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I am so trapped

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

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Cornfieldrainbows · 17/07/2021 09:54

I do want to leave but I’m still so tangled up in what everyone else wants that I’m struggling.
How can I go on holiday with them for a week? It makes me feel like giving up now.
My dc are great, I constantly feel guilty that they aren’t enough for me to stay when they should be.

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LannieDuck · 17/07/2021 10:32

What reason does he give for not doing any of the housework despite you both having FT jobs?

Have you tried being really clear (in a practical sense) about what you need him to do? i.e. not just 'I need you to do more', but 'I need you to cook dinner 3x a week, and do all the hoovering'?

... or is there a cultural element here which means the housework is all women's work, regardless of whether you have a job? (I ask because you say your Mum chose your husband.)

If he won't consider doing it himself, could you propose he organises and pays other people to do his share of the housework? i.e. he a cleaner and laundry service. Also maybe a Nanny service to do drop-off/pick-up for the kids.

Be really clear that if he can't find a solution, your next step is divorce.

LannieDuck · 17/07/2021 10:35

And please stop worrying about what everyone else wants.

This is your life. You only get one of them. Why spend it pleasing others at the expense of your own happiness?

Do you think your husband is busy doing what everyone else wants him to do, or is he pleasing himself?

heyday · 17/07/2021 11:17

There are 100 possible scenarios, both positive and negative ones...if we keep dwelling on the ifs and buts then we become paralysed and unable to function. The points your mother highlights are all possibilities and are worthy of consideration, amongst many others. She may also be anxious about the thought of you and your DC going to live with her. The ray of sunshine will come from you getting hard facts about where you stand legally as to regards housing, divorce, splitting of assets, finances, possibility of benefits etc. It is vital that you have this information to hand. Being a single parent is hard, believe me, but often it is even harder to be in an unhappy marriage. Get all your vital information together...this will take time...and then you can step forward into the unknowns of tomorrow with a wealth of facts and knowledge to guide you rather than just peoples' emotional opinions. Knowledge is power.

Cornfieldrainbows · 18/07/2021 13:48

We are due to go away in a fortnight for a week and I just don’t want to go but cannot see a way of not going. I’m half hoping for covid.
The thing is there’s always something - it’s this holiday, then we’re booked away again at the end of the summer, then it’ll be settling the dc back at school and then dd’s birthday and then Christmas and time just goes and goes.
There is never a time.

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Sakurami · 18/07/2021 15:18

I remember I had one last holiday. We had been split up but still living together and the kids didn't know. Having to pretend was horrible especially because he thought that we hadn't really split up (took him about 4 months to really get it, he thought I would change my mind).

TwilightSkies · 18/07/2021 15:31

time just goes and goes.
There is never a time.

There’s never a ‘good’ time, there’s always going to be commitments and events going on.
You really just have to bite the bullet and do it. Maybe you aren’t at that place yet. But as time passes you will keep suffering and being sad, that won’t go away or get better. His behaviour will become unbearable.

Cornfieldrainbows · 21/07/2021 20:32

I’ve come to my mum’s and told DH I want some space.
He’s pretty upset. I feel like a terrible person. My instinct is to apologise and go back.

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me4real · 21/07/2021 22:17

Well done @Cornfieldrainbows . Stay strong, don't go back. xx

PandasCatsWolves · 21/07/2021 22:25

Good for you.

Hang in there. Notice the instinct and choose to ignore it anyway.

Hope you are able to eat there

Desmondo2021 · 21/07/2021 22:35

Good on you. Now you are about to go through some hideously emotional, challenging and testing times. There is likely to be some unpleasantness, and anger, and nastiness... These are all normal steps. I've been there. Just stay firm, take each hour as it comes. It won't always be this hard. You've done the hardest bit.

Cornfieldrainbows · 21/07/2021 22:35

Had DH on the phone, drunk, promising to change, saying I’m right but he’ll go to counselling and do better etc etc.

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billy1966 · 21/07/2021 22:43

He is not a good husband.
He is not a good man.
He has ignored thatbyou are worn out and broken and out himself first at every turn.

You are miserable to your core.

Your life holds no value to you because you are suffocated by carry the load with this extremely selfish man.

You are very brave to want more and to go to your mother's.

He knows well that he is a bad husband.

He is upset for himself, not you.

You are just a skivvy to him.

He has had years to show kindness and support, even faced with your tears he couldn't support you.

Anything will be better than this man in your life, using you as a skivvy.

Stay strong.
Do not give in.
Do not allow your awful mother to guilt you.

Keeo posting.
Flowers

gamerchick · 21/07/2021 22:44

There's nothing stopping him. You don't need to go back first though, he can just crack on with it.

They usually balk at that.... Because it's crap.

billy1966 · 21/07/2021 22:44

He says he will do better?

Better?

He has deliberately done nothing.

He is a disgrace as a husband.
Flowers

billy1966 · 21/07/2021 22:53

I have just read your thread.

He is utter scum.

He has never given a damn about you or your children.

He has NEVER done a damn thing to have helped you or his children.

No wonder you had PND and are on antidepressants, you write as if you are in HELL and I don't blame you.

With a sorry, selfish waster as a husband, who can blame you.

Listen to your friends.

You have NEVER been happy.

17 years he has taken from you.

Do NOT give him one more day.

Do anything you can.
Your children can share a room.
Whatever it takes, get away from him.

Let him clean up his own mess from now on, selfish prick.

You have a great life ahead of you, as long as you don't go back to that awful excuse of a man.Flowers

candycane222 · 21/07/2021 23:17

You are not a terrible person. It suits your husband for you to think you are though, so he gets what he wants. He has made you think this. It is NOT TRUE . You deserve 1,000,000 x better.

I repeat: you are not a terrible person.

He will cry and bleat and say any shit to get you to go back, so he can go on being a disgusting lazy arse and have the world not know how dreadful he is. Don't listen to him, if he cared about you one milligram, he would not have been so awful all this time. He will lie any lie to avoid facing the consequences of what he has done and how he has been. Indeed he is probably genuinely sorry - but only for himself. As always. Don't fall for it.

SortingItOut · 22/07/2021 06:39

You're doing really well by telling him you need space and going to your mums.

I know its hard but don't apologise and go back.

Take it all one day at a time and just think of it that you're visiting your mum and not that you're having space from him.

He will ramp up the pressure soon, if saying he'll change hasn't got you back he will then tell you that you're horrible, useless, he never loved you etc and then when that doesn't work he'll apologise for saying that but you drove him to it and then he'll lovebomb you and the cycle continues.

Take as much time as you need.

Cornfieldrainbows · 22/07/2021 07:03

The problem is we are meant to be going away on Saturday so there’s a lot of pressure. I’m not ready to go in any of the ways - I haven’t sorted out the pets or the packing or anything. I need to decide today so we can get ready.
I think he will be very angry if I say no.

He was pushing me on the phone last night, saying that he always succeeds at things and he’s tenacious and he wants us to be a family and that although I’m right about having been leading separate lives he thinks we can fix it.

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billy1966 · 22/07/2021 07:49

OP,
Tell him to go on holiday.
Tell him to get organised.

Tell him if he is so tenacious it shiuld be no problem to get packed and ready.

He is just a nasty lazy bully wbo is as selfish as the day is long.

OP, he doesn't care about you he NEVER has.

No husband could care not to mind love his wife and partner and sit back and do absolutely NOTHING to help, ever, while she struggled.

He is a nasty bully.

He will get angry because he is used to having his way.

Do not be guilted into going on holiday.

He has caused this situation.

You are in an abusive relationship with a controlling man who has treated you like the house slave.

He is not a good man.
He wants you back in your slave box, it really is that simple.

He is a lazy selfish failure whose wife wants to see the back of him because he has never so much as lifted a finger in the house.

Flowers
Cornfieldrainbows · 22/07/2021 07:55

He is being nice as pie at the moment.

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billy1966 · 22/07/2021 08:24

Please don't be bullied by him.

You need to get legal advice and see if you can get a small rental for you and the children.

candycane222 · 22/07/2021 12:02

Of course he's being nice as pie. He wants to carry on exactly as before, and that's the way to trick into going back.

He may even believe himself. You don't have to believe him, I strongly advise you do not.

Magenta82 · 22/07/2021 13:30

Please don't apologise, you've done nothing wrong!

I think you need to start planning, see a solicitor, look for a relatively short term rental property and move out.

Don't stay with your mum for long, better to be alone than with someone who doesn't support you.

Cornfieldrainbows · 22/07/2021 13:48

I’m struggling hard. I now keep thinking of times that were happier and feeling I’ve done the wrong thing.

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