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Should I tell my Mum that her new partner is controlling?

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jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 00:53

My Mum has a new partner. They've been dating for a couple of months, and she's seemed very happy, and I was genuinely pleased for her, as I know she longs for companionship.
However, I finally met him last week (staying with Mum for a couple of weeks as we hadn't seen her for almost a year), and I am really concerned. He's clearly love-bombing her, in my opinion (and her best friend's, we spoke yesterday). They don't live together, but he has come over every day, often unexpectedly, so I've not been able to spend any one-on-one time with my Mum. She asked him to come less often so she can spend some alone time with me and her grandkids, and he said it's not fair to push him out because we're around.
I've noticed in general that he can be controlling (too many little instances to list) and doesn't respect boundaries, and her best friend has seen it too. I'm cutting my stay short because I can't bear to be around him any longer. She did say, 'it's because he's always here, isn't it?' I only told her that I'm happy for her, but he's still a stranger to me, and I can't spend every day with him, it's a bit much. She said she was sad that I'm 'taking her grandkids away', but I'll be staying nearby, so she can visit (every day if she wants to) whilst we're in town.

He called during her lunch break today (she was WFH); if he's not physically present, he video calls constantly; he complained about me because I didn't let him take my kids alone to the park yesterday. I could hear my Mum saying, 'well, she's just met you, any parent would do the same'. But she kept apologising profusely and reassuring him that she trusts him and loves him. The conversation was weird, manipulative and intense. She walked past me shortly after with tears in her eyes. I asked if she was okay, and she said, 'oh yes, just my manager stressing me out' - she didn't know I eavesdropped overheard.

I don't know what to do. I want to speak up. I considered just sending her a link to the definition of love bombing. My husband says if I say anything to her, it will look like I'm just jealous that her relationship means I get less time with her (I'm not) and that I have to wait for the 'right time'. But surely there's no right time to tell someone you love that you are worried they are in an abusive relationship. He also said she's a grown up and I should leave her to it. On one hand, this makes sense, but she's my Mum - it feels wrong to be this worried (I can't sleep!) and not say anything.

Does anyone have any advice?

OP posts:
Tulips15 · 24/07/2021 00:57

I would tell her your concerns OP.

I hope she understands and can see how awful he sounds from an outside perspective

spotcheck · 24/07/2021 00:59

Oooh......

Please don't infantalise your mum.
I also wouldn't alienate her by turning his behaviour into a big thing - she may cling to him longer.

Has she been single long? Does she normally have good boundaries?

Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2021 00:59

I would absolutely, 100% tell your mum exactly how you feel. Calmly, with no added drama, but tell her what you witnessed and why it's so concerning. I would even send her articles about controlling partners and love bombing. You sound like you have a good relationship with your mum, and sometimes we need to tell the people we love some hard truths. This is one of those times, before she gets anymore involved with him.

Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2021 01:01

@spotcheck

Oooh......

Please don't infantalise your mum.
I also wouldn't alienate her by turning his behaviour into a big thing - she may cling to him longer.

Has she been single long? Does she normally have good boundaries?

Talking to someone very close to you about legitimate concerns is not infantalising them. FFS.
MorriseysGladioli · 24/07/2021 01:03

I would tell her, just the once, and then it's out in the open.
What she chooses to do about it is up to her.
He does sound a massive tool, though.

Sssloou · 24/07/2021 01:10

Well he achieved his aim didn’t he?

He got you cleared out of the way.

I am sorry about this especially since you haven’t seen her for so long and also for your DCs.

I would as PP said choose some careful and simple words to communicate what you have seen, heard and experienced, suggest that it’s controlling and give her some support links.

You can point out the red flags, and indicate the pattern of behavior - she may not do anything now but she will be informed - forewarned and forearmed - so if this repeats she knows what’s she’s looking at.

You can’t do any more than this - just keep an open non judgmental stance.

What’s her relationship history? Is she vulnerable?

jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 01:11

@spotcheck I'm not infantalising her, I just don't want my lovely Mum to end up with an abuser. She hasn't had good boundaries historically, although I thought this has changed after lots of therapy and introspection.

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jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 01:13

Thank you @Tulips15 @Aquamarine1029 @MorriseysGladioli
I appreciate the replies. I don't feel bad anymore for wanting to say something. I'll try to get some time alone with her and tell her my concerns.

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spotcheck · 24/07/2021 01:13

But OP
Is this normal for her? Has she had healthy relationships?

Those kind of conversations can go very south, very quickly. I'm saying the OP may need to tread very carefully. The conversation may be more receptively received if it came from her friend, rather than her daughter. This could really embarass her, which could then make her defensive.

jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 01:22

@Sssloou

Well he achieved his aim didn’t he?

He got you cleared out of the way.

I am sorry about this especially since you haven’t seen her for so long and also for your DCs.

I would as PP said choose some careful and simple words to communicate what you have seen, heard and experienced, suggest that it’s controlling and give her some support links.

You can point out the red flags, and indicate the pattern of behavior - she may not do anything now but she will be informed - forewarned and forearmed - so if this repeats she knows what’s she’s looking at.

You can’t do any more than this - just keep an open non judgmental stance.

What’s her relationship history? Is she vulnerable?

Yes I think so. I don't want project, but it does feel like he's deliberately being an obstacle - even though he presents as very nice. I got talking to her best friend by chance yesterday (bumped into her), and she said she's stopped spending so much time with my Mum because she can't have a free conversation with her, because he hovers around constantly. He's overbearing.
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Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2021 01:24

This man is doing his best to isolate your mother. It is very, very concerning. Before you speak to her, really think about what you want to say, make notes if necessary. Arm yourself with as much support information as you can.

QueenBee52 · 24/07/2021 01:24

Speak up speak up Now ...

Direct her to the Freedom Programme

Can you check his background ?

Fiddliestofsticks · 24/07/2021 01:27

You and your mum's best friend could maybe do it together. No sit down lecture or anything intense. Just, go together to speak to her. Simply raise your concerns and give her the definitions/why it is abuse. Tell her you both love her and you'll be there for her, but that you really want her to think about the relationship.

DramaAlpaca · 24/07/2021 01:30

You can, and should, tell her. Hopefully she'll listen.

RogueMnerHidesUnderABigHat · 24/07/2021 01:31

My lovely mum is in a relationship with a cunt. My dad died 9 yrs ago.

My mum has never been happier.

He's a cunt.

My mum won't countenance any criticism of him at all.
I drip feed it in, and won't let him allow me to be phased out.
It's not brilliant, but its all I have.

I will not let him allow me to be estranged from her.

Good luck Flowers

QueenBee52 · 24/07/2021 01:35

OP @RogueMnerHidesUnderABigHat
makes a very valid point..

Do not let this person isolate you from your Mum... please 🌸

jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 01:35

Thank you @RogueMnerHidesUnderABigHat
Sounds difficult. Good on you for sticking in there. Flowers

I fear I'll have to persevere and do the same if she's not receptive when I speak to her.

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jesusandjollof · 24/07/2021 01:37

Thanks @QueenBee52 I'll tread carefully when I speak to her

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Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2021 01:41

If you can, I would have a PI do a background check on this man. He is waving so many red flags it's shocking. Isolating your mum, wanting to take your children alone, the constant phone calls, it's really fucking scary. He has abuser/stalker written all over him.

Justilou1 · 24/07/2021 04:35

I’d be trying to find out as much about his living and financial/work situation as possible. I bet all his exes are psychos too. Does he have kids he never sees? He sounds like a textbook cocklodger in the making.

Bogeyes · 24/07/2021 04:46

He may be after your mum's money. He may want to move in with her. He may be drawn to your children. He sounds like a real controller. Not sure what you can do about your mum.

Onthemaintrunkline · 24/07/2021 05:14

I don’t know this man, but from what you’ve said he gives me the creeps. He’s way too much, and his need to be centre stage with your Mum is extremely worrying. Huge, massive concerns here, he’s lacking in any sensitivity, selfishly ignoring or simply not understanding the very basic need of daughters to spend time alone with their Mums. Your Mum sounds as if shes torn - obviously pandering to him, whilst realising she’s not getting the time with you she’d like. I’m concerned the longer she’s with him, you and other friends/siblings will be gradually alienated. Speak to her outlining your concerns as soon as poss.

JacquelineCarlyle · 24/07/2021 05:24

No advice Op but wanted to wish you well as I agree with the others (& your interpretation) that his behaviour is controlling.

Even if the conversation with your mum doesn't go well, don't let him push you away & hang in there no matter what.

PurpleSapphire · 24/07/2021 05:57

Can you check him out first? Clare's Law I think it's called. I would definately have a word with her at some point but it's likely she wont be able to see it right now. Him hovering around preventing her from having a private conversation with anyone is a huge red flag and it seems he's already managed to isolate her from her friend. You're right to take it seriously, just tread carefully in case he twists her into thinking you're a jealous troublemaker.

Wjevtvha · 24/07/2021 05:58

I would definitely talk to her about it; don’t make her feel like she has to choose as that will play into what he wants as he’ll use that against you. Explain your worries, tell her that you love her and you’ll be there for her if she wants to talk or wants any support.
I completely understand why you want to cut short your visit but you’ll be playing into what he wants as he wants to isolate your mum and use anything to criticise you