narcissist and not having the world rearrange itself around you can cause depression...

Leaving may be the best thing he's ever done for you

angieloumc · 06/09/2021 10:46

Wow, he sounds awful. I understand that his MH may be poor but to expect your DD's to 'support' him is ludicrous. He's not their dad and even if he were they're not responsible for an adult.
You sound extremely competent and I'm sure you will be able to move forward on your own with your DC without him. He sounds more trouble than he's worth, you've done your very best and if he doesn't realise or acknowledge that then it's his problem.

lemonsandpumpkins · 06/09/2021 10:48

@ChrissyPlummer

Ah, fair enough. Just trying to give an alternative perspective. It’s very hard when you don’t feel equal in your home.
I'm grateful of the different viewpoints, it helps to try and see from others perspectives.

I do think you've touched on something about the inequality, feeling the least important. I might not agree with him on it but if that's how he feels I'd does go some way to explain his reaction.

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EL8888 · 06/09/2021 10:54

I am afraid it does all sound like it is for the best. His expectations of teenagers sounds pretty unrealistic to me. It does sound like it is all about him, him continuing to message you is strange as he’s already stated what he allegedly wants to do

holrosea · 06/09/2021 10:56

OP, your daughters sound love. Even if the occacional eye roll is annoying, they seek you out, spend time in your company and generally help with whatever you're doing. This sounds rather like how I am with my mum as an adult. I adore my mum and recently spent a few weeks with my parents durng which I often found myself folding laundry or making tea or generally pottering about. It's often a great time to just chat, too.

Honestly, although your DP could hardly expect this same relationship with his step kids (and I am trying to step parent so am negotiating these waves myself), has he done anything at all to encourage a close and friendly relationship with them?

He seems to think that they should come to him (not the case in my experience) and that they should sort of look after him (not the case with parenting). They have no obligation to him, and if their experience of him is being nagged for getting up or seeing him complain about them to their mum, I am hardly surprised that they aren't very interested in him. Not that you even thought it, but your children are NOT the problem here.

Magenta82 · 06/09/2021 10:59

It sounds like a really hard situation OP and must feel like a slap in the face.

Considering how much support you have given him and how one way it has all been it might actually be easier without him on a practical level. But emotionally it is really hard, you need time to process and grieve. Hugs

Planty13 · 06/09/2021 11:00

As sad as it is OP I think you need to leave him to get on with it and support him in this (packing up some stuff for him and making arrangements for your younger children) I wouldn’t engage in any conversation that is too deep and it sounds like either his mental state isn’t ready for that and honestly it may very well be the best thing for you and all your children.

Your teenagers sound great and they are at the last point in their lives where they realistically CAN go to bed late and sleep all day if that’s what they want. It’s super normal and I would let them enjoy it. It also cannot be easy for them too see their step father behaving like this, mental health issues or not. You shouldn’t be walking around on eggshells Flowers

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