Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

I am so trapped

732 replies

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

OP posts:
Cornfieldrainbows · 30/07/2021 14:15

We are ok.
I’ve popped back today so the dc can see DH and to get some more stuff.
DH is still trying to kiss me all the time and saying give me another kiss, that’s not enough, you’re going to get bored of me kissing you all the time. Come back and kiss me more. You’re not going anywhere until I’ve had a kiss etc etc.
Dd is pleased to be back - she misses her home. I just can’t come back, not at the moment anyway. It’s too soon.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 30/07/2021 15:32

Christ the sound of him makes my skin crawl.

That's all he has to say to you, that he wants to kiss you?
Like you want him near you.
He has nothing else to suggest.

The vanity and delusion OP.

God help you.

He sounds mentally unhinged.

What about money?
Have you started a claim for UC and CMS claim?

You need money.
Flowers

RandomMess · 30/07/2021 18:11

Sort out somewhere to live, collect DDs stuff and she will be just as happy in the new place.

She misses the familiarity and her things and not him.

The kissing stuff is him scent marking your like a dog, declaring his ownership of you and is beyond disturbing. He refuses to listen or hear what you are saying.

Ogham · 30/07/2021 20:33

“I just can’t come back, not at the moment anyway. It’s too soon.“

  • it sounds like your having second thoughts. Do NOT go back to him. Meet him away from the house so he can’t keep harassing you. He’s like a sex pest, how do you keep from vomiting - he’s absolutely gross. Does he really think that kind of shite is going to win you back?
Also if it’s unsettling the kids being in the house, as @RandomMess mess says, it’s just the familiarity that they enjoy not actually being there with him. Stay strong @Cornfieldrainbows and just remember back to how horrible he was when you said you weren’t moving back in - he’s just changing tack now to try and win you back. Read back on your posts as if you’re reading somebody else’s story. Stay strong
MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 30/07/2021 20:56

I don't know how you can bear to kiss him tbh

AhNowTed · 31/07/2021 09:14

Kisses and words are easy. Just more empty gestures.

Has he taken the kids on his own, or handed over money?

Cornfieldrainbows · 31/07/2021 10:24

No to either.
He has offered a joint account but right now I don’t want a joint account.
I’ve suggested he have the kids tomorrow for a few hours whilst I see a friend. He’s ok about it but did say he’d rather we are all together.
He is upset though and I feel awful about it. Ds said he wants two happy parents but he doesn’t want us to get divorced. He’s struggling with the uncertainty I think.
Dd seems ok - just accepting what’s happening.

OP posts:
AhNowTed · 31/07/2021 10:40

I don't think this can be fixed.

It's bad enough that he does literally nothing and is financially controlling. And with his empty gestures isn't going to change. That would be plenty reason.

But I just reread your initial post. You're not attracted to him anymore. And who could blame you.

You can't live the next 13 years avoiding him and cringing at his advances, and being bloody miserable in an unhealthy situation.

Cavagirl · 31/07/2021 10:50

He has offered a joint account but right now I don’t want a joint account.

Have you asked for him to transfer you money, and this is his suggestion instead?

Cornfieldrainbows · 31/07/2021 10:52

He suddenly said - I know! Joint account!
This was because at the relate session I mentioned the ‘bank’s closed’ and the having to ask for money.
When I said the bank’s closed thing he did look a bit horrified and after he said ‘am I a dick?’

OP posts:
RandomMess · 31/07/2021 10:56

Please don't get sucked in to making everyone else happy at your own expense.

Tell him he needs to transfer you money £x per month.

RandomMess · 31/07/2021 10:57

You have been trained to appease the men in your life you deserve so much more.

AhNowTed · 31/07/2021 11:07

A joint account so he can monitor your spending and still has all the control?Nope.

He can well afford to transfer x amount no questions asked.

MzHz · 31/07/2021 11:40

Stay strong and focus on one thing, getting out of his clutches and being free to be happy

You will NEVER be able to be happy with him.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 31/07/2021 11:51

So he still hasn't given you any money. He's still controlling you.

How on earth are you managing financially?

Cornfieldrainbows · 31/07/2021 12:26

I’m managing because I’m not paying any rent to my parents. I’ve been paid so I’m paying for our food and petrol and stuff but no rent or other bills.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 31/07/2021 12:32

So has he refused to give you money?

billy1966 · 31/07/2021 12:39

OP,
His happiness is not your concern.

He hasn't given one shit about you or your happiness for your entire marriage.

Don't drag this out.
Uncertainty is what's hard for children.
Tell him that this separation is going to be permanent and tell your children the same.
Tell them that they will be fine.

Starting him having the children is a good move.

You need to force this.
If he wants contact with his children, he needs to accept that he will be doing that on his own.

He does not get to insist that you are there.

He is a deeply controlling man who has abused you for years.

You do not want to confuse the children by going back, regretting it, and then leaving again.

Stay strong.
This is the new reality.
It's too late to fix.

Your marriage is OVER.
You need to start your claim.
Flowers

RandomMess · 31/07/2021 12:44

Please ring up CMS and put in a claim today.

QueenBee52 · 31/07/2021 13:00

@RandomMess

Please ring up CMS and put in a claim today.

yes and a joint account keeps you 100% under his control.. ridiculous and dangerous suggestion.

Cornfieldrainbows · 31/07/2021 13:25

I’m trying really hard. It’s just so difficult.
We’ve come back to see him today and he’s all over me and saying things about I could just keep you hostage here against your will, what’s the penalty for that.
And he is joking but it’s ick.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 31/07/2021 13:28

He isn't joking he is exerting pressure on you to go along with what he wants.

Leave and go out with your friend.

You need urgent counselling to develop some boundaries and FAST

billy1966 · 31/07/2021 13:34

@Cornfieldrainbows

I’m trying really hard. It’s just so difficult. We’ve come back to see him today and he’s all over me and saying things about I could just keep you hostage here against your will, what’s the penalty for that. And he is joking but it’s ick.
So he is ramping up his abuse by trying to threaten you.

Nothing jokey about that.

You need to leave.

Can you not see where his thinking is going?

How can he control you more.

This is NOT a good man.

He is an ugly, selfish, abusive man.

He has now threatened you.

Don't allow his tone of voice to mask its threatening content.

QueenBee52 · 31/07/2021 13:58

@Cornfieldrainbows

I’m trying really hard. It’s just so difficult. We’ve come back to see him today and he’s all over me and saying things about I could just keep you hostage here against your will, what’s the penalty for that. And he is joking but it’s ick.
Why are you going round there so frequently ..?

Stop going round every day..

Get your CMS claim in TODAY..

RandomMess · 31/07/2021 14:01

If he wants to see the DC from now on he picks them up from your parents place. Don't be alone with him anymore.