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I am so trapped

732 replies

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

OP posts:
Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 15:34

Yes, that’s true.
I suppose I feel that I should give it one more try, for her sake.
And ds. Although he was more aware that stuff wasn’t right so not quite the same.

OP posts:
Itsallthedramamick · 18/08/2021 15:46

I haven't read most of the thread, but if you go back now that's it, you won't leave again. You've done the hardest part!

Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 15:59

I don’t know, this part hasn’t felt so bad. It’s things like sorting out the house etc which feel like they’d be harder.

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Cavagirl · 18/08/2021 15:59

OP please give this a read www.womensaid.org.uk/the-survivors-handbook/am-i-in-an-abusive-relationship/

REignbow · 18/08/2021 18:01

So he hasn’t been playing golf for a few weeks. So what! He also, has not looked after his DC by himself, as you have mostly been with him during his contact. .

He is just waxing lyrical. His actions speak louder than words. He has not given you any access to money, he assaults you every time you see him and you are minimising everything.

What is your five year old missing exactly? He was an absent father before, who did not spend any time with her. What she is missing is her home, her routines and her things. I bet if he moved out and you moved back home, she would not say anything.

I also think there is some manipulation going on here with your daughter. Daddy (and MIL to extent), have probably been saying ‘oh is it not better when mummy and daddy are together’. If he can manipulate you then he can do that to your daughter.

You are being abused. Please call WA and speak to your GP.

Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 18:45

I feel anxious about the holiday.
I’m wondering if as a compromise we could go Monday - Friday and he has the dc Saturday night. I’m genuinely not ready or sorted to go and it’s making me feel panicky.

OP posts:
Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 18:45

But it’s not all about me and maybe that’s selfish.

OP posts:
YukoandHiro · 18/08/2021 18:48

Leaving when your child is 18 and starting their own lives is often the worst thing they can do - if their base is shattered then it can lead to a very chaotic and damaging first decade of young adulthood with very poor choices made that affect their whole lives. It's definitely better to do it now while they are younger and closer to you

FlowerArranger · 18/08/2021 18:55

I think everyone is wasting their time here.
The OP will go back to her abusive husband.
In a few months she'll post another thread.
And so it goes on. And on.
It's infinitely sad when women are unable to act in their and their children's interest.
But it is what it is.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 18/08/2021 19:05

@YukoandHiro

Leaving when your child is 18 and starting their own lives is often the worst thing they can do - if their base is shattered then it can lead to a very chaotic and damaging first decade of young adulthood with very poor choices made that affect their whole lives. It's definitely better to do it now while they are younger and closer to you
This.

You'll normalise an incredibly unhealthy dynamic they'll likely replicate as adults.

Poor kids.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 18/08/2021 20:18

@YukoandHiro

Leaving when your child is 18 and starting their own lives is often the worst thing they can do - if their base is shattered then it can lead to a very chaotic and damaging first decade of young adulthood with very poor choices made that affect their whole lives. It's definitely better to do it now while they are younger and closer to you
This is so true

I speak from bitter experience

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 18/08/2021 20:28

@Cornfieldrainbows

But it’s not all about me and maybe that’s selfish.

No it's not all about you - you are also responsible for making the right choice on behalf of your children. Them growing up in an abusive household with a downtrodden depressed martyr for a mother is NOT in their best interests. Or yours.

Ok he's on his best behaviour now -of course he is!

Stop this bollocks about going on holiday - you can't even cope with the idea, your body shuts down and wants to sleep at the thought of it.

Just tell him you are not going, he can take the children and his mother if he so wishes.

I think you are afraid to tell him you're not going on holiday because you know he will get angry - and this will prove to you that he isn't the new caring considerate husband that you desperately want him to be.

Tell him you're not going - his reaction will speak volumes. If he is decent he will take the kids and give you some peace. If not then this surely tells you what you really already know deep down.

I feel for you OP but there comes a time when you have to shit or get off the pot. Do the right thing and get off the damn pot!

Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 20:34

He’d be suspicious if I didn’t go, he’d say who was I going to be with instead etc.
He won’t take the dc on his.
I’m going to suggest we go for just four or five nights and he has the dc one night beforehand.
Dd won’t want to go mind you. It bothers me that at 5 and 12 they are still so reliant on me.

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MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 18/08/2021 20:38

Who were you going to be with instead?

So he's completely controlling then

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 18/08/2021 20:39

DO NOT GO

Cornfieldrainbows · 18/08/2021 20:40

I’d be with my parents 😂😂

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 18/08/2021 20:41

He’d be suspicious if I didn’t go, he’d say who was I going to be with instead etc.

Well exactly!! If you said you wanted space, he would accuse you of fucking someone else?!

It. Isn't. Normal.

You're going to teach your children that relationships are meant to have a man who gets to do what he wants and a woman who does what she's told and is a martyr.

It's not best for them to stay together. It's a selfish thing to do as it's not in their best interests long term. And the longer you stay, the longer you teach them this dynamic is ok.

It's not. It's unhealthy, toxic, dysfunctional and abusive.

If you really want to do what's best for your kids then put their long term future before the short term pain of a split. Their dad won't be arsed about seeing them or making an effort with them unless he gets to shag you. That doesn't mean you should stay and let him shag you. It means you should leave so at least one of their parents can be a healthy influence in their life.

RowanAlong · 18/08/2021 21:21

Your mum sounds controlling too. You’re a grown woman, you must take back control of your own happiness and don’t let her trample you down. You can do it! You don’t owe her anything

AviciaJones · 19/08/2021 00:14

It’s time you dug your heels in and say you won’t be going on this holiday. If the lazy, controlling slug won’t take the children let that be on him.

You are at a fork in road and it’s up to you OP to make the choice for you and your children. You married a controlling person who does not have your best interests at heart, just like your mother. Do you want either of your DC to repeat ending up with a controlling arse too.

Also tell the lazy slug to give you some money, selfish pig that he is. You are not his slave, or you won’t be when you decide enough is enough!

JSL52 · 19/08/2021 08:17

I wonder why you've started another identical thread ?

billy1966 · 19/08/2021 11:58

The other threads are because her gut is screaming at her not to return but she refuses to listen.🤷‍♀️

It really is that simple.

Cornfieldrainbows · 19/08/2021 12:51

And how to handle the stuff around the dc.
I’m going tomorrow.
It’s too hard not to.
Then when we get back I will look at making a proper agreement with DH over having the children and the money.

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Sarahlou63 · 19/08/2021 13:02

Have your phone on voice memo under the bed so you have evidence, should you need it.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 19/08/2021 13:04

Please, please don't have sex with him on this holiday. Please.

Can you have separate bedrooms / can he sleep on the sofa when the kids are asleep?

Again, he will be happy to do this if he actually wants you to feel safe and secure because it's not a huge ask and he's said he will take things at your pace.

If you really, really feel you have to go on this holiday then that's the most sensible way of dealing with it then you can end things for good when you're back.

FlowerArranger · 19/08/2021 15:23

@Cornfieldrainbows

And how to handle the stuff around the dc. I’m going tomorrow. It’s too hard not to. Then when we get back I will look at making a proper agreement with DH over having the children and the money.
So you are going to stick on another plaster to try and fix a broken leg...

Which is obviously easier than to fix it properly.

How well did this work the last time?

You know what the definition of insanity is, right...

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