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I need help ending an affair.

148 replies

Anonymousthatsme · 25/08/2021 09:09

I know I’m a bad person. But I need help. Please don’t judge, although I’m pretty sure I deserve it.

Me and my partner live together and have a 3 year old DS , we also own our house jointly, but are not married.

My DP was constantly miserable and I felt like I was walking on eggshells with him all the time, he was always snapping at me and making me feel on edge frequently.
He is a good person though and would never be unfaithful to me, he’s also an amazing dad to our son and goes above and beyond.
Shortly before lockdown last year he told me he didn’t know if he wanted to get married (we were engaged) because he wanted me to ‘change’ first. So that was very hurtful to be honest. I felt unloved and unappreciated. Anyway none of this justifies what happened, but I’m just building the scene.

I started talking to a man online, we met through a mutual interest group, not a dating site or anything.
It started friendly and to be honest, I was feeling so lonely and isolated that it was refreshing to be able to talk to someone who seemed genuinely interested in me. A lot of the time when talking to my DP he didn’t seem interested in what I had to say and was more concerned with playing on the computer game on his phone.
So me and the OM started talking daily, it become a routine I was looking forward too, however at this point I’d never met him.
About a month or so after we started talking we organised to meet up. In a public place and just for a drink.
The first time we saw each other, it sounds cliched, but I felt familiarity instantly and any worries I had about meeting him just melted away. We had a really nice time, laughing and joking together, he was a real gentleman holding the door open for me etc.
Anyway, fast forward a few months later and we’d met a couple of times more and had ended up kissing, he started sending me cards and gifts in the post that I obviously had to hide from my DP. Then the second lockdown happened (Christmas one) so we couldn’t meet for about 3 months, it was horrible and I felt suicidal during that time. My DP was awful to live with during that time as he was working from home and found it really stressful, so was constantly in a bad mood.
Me and OM started writing each other letters, which he sprayed with his aftershave and I sprayed with my perfume.
The next part I’m even more ashamed of, we started sending each other naughty pictures and sexting most nights when my DP and DS were asleep.
Me and DP hadn’t been intimate together for about 3 months at that point.
Anyway shortly after lockdown ended me and OM met up and we did some stuff in the car, which I’m not proud of obviously, but at the time there was a lot of sexual tension and it just happened.
A few weeks later, I told my DP I was going to stay with a friend for the night, and I ended up staying with OM for the first time and we did end up having sex. I felt so guilty in the morning, going back and seeing my DP and DS.
Fast forward to the present, OM says he loves me and wants us to be together. FYI he is single and doesn’t have any children. So there isn’t another party involved.
My head and my heart are saying two different things, the last 6 weeks or so over the summer holidays, DP has been making more of an effort and we have been getting on better, but I do have these strong feelings for OM which I can’t deny. It’s like an addiction, we talk daily and even when I tried not to talk to him for a couple of days, neither of us could manage it and we started messaging and FaceTiming again, because of the distance between us (about 3 hours drive) we only see each other now and again, but the fact is I’m scared. Scared that my DP will find out and I’ll be left with nothing. I am also financially dependent on him as I’m not in work at the moment, although I’m currently job searching.
I also rely heavily on his family to help me out with DS as my family don’t live nearby.
I’m full of guilt and spoke to OM last night telling him I think we need to end it and he got very upset and kept saying how much he loves me and how he wants us to be together.
I can’t imagine my life without him now , but equally I don’t want to further ruin the life I have here with my DP and DS, not to mention what our family and friends would think of me.

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HoneyBeeHappy · 25/08/2021 17:08

It’s so predictable when the pro-affair people wheel out the old ‘things aren’t black and white’ phrase. In affairs they are.
Except things aren’t black and white because no-one knows what goes on in someone else’s marriage. Of course affairs aren’t ok, but that doesn’t mean that everyone who has an affair is a cheating bastard/slut and that the cheated-on partner was the perfect example of a partner until the bastard had an affair and blew their world apart.

When someone has an affair it seems that every other wrong about the relationship is forgotten, and the cheated-on partner is sainted and all their past wrongs are forgotten.

I won’t justify having an affair, but neither will I accept full responsibility for the breakdown of my marriage.

My eXH isolated me from my friends and family. He prevented me from going back to work by finding a job which he had to commute to, meaning that I had no other option than to stay at home because he didn’t want the DC in childcare.

he isolated me from friends by always having a last minute reason why I couldn’t see them.

He gaslighted me by telling me he knew where I was and who I was with. He had tracked my phone, signed into all my social media, and when he didn’t find anything there despite following for months and months he put keyloggers on my computer and recording devices in the house.

He would tell me he wasn’t going to be home until a certain time then show up much earlier thinking he would catch me with someone else.

When my 1st DC was 6 weeks old he told me we had to have sex before my 6 week checkup to make sure that things were ok, I didn’t want to, but he told me it would be happening when the baby went for a nap, and it did. I thought I was in the wrong for not wanting to, it’s only recently that I have realised exactly what that meant.

There is a lot more but I think that’s enough, and it all happened systemically over a period of about 12 years. The bad times are few to begin with and you think that they’re just blips, and so you settle down and they become more frequent but by then it’s normal.

He used to tell me he wouldn’t go out with me dressed in a certain way “I don’t want to be seen with someone dressed like that,” Ironically he had an affair fairly early into our relationship but he gaslighted me into thinking I’d imagined it all.

When I met OM it was like a light switch had gone on, and I realised that relationships weren’t meant to be like this. We’d actually already talked about splitting up because the control had become far too noticeable and I was miserable, but he’d moved us away from all my support network so he could be sure I had nowhere to go.

Then I got chatting to OM and we became close, and then met up, once, and slept together. I never slept with my husband again after that, and I allowed the relationship to fall apart. He found out about the affair after we’d decided to split, and said he would take me back, but by then I’d realised I could escape, and suddenly there was a valid reason, even though that meant everyone would support him and not me.

And a lot of people did. Suddenly he was a saint who had never done anything wrong and I was the bitch who had cheated. And I suppose I was. But he certainly hadn’t never done anything wrong, and our relationship certainly hadn’t been a blissfully happy one until I had fucked another man.

And as time went on people told me that they’d realised what he could be like, even his own family who although they obviously are his family, refused to cut contact with me, because in his mother’s words “there are two sides to every story.”

I accept full responsibility for the affair I had, and I regret it and would never do it again.

But I don’t accept responsibility for the wrongs which occurred in my marriage. And I imagine that even on the relationships boards when posters find out that their partners are having affairs, there are likely some whose behaviour has played a part in their partner finding solis elsewhere.

That doesn’t make anyone “pro affair.”

HairyMaryMyCanary · 25/08/2021 17:09

So...

Finish with the non-husband. You shouldn't have to wonder/worry if he wants you or not. The relationship is dead.
Establish a place for yourself and your child.
Stop relying on his family for childcare.
Finish with the affair partner. He was ok for then, but not for now and not for the rest of your life.
Spend some time without men. Have counselling to work out who you are. There's absolutely no point in telling yourself how bad you are for having an affair. You've been unfaithful, own it.
The future is bright, but you have to ditch the dead weights.

mildlymiffed · 25/08/2021 17:10

In the first instance you need to come clean to your husband. In all honesty, he might not want to stay with you anyway. And this is his decision to make. Even if you did decide you want to stay with him forever now, could you carry the guilt?

Then just be single for a bit. If it's meant to be with the other guy, then he can wait a while whilst you sort your head out.

You've treated your husband abysmally. Let him heal, and do yourself a favour and be alone for a bit. Maybe if you start valuing yourself a bit more, then you'll be able to value others a bit more too.

CornishTiger · 25/08/2021 17:15

End both relationships. Sort out your housing situation, your self esteem and mental health.

If the OM is genuine he’ll understand that you need time to sort yourself out before you start a proper new relationship

Gilda152 · 25/08/2021 17:17

@CirqueDeMorgue looking after your own children isn't childcare...

Gilda152 · 25/08/2021 17:18

@CirqueDeMorgue but we get it, you're ok with affairs and using people, lying and acting without integrity. And that's great, for you.

Gilda152 · 25/08/2021 17:20

@HoneyBeeHappy it's not that the other person's wrongs are forgotten, it's that it's not a race to the bottom.

All credibility you might have had about how awful another person behaves goes out the window when you match that energy with your own shoddy immature behaviour.

Ryan121 · 25/08/2021 17:21

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CirqueDeMorgue · 25/08/2021 17:22

[quote Gilda152]@CirqueDeMorgue but we get it, you're ok with affairs and using people, lying and acting without integrity. And that's great, for you.[/quote]
😂😂😂

Ok Gilda

WanderingButNotLostYet · 25/08/2021 17:23

End the relationship with your DP. It’s not going anywhere and it’s making you both miserable.

Don’t move in with OM. At the very least, take time to be in your own. See him if you have to but the most important thing is for you to find your feet first so the ‘oh I’m so in love with him’ has nothing to do with the fact you are looking at an escape route from your relationship.

And take it VERY VERY slowly for the sake of you ds. He doesn’t need to deal with another breakup after seeing his parents separate.

HoneyBeeHappy · 25/08/2021 17:25

@ Gilda152 except that’s not how it plays out.

If I’d come on here to talk about my marriage without the affair in the equation, I would have been given nothing but support and would have been encouraged to leave. And in an ideal world that’s what would have happened.

But if I’d come here to talk about my marriage and had admitted I was having/had had an affair I would be told that obviously my talk about the abusive marriage I was in was obviously a script to justify the fact that I am a cheating bitch.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. But acknowledging that affairs happen and that they are rarely black and white doesn’t mean you’re justifying them.

3luckystars · 25/08/2021 17:28

You are not just cheating on your partner but also your child too. You are making a mockery of your family.

Stop it and go get some counselling, forgive your partner and put this behind you. Put your efforts into your family and cut all contact with this other man.

Eviethyme · 25/08/2021 17:33

It's just all excuses. There is no excuse for cheating.

It's all about you and you trying to justify it. It's all fake.

Leave your dp he deserves more.

gannett · 25/08/2021 17:33

What he’d asked me to change before we could get married was allowing him more time to do things, because at the time I was suffering with bad PND I didn’t want to be alone with our son and so if he wanted to go out with a friend or go for a jog or bike ride I’d get really upset (looking back this was terrible of me but I wasn’t in control of my MH or emotions at the time).

I'm sympathetic to your mental health struggles but your partner was absolutely reasonable to ask you to change this. I'm actually a bit shocked that you'd prevent him doing such little things.

3luckystars · 25/08/2021 17:37

If you decide to end your relationship with your partner then fair enough but this is not the way forward.

Also those men buying flowers etc. It’s usually because of an apology.

ArthurApples · 25/08/2021 17:43

How much is your poor mental health driving your behaviour? You have a lot going on mh wise, have you shared all this with your peer support group, what do you think they would say? It doesn't sound like you are making decisions that are safe emotionally, for yourself or your child, that's a shame. Secret relationships are addictive, infatuated, chemical highs of contact, ego boosts, sex, all the feelings that you keep feeding, but its not real, or ok, or sustainable, red flags about your behaviour. You can decide between two men, you can decide to make a go of it as a family and leave your OM, or you can leave. Pinning your future on a secret affair is ludicrous if you are also struggling with your mental health, seriously, what will you tell your child as they get older? Leave if you are unhappy, or work on your relationship with DP, as a team.
You are not acting in a way that supports your recovery from PND, or that is safe for someone with BPD, you aren't doing anything to look after yourself and be responsible as a parent or as an individual. You are choosing to do harmful things, because they are so exciting. Been there, done that, this OM isn't a good catch, the two of you aren't doing the right thing, loved up bliss, there's a great post further back about everyone around you not automatically accepting this new relationship, thats so true.
End it, admit to someone around you who is supporting your mh health that you are doing crazy things and get some support, no one around you will be happy for you when it all comes out and it will, eventually. Take control of yourself, behave.

MrsMaizel · 25/08/2021 17:49

Do you think this OM will be happy to restrict all his activities to help you and financially support you and your child?

CornishTiger · 25/08/2021 17:56

@ArthurApples

How much is your poor mental health driving your behaviour? You have a lot going on mh wise, have you shared all this with your peer support group, what do you think they would say? It doesn't sound like you are making decisions that are safe emotionally, for yourself or your child, that's a shame. Secret relationships are addictive, infatuated, chemical highs of contact, ego boosts, sex, all the feelings that you keep feeding, but its not real, or ok, or sustainable, red flags about your behaviour. You can decide between two men, you can decide to make a go of it as a family and leave your OM, or you can leave. Pinning your future on a secret affair is ludicrous if you are also struggling with your mental health, seriously, what will you tell your child as they get older? Leave if you are unhappy, or work on your relationship with DP, as a team. You are not acting in a way that supports your recovery from PND, or that is safe for someone with BPD, you aren't doing anything to look after yourself and be responsible as a parent or as an individual. You are choosing to do harmful things, because they are so exciting. Been there, done that, this OM isn't a good catch, the two of you aren't doing the right thing, loved up bliss, there's a great post further back about everyone around you not automatically accepting this new relationship, thats so true. End it, admit to someone around you who is supporting your mh health that you are doing crazy things and get some support, no one around you will be happy for you when it all comes out and it will, eventually. Take control of yourself, behave.
This is the best advice I’ve ever seen on Mumsnet
mildlymiffed · 25/08/2021 18:05

@CornishTiger I was just about to say the same thing.

Thewookiemustgo · 25/08/2021 18:08

I’m not happy in my relationship - hence the affair.

Eh?

Plenty of people are not happy or have been unhappy in their relationships and don’t have affairs.

I’m not happy in my relationship- hence I’m honest with my partner and we try to work it out together.

I’m not happy in my relationship, -hence I leave when I am able to and wait until I am free again before I sleep with someone else.

The truth is:

I have a poor choice of coping style when faced with issues in my relationships hence I choose to lie and find illicit comfort elsewhere to avoid dealing with it/ avoid being broke.

I put my own needs before anyone else’s - hence I can’t see the problem with keeping two men dangling whilst I weigh up the possible continuation of a life with my affair partner versus not being broke.

Yes, these are harsh responses but they are the cold hard truth. Adult life is like that. You can’t try to sidestep the tough issues as a responsible adult by blaming your poor choices on the behaviour of others. And you have to make a conscious decision not to do that.

The irony is that if you live honestly and with integrity, you can look in the mirror every morning and see the person you really want to be, and that’s actually where true happiness lies. It comes from you, your integrity and self respect, not money or other people.

Pbelle · 25/08/2021 18:23

Leave them both. It's crystal clear. Staying with someone who wouldn't marry you unless you changed is not going to make you happy. Leaving for someone who is really a fantasy will not work out.
Start planning your exit strategy, what is best for your child and the most amicable way to split from your partner. Up to you if you confess. Weigh up the consequences, only you know what your DP is like well enough to assess whether that would help. Unlikely IMO. You were unhappy enough to stray. Whatever reasons caused that are the reasons that should drive you to leave.
Good luck.

ArthurApples · 25/08/2021 18:28

@CornishTiger bitter experience. I stayed, recovered, took responsibility. Its a delusion. It isn't happening because of mental illness, but its the same as drinking or taking drugs, if you are already vulnerable and not participating in all the activities, choices and responsibilities that come with active recovery then you are choosing to hurt yourself and your family who love you. You aren't safe guarding yourself or your child or even your DP who at the time you think is vile because he's struggling with what a dick you are being by making your illness worse. Go and see your GP OP, tell someone.

Deedee121 · 25/08/2021 18:32

@ArthurApples

How much is your poor mental health driving your behaviour? You have a lot going on mh wise, have you shared all this with your peer support group, what do you think they would say? It doesn't sound like you are making decisions that are safe emotionally, for yourself or your child, that's a shame. Secret relationships are addictive, infatuated, chemical highs of contact, ego boosts, sex, all the feelings that you keep feeding, but its not real, or ok, or sustainable, red flags about your behaviour. You can decide between two men, you can decide to make a go of it as a family and leave your OM, or you can leave. Pinning your future on a secret affair is ludicrous if you are also struggling with your mental health, seriously, what will you tell your child as they get older? Leave if you are unhappy, or work on your relationship with DP, as a team. You are not acting in a way that supports your recovery from PND, or that is safe for someone with BPD, you aren't doing anything to look after yourself and be responsible as a parent or as an individual. You are choosing to do harmful things, because they are so exciting. Been there, done that, this OM isn't a good catch, the two of you aren't doing the right thing, loved up bliss, there's a great post further back about everyone around you not automatically accepting this new relationship, thats so true. End it, admit to someone around you who is supporting your mh health that you are doing crazy things and get some support, no one around you will be happy for you when it all comes out and it will, eventually. Take control of yourself, behave.
This.
ThePenIsBlue · 25/08/2021 18:43

Stop letting another man put his penis in you. 🙄 HTH

PurpleOkapi · 25/08/2021 19:04

If you can't bring yourself to stop shagging other people, then at least have the decency to tell your partner so he can decide for himself whether he wants to continue paying your way while you do it.

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