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I am so trapped

732 replies

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

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QueenBee52 · 31/07/2021 14:07

@RandomMess

If he wants to see the DC from now on he picks them up from your parents place. Don't be alone with him anymore.

absolutely agree

AhNowTed · 31/07/2021 14:12

Still no practical help, just mauls you instead. I have the ick just reading it.

As PP said, don't be alone with him. And stop being so convenient.

Let him pick up the kids and take them out. You stay with your mum.

Cornfieldrainbows · 31/07/2021 14:33

He’s going to have the kids tomorrow for a bit but he wants to know where I’m going and who with etc. How long I will be.
He will take them to his mum’s.

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AhNowTed · 31/07/2021 14:36

Tell him you'll be back at x time and nothing else.

He really doesn't get it does he 🙄

RandomMess · 31/07/2021 14:38

It's none of his business. Can you not see how controlling he is being?

billy1966 · 31/07/2021 14:43

Absolutely NONE of his business.

The sooner you tell him that you are now separated the better.

gamerchick · 31/07/2021 15:37

@Cornfieldrainbows

He’s going to have the kids tomorrow for a bit but he wants to know where I’m going and who with etc. How long I will be. He will take them to his mum’s.
He's worried about another dude. My ex would only take the kids one at a time when we split up in case of a romantic life.

Nothing to do with him what you're doing.

QueenBee52 · 31/07/2021 16:28

@Cornfieldrainbows

He’s going to have the kids tomorrow for a bit but he wants to know where I’m going and who with etc. How long I will be. He will take them to his mum’s.

you need to see that this is OFFICIALLY none of his business...

do not explain yourself to Him..

unless you wish to try again, in which case go home 🌸

Sarahlou63 · 31/07/2021 17:02

@Cornfieldrainbows

He’s going to have the kids tomorrow for a bit but he wants to know where I’m going and who with etc. How long I will be. He will take them to his mum’s.
One word answer "Why?"

Or two words "My business."

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 31/07/2021 23:46

Stop facilitating this nonsense

Stop going there
He can pick the children up from your parents

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 31/07/2021 23:50

Sorry if that was harsh

But you are allowing yourself to be controllled by him even now, you are going there and spending time with him which he is using to chip away at you.

You haven't insisted that he transfer money to you - why not?

LucyLovesCheese · 03/08/2021 09:49

Hi, I hope you are doing ok? Sending strength and remember you’re doing the right thing Flowers

billy1966 · 03/08/2021 10:28

How are things going for you?

Cornfieldrainbows · 03/08/2021 15:41

We’re ok.
We’re still at my parents and I’ve done some nice things with the dc but I am haemorrhaging cash so need to stop.
The dc still seem fine. They’ve just accepted it as it is for now. DH is putting pressure on me to go back, he keeps saying ‘I won’t let you go again’ and ‘I won’t let you out of my sight again’ which isn’t exactly encouraging me back tbh.
I’m concerned that were I to go back he’d clamp down harder than ever.
I’m still in limbo a bit though. I’m not really any further forwards.
Thank you for thinking of me Flowers

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Notawriteryet · 03/08/2021 15:54

Wow! You’re miles further than you were! Stay strong!

RandomMess · 03/08/2021 17:29

Listen when a man tells you who he is.

He absolutely will ramp up the control an abuse if you go back.

Please put in the CMS and UC claims.

QueenBee52 · 03/08/2021 21:48

he sounds like a stalking jailer with ever update ... such a horrible existence for you OP 🌸

AhNowTed · 03/08/2021 22:50

OP bless you, I really feel for you.

SO still no practical help, no money, just more of the same all over you like a rash with his empty gestures that cost him absolutely nothing in terms of effort, money or time.

billy1966 · 03/08/2021 23:26

OP,
He is telling you the truth.
He is telling you EXACTLY what he is thinking.

No help.
No self reflection.
No suggestions as to how he could step up.

Just wanting to maul you.
Stating clearly that he will suffocate you with control while he sits on HIS arse and does NOTHING.

You are a bright, clever woman.
You know only too well what he means.

He will cut down on going out so that he is wstching you like a hawk, mauling you at every opportunity, absolutely determined to grind you down, so you NEVER try this again.

If I had to move into the tiniest, pokiest, little house to keep away from that pig, I would.

OP, he will do his level best to get you pregnant by hook or by crook.
You do realise that?

You are going to have him trying to crawl all over you day and night.

Because abusive scum like him know that by getting you pregnant, narrowing your options, makes life more complicated for you.

You do NOT need another baby with that pig.

You need to make sure you are very careful of him.

I think he is well capable of forcing himself on you.
As in raping you.

He thinks you are his procession, to keep his house.

He is not going to give that up easily.

I have no wish to upset you but I feel he is a deeply creepy man.Flowers

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/08/2021 23:40

@billy1966

OP, He is telling you the truth. He is telling you EXACTLY what he is thinking.

No help.
No self reflection.
No suggestions as to how he could step up.

Just wanting to maul you.
Stating clearly that he will suffocate you with control while he sits on HIS arse and does NOTHING.

You are a bright, clever woman.
You know only too well what he means.

He will cut down on going out so that he is wstching you like a hawk, mauling you at every opportunity, absolutely determined to grind you down, so you NEVER try this again.

If I had to move into the tiniest, pokiest, little house to keep away from that pig, I would.

OP, he will do his level best to get you pregnant by hook or by crook.
You do realise that?

You are going to have him trying to crawl all over you day and night.

Because abusive scum like him know that by getting you pregnant, narrowing your options, makes life more complicated for you.

You do NOT need another baby with that pig.

You need to make sure you are very careful of him.

I think he is well capable of forcing himself on you.
As in raping you.

He thinks you are his procession, to keep his house.

He is not going to give that up easily.

I have no wish to upset you but I feel he is a deeply creepy man.Flowers

OP. Read this. Then read it again. And again and again.

ALL he had to do to show genuine empathy and self reflection was give you some money and respect your boundaries in the short term. That's all. He couldn't even do that. Because he doesn't get it. Because he's an abusive arsehole.

You're trying to make sense out of nonsense. His entire personality, his interpersonal skills, his approach to relationships... none of it makes sense because he is not normal and nice like you.

Stop being alone with him.

Stop talking to him about anything other than childcare arrangements.

Stop enabling him to continue behaving this way.

Get a solicitor. Get serious. Get focused on stopping this shot show for your children's sake if not yours.

You deserve more and so do they. But you have a choice and they don't. It's a grown up decision that is too big for them to influence.

You need to be the brave one and decide this relationship is over.

He didn't even pretend to do the minimum he needed to get your confidence in him back. That's how little he gives a shit and / or how much he doesn't understand it and can't empathise.

Stop enabling him to continue.

JSL52 · 04/08/2021 13:56

@Cornfieldrainbows

We’re ok. We’re still at my parents and I’ve done some nice things with the dc but I am haemorrhaging cash so need to stop. The dc still seem fine. They’ve just accepted it as it is for now. DH is putting pressure on me to go back, he keeps saying ‘I won’t let you go again’ and ‘I won’t let you out of my sight again’ which isn’t exactly encouraging me back tbh. I’m concerned that were I to go back he’d clamp down harder than ever. I’m still in limbo a bit though. I’m not really any further forwards. Thank you for thinking of me Flowers
PLEASE don't go back OP.
Newestname001 · 04/08/2021 16:57

@Cornfieldrainbows

"I could just keep you here hostage against your will"

DH is putting pressure on me to go back, he keeps saying ‘I won’t let you go again’ and ‘I won’t let you out of my sight again’

OP this is really quite stalker-ish. This man is actually telling you exactly what his plans are for you if you were to weaken, let down your guard and go back: it will be much harder to escape next time.

As for him repeatedly violating your wishes for him to back off a bit whilst you thought through your situation and also trying repeatedly to kiss you well when you need some personal space, where's his respect for you?

I hope you are managing to apply for the help you need, eg: CMS for child maintenance plus Universal Credit. Check on www.entitledto.co.uk for benefits and, when ready, don't forget to claim your 25% discount for your council tax as a single adult occupier. Have you taken on a solicitor yet? I'm sure finding out the facts of your situation will help calm your mind, stiffen your resolve, and help you move forward.

Strength to you, and good luck for a better future for you and your children. 🌹

MzHz · 04/08/2021 16:58

This man is bad. Bad for you and by association bad for your kids as it’s not right that this becomes normal to them , so please no more trips to the old house, make him come to your parents but not allowing him indoors

REignbow · 05/08/2021 01:45

I agree with everyone PP. Please ring WA to get some support, stop taking the DC to him (and staying) and keep all communication about the DC only.

Why are you haemorrhaging money? I ask as HE should be contributing, so please put in a CMS claim and see what benefits you are entitled to now that you are single.

Cornfieldrainbows · 05/08/2021 08:09

Struggling a bit today.
I went out last night for three hours. I didn’t go until 8.30 but dd still wasn’t asleep - she often isn’t, she’s a night owl. My mum has said this morning that dd was very upset and didn’t sleep until about 10.30 and that she thinks my ds is unhappy as well and that the dc hardly ever see me.
Last week when I was off work I took them somewhere every day and was never away from them. Saturday as well. Sunday DH had them for five hours. Monday I went back to work but ds is at sport all week. Yesterday I took dd out for a day just us as her brother was at sports camp and I didn’t go out until 8.30 last night.
I feel like I’ll just pack the job in and go back. It’s really upset me. ‘They hardly ever see you.’ I got up at 6am today to start work so that I’m finished earlier. Both dc are still in bed. If I can get a couple of hours in before they are up I can finish at 2ish.
I honestly feel like giving up. Apparently I’m damaging my children and going out for less than three hours last night is unacceptable.
I feel like everyone just wants to me to be wife and mum and nothing else.

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