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I don't trust my own judgement on fighting for this relationship

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Perfectlyadjusted · 25/07/2021 13:41

Been with my partner (is he still?) for 10-ish years. We have three children together aged 5 down to 1. IF we consider that being a god dad can be separate to being a good partner, he is a good dad. Lots of fun with them, very engaged in their development, family-oriented as in he takes them to his family, constantly thinking of them, homeschooling through lockdown, cooking for them (btw he does a deep clean every so often) he just loves them.

We had a great relationship for none of those years. The last year has been awful. He runs his own business and Covid scuppered a lot of his plans and made life very difficult for him. I had a baby at the beginning of lockdown, we also moved house.

So, about a year ago we had an argument. Nothing unforgivable, really not a vicious argument at all, but I think with the business being difficult etc, he was very sensitive. We made up, but actually he didn't. His feelings festered and he kind of ex-communicated me. This is lockdown, I can't see my family, newborn, two other kids, homeschooling etc. It was such a toxic environment. No arguments, just like a Cold War, he was impenetrable. Like stone. He switched off from me completely. he doesn't do anything actively mean, but he's ceased doing anything positive, too, if you see what I mean. he's taken away all of the positives, and I feel their loss, and those positives were why I was with him. There's very little care or concern for me right now, and close to zero affection (though sex is ok, we are doing this again now after nothing for maybe 9 months).

We are not married. Before the birth of our first child I wasn't bothered about this, since then I have been. His own parents remain married, but his dad was in and out, I don't think he has a good model of marriage (my parents are still together through their ups and downs, just life stuff, a normal marriage I expect). I'm very close to my family, too. Now I wonder whether he never really loved me, or was committed, is this why we aren't married actually? Would that have made a difference/ would he have tried harder rather than to let things fester from over a year ago until he felt absolutely nothing for me?

More recently we have had a few heart to hearts and he says he feels numb about me. Doesn't feel any romantic love anymore. He can't help it. Says he doesn't know if someone has changed in him completely and that he can't feel any happiness, or love or good feeling about anything apart from the children. He planned to move out to change the routine, pattern of things, sort out his head, get therapy (individual, not couples), but he couldn't bring himself to in the end, I think. The reasons he gives are the argument we had, he can't really get over what I said, he says he has spoken to other men about it and they say it's a small thing just move on, but he can't. He says that other things have grated on him since then, too and he just feels bad about me.

I think he is depressed honestly. But he is very invested in his business, works around 16 hours a day, has done for many years now. He takes kids to school etc, then to the office, home around midnight, 1 o clock. That was eating into our relationship anyway, but at this juncture, I can see how we can fix things when he is actually proposing more distance. He says he wants to see if things can improve between us, but that he is not getting on well with opening up in therapy (they feel like strangers). He can't talk to me about everything, he needs an impartial person. I also feel like 'oh great, you get to go and get some space from family to repair yourself, IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERTYONE'. When I'm a single mum to three kids where is my reprieve? My respite?

I can see he is making little baby steps, but I really feel I am doing more to try to repair our relationship, and I do think 'why, when he doesn't even love me? He drove us over the cliff and didn't even tell me how he felt for a year and I just limped on thinking the business is bad, be supportive'.

I so much want to just say it's over, give myself a rest from trying, find someone who likes me (no matter love!).

On the other hand I think of the kids, they love their dad so much. And, what if he is in a very bad patch, mid life thing, depressed, shouldn't I be more understanding and supportive now.

It just feels like the woman is the one fine with everything and she always has to be strong and what about us though?!

Am I just being a pushover, kind to the point of stupidity. The man says he no longer loves me for Pete's sake. I'm not sure I can keep up romantic feeling for him when it's clearly unrequited.

Good lord, what a mess.

OP posts:
CandyLeBonBon · 30/07/2021 22:46

Fwiw @Perfectlyadjusted

I get it.

Onthedunes · 31/07/2021 03:16

Op I'm sorry if I offended you, that was not intended, my apologies. I think I'm listening to the tone of your posts and hearing a detatchment, and a defiance against him.

Maybe that is self preservation, you have stated there was no betrayal on your part for him to be so offended by you, so why this change a year ago ?

If this man has seriously just checked out for no reason then that is incredibly cruel and heartless towards you, but you appear very understanding of this. Are you fearful of him ending the relationship?

It seems this choice is in his hands and you are meerly waiting for the inevitable outcome. If that is the case, no wonder you are resentful and feel contempt towards him.

He sounds as though he is palming you off with excuses but no definite answers, have you actually asked him directly "are you seeing someone"?

You cannot live like this waiting for someone to pull the plug on your life, I think you need answers.

If he is testing the waters elsewhere you need to know where you stand, I would investigate. This is not normal and people do not tend to destroy their lives unless there is a promise of something else on the horizon.

I hope this is not the case, but if he has stopped giving you emotional support and love, whatever the cause, you must stop doing anything for him, he doesn't deserve your care.

Start putting your foot down and stating what you need and if he does not step up then start talks about separating and child maintenance as it sounds like he would like to keep you in this limbo until he decides to make a move.

An awful way to live and very bad for your health.

Perfectlyadjusted · 31/07/2021 09:15

He says a year ago he thought something along the lines of 'I'm killing myself at work everyday for my family so if she can say she can say that just then I'll just focus on the kids and not her'. It started that way, and it snowballed over lockdown to include lots of niggles that didn't bother him before but in the lockdown situation with a newborn, money worries etc it just drained his feelings for me and things like the state of the house (my house is fine, though!) and not cooking enough (he's never home for dinner, the incentive for me to cook anything other than what the children like is so low, his cultural cuisine takes me ages to make, and I just felt like a take out business as he would just leave it in the fired for his lunch a few days after'. Plus he was treating me with less and less care. I understand now that actually these things made him feel like our home was hostile.

Now I've told him that as he is making no effort it is better for him to go away on his business trip and not return to the family home.

Since then he has been saying he is committed to therapy, but that in all honestly he is scared of trying because he's scared of failing and he really does feel nothing for me. That last part is BS, as I've said before he had extremely strong negative feelings for me and which became so severe he numbed. He will have to thaw one day and when he does he will face those same negative emotions about me but this time when in therapy the therapist will explore that with him and I expect a whole Pandora's box about his own childhood, business pressures, etc will come tumbling out. I don't blame him for being scared. He might very well avoid doing this work on himself and our family fail instead. He wouldn't be the first person who is too scared to face their demons.

But yes, I am no longer waiting. It's mostly sad for him, and then also the kids. I am probably losing the least here. I will still have my beautiful children everyday and I will have the potential to find someone with more emotional capacity, or indeed have a bit of fun trying, which I sorely need now.

Thanks

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CraftyYankee · 31/07/2021 12:15

It is sad but at a certain point there is only so much that you can or should do. Sounds like you have made some decisions on where those lines are and are comfortable with that. Not happy, but doing the right thing for you. The rest depends on him. Good luck.

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