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I am so trapped

732 replies

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

OP posts:
Guineapigbridge · 08/08/2021 05:42

In other words, I suspect you might have trouble articulating your needs in a clear way. If you were able to be more assertive, could your marriage have a chance to work better?

TeamRick · 08/08/2021 12:54

Guinea this isn't the Op's only thread, I think if you had read them all your advice would be different. This isn't about her asserting herself!

I hope you're doing ok cornfield Thanks

RandomMess · 09/08/2021 23:33

@Cornfieldrainbows how are you today?

Cornfieldrainbows · 11/08/2021 08:26

I’m not doing so well. The anxious feeling is back, very strongly. I think it’s because of knowing we’ve got this holiday the end of next week and needing to make a decision about it.
I’m going to end up going because DH has told the children how great it’ll be.
DH has taken ds to see the cricket - ds has said a few times that he is seeing his dad more now we’ve left than when we were there.
Whenever I’ve seen DH he’s been all over me. Asking me for more kisses. Hands down my trousers and up my top.
I feel beaten by everything today. I just want it to stop.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 11/08/2021 08:43

Tell DH to take the DC on holiday without you.

If you go he will sexually harassed and coerce you into sex. You feel anxious because you don't want to go.

Have you spoken to women's aid? You need help.

You need to tell him it's over.

If you go on holiday you will go back and it will be 1,000 times harder to ever leave again.

Thanks
MMMarmite · 11/08/2021 08:43

This man is disgusting. Don't let him touch you. Start the wheels for a divorce and proper financial settlement.

And your mum sounds horrible too. Do you have any other options of where you could stay, so that you can get away from her negative influence?

MMMarmite · 11/08/2021 08:44

Don't go on the holiday. If you think it would be safe for them, he could take the kids without you? If not, missing one holiday is a small price to pay for escaping this dysfunctional situation.

billy1966 · 11/08/2021 08:45

You have been so strong.
Please do not go back when you know you don't want to.
You don't owe your children that.

He is awful.
Your children will be fine.
Don't be bullied to go on holiday.

He can take the children himself but do not go.

He is a bully that is all.
You will so regret it if you return and it will be so much worse.

He is sexually assaulting you.
Tell him to stop.
You do not have to put up with this.

Keep posting .Flowers

RandomMess · 11/08/2021 08:56

If he refuses to take the DC without you then you could take them without him.

Ogham · 11/08/2021 09:09

I’m sorry you are having such a horrible time. I had got the impression that the holiday had passed already. This man is sexually assaulting you, you cannot go away with him! He is behaving disgustingly and showing you zero respect. You’ve got to tell him to take the kids on his own or cancel. You absolutely cannot put yourself in that situation.
You seem to be really struggling, your priority right now is to seek help for your MH. Please see your doctor ASAP. You also need to prioritise talking to a professional about what you’re going through.
Absolutely stop seeing this man or being alone with him. Hand the kids over at your parents house and tell that their dad will take them away on his own.

Madamswearsalot · 11/08/2021 09:25

I do feel like the sexual aggression has ramped up - he started out verbally, then all the kissing, now the hands. I agree with RandomMess - he'll coerce you into sex if you go on holiday.

BUT that's only one of the many reasons you shouldn't go - you don't want to go, you don't want to spend more time with this man, you don't want to end up doing all the drudge work, you don't want to move backwards.

What I see is someone who knows deep down what is right for her and that is leaving this awful relationship. But she is hampered by exhaustion, zero confidence in her own experience and opinion and two very harmful influences (H and mother).

It may not feel like you have it in you but you have shown incredible strength to just walk out of the door. I honestly believe it is in you.

Time to access some resources - national dv line, women's aid, rights of women. Each step takes you closer to a life without him in it.

Cavagirl · 11/08/2021 09:53

Whenever I’ve seen DH he’s been all over me. Asking me for more kisses. Hands down my trousers and up my top

Do you feel able to say no? Stop? What happens if you do (or what are you worried about happening?)

At the moment OP it's like you've got yourself to a bridge between the old life, and the new life, and you haven't quite got the confidence to walk across it. You've done so well to get yourself to the point, so well. And now you're stuck stood in the middle of the bridge, with his voice and your mum's voice and misplaced guilt getting increasingly louder calling you back. But you know, in your heart of hearts, what you really want to do is cross the bridge. And the longer you stand in the middle of the bridge, the harder it gets to walk across.

I really think it would help you to really this through with someone IRL (an independent professional, not your mother!). Have you spoken to women's aid?

billy1966 · 11/08/2021 10:37

I can also see him raping you on holidays in the hope of trying to trap you with a pregnancy.

Under any circumstances you do not owe a holiday to the children when doing so would be putting yourself physically so much at risk.

I absolutely think he is a danger to you.

You should not be going to your house and being alone with him.

Please help yourself by contacting 101.
He is using contact with his children to sexually assault you.

Until YOU start taking seriously what he is doing YOU are not going to be safe from him.

He is bullying you with sexual assault.

He is utter scum.

Please contact Woman's aid, the police, your GP.

Please get help.Flowers

judgejudyrocks · 11/08/2021 14:19

The reason you ended up Trapped in the first place with an abuser is because of your mother

She trained you to attract abusers, because she controlled you your entire life

It is always a woman's fault, eh. Hmm

Cornfieldrainbows · 11/08/2021 15:07

It’s ANOTHER Holiday. I didn’t go on the first one.

I don’t think he wants me to get pregnant, there’s just an air of desperation about the whole thing.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 11/08/2021 15:33

Yes he's desperate to have you back k but only under as things were before. You had zero intention for anything to change.

Be even braver and tell him that you will not go with him but it would be wonderful for the DC if he took them.

Cavagirl · 11/08/2021 15:49

@Cornfieldrainbows

It’s ANOTHER Holiday. I didn’t go on the first one.

I don’t think he wants me to get pregnant, there’s just an air of desperation about the whole thing.

When was this one booked?
billy1966 · 11/08/2021 15:52

You have said no once, you can do it again.

Tell him to take the children or cancel.

Has he given any money to you?

Have you put in a CMS claim?

Have you sourced a solicitor?

This is how you show him this is real.

The house needs to be valued and sold so that you can buy a home for you and your children.

He wants his skivvy back.

In 10 years he will be wanting to retire and we will expect you to be his carer.

This is your chance.

Do not go back.

Going back will cause unnecessary confusion.

This is the childrens new reality.

You need to be looking for a rental home.
Flowers

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 11/08/2021 17:50

Only you can decide whether you want this to stop

You don't have to be alone with him

You don't have to go on holiday with him

QueenBee52 · 11/08/2021 18:20

this is Horrific

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/08/2021 18:22

Hands down my trousers and up my top.

Christ, that's awful! That's sexual assault.

Please DO NOT go on holiday with this pig and keep contact with him as minimal as possible.

Ogham · 11/08/2021 19:27

Well that sums him up nicely. You said no to the first holiday and stuck to your guns. So he decided to book a second holiday Presumably without even asking you so he could put the pressure on you again. What a prick!
Realise the future you want and keep fighting for it. It’s uncomfortable but so worth it. But you must avoid being around him or report him to the police, he is an absolute sleaze and a predator.

QueenBee52 · 11/08/2021 22:37

you know you are allowed to say NO right..

the kids will be fine... they will get over it 🌸

AviciaJones · 11/08/2021 22:55

You owe him nothing OP, he owes you, you were his slave for long enough.

He will only become an involved father if you aren’t with him. Your DC will enjoy having his attention and they won’t get it if you go back to him. He will revert back to the lazy controlling lump of a man.

Magenta82 · 11/08/2021 23:02

I think he should take the kids on holiday by himself, I would worry for your safety if you went. Take care x