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I am so trapped

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

OP posts:
Cornfieldrainbows · 27/07/2021 08:59

Nothing on the money front. I’ve not asked though. He does keep saying he’d have been spending loads of money if we’d have been on holiday.

We’re ok because we are stopping at my mum’s but I’m buying food and I must admit I went and bought the dc some clothes because we didn’t have much here and I didn’t initially want to go back.

DH sounded angry last night for the first time. I think he thought he’d make an effort and we’d just go back. He said he thinks ds just doesn’t know how to make relationships and doesn’t need one with anybody. This absolutely isn’t true. He is on the spectrum and he is tricky but he can make relationships and actually of my two children he is the more sensitive and empathetic one. He is very in tune with me.

OP posts:
Cavagirl · 27/07/2021 09:09

How are you feeling, OP?

Cornfieldrainbows · 27/07/2021 09:12

Intermittently ok and intermittently like the world has ended.

I cannot thank everyone who has posted enough. Flowers

OP posts:
Ogham · 27/07/2021 09:21

I’m so sorry you feel like this, it will pass. It’s just another phase of the process.
It didn’t take him long to spit the dummy as soon as he wasn’t getting his own way. 💐

Cavagirl · 27/07/2021 09:27

Intermittently OK at this point is pretty good I'd say! You've done so bloody well. Keep going, one day at a time.

Cornfieldrainbows · 27/07/2021 09:33

I actually felt happy for about ten minutes yesterday 😂😂
At 3am not so much.

OP posts:
Howshouldibehave · 27/07/2021 09:39

How is your mum, @Cornfieldrainbows

Your op was about how your mum didn’t want you to leave your husband and that you’d end up living with the kids at her house. Is she ok/supportive now that’s happened?

Hope you’re doing ok.

Cornfieldrainbows · 27/07/2021 10:20

She’s coming round a bit. She thinks I seem happier. She’s worried about the dc still. My dad doesn’t think I should go back.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 27/07/2021 10:25
Thanks

Crack on with phoning CMS and get the ball rolling for child maintenance and a UC claim as a single parent.

He is going to unpleasant and nasty, he thought a few words and you'd go running back.

So sorry that he is such an unkind and selfish person Sad

gamerchick · 27/07/2021 10:51

DH sounded angry last night for the first time. I think he thought he’d make an effort and we’d just go back

It's going to be like this for a while. Super nice then angry it hasn't worked, then ignoring the kids, then angry, then super nice etc. Maybe not in they order but variations are all there, maybe flaunt some unsuspecting woman under your nose..... the intent is wearing you down. Then comes the custody thing. They all do it when their attempts at getting you to go back have failed. They all say they want the kids so be ready for it. They don't really, it's just a control thing.

MzHz · 27/07/2021 10:52

The intermittent will grow. You can see that can’t you?

The first days are the hardest and don’t forget you’re being subjected to an onslaught of manipulation

If you can block him for a few days, it’ll help you gain strength and you’ll start to get the adrenaline out of your system

MzHz · 27/07/2021 10:54

The day I dropped my ex at the airport he literally rapid cycled through every emotion

I told him to stay quiet if he didn’t fancy being dumped on the side of the M4 with his luggage

QueenBee52 · 27/07/2021 12:20

Have you sought Legal Advice .. if not please do so.. and claim CMS online asap 🌸

LunaAndHerMoonDragons · 27/07/2021 13:04

@Cornfieldrainbows

Yes, I’ve lost over two stone in two years. I feel too anxious to eat a lot of the time. I was about nine and a half stone to begin with so don’t have much leeway now. House is in his name - no mortgage. I have no pension. He has quite a big private pension, he tends to put £30k plus in it annually.
Make sure if you haven't already you register your "home rights" against the family marital property. "If you do not register your home rights then your spouse could sell or mortgage your home without you knowing about it. This may mean that you have to leave the property. It may also restrict your claims for finances on divorce." rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-information/family-law/marriage-your-rights-to-your-home/
Shehasadiamondinthesky · 27/07/2021 13:08

My DS was MUCH happier after I left the ex. He was a miserable sod and a child can't be happy if mum and dad are not happy.

MzHz · 27/07/2021 13:45

My son bloomed in about 5 days! It was his reaction that helped me keep my resolve

billy1966 · 27/07/2021 14:26

OP,
You are doing so well.

What scum he is blaming his son for the lack of relationship when he has never made ANY effort even.

Your lovely son has the measure of his father.

Your son will blossom with a happier mum and the truth is your little girl is going to have a much happier childhood too and will be far less damaged now that you have left.

Please register an interest in the home asap.

You need legal advice.
You are married a long time and you need half the value at least of that house so you can have a home for your children.

Legal advice is crucial and will give you more peace in your mind that you can do this.

You are also entitled to some of that pension to secure your future.

He is no doubt going to become nastier and uglier as time goes on.

This is who he is, so of course he will.
It will hopefully only serve to give you strength.

All you need is a small place for the children and yourself, that is peaceful.

I think you have a wonderful future ahead of you if you stay strong.

Getting the legal stuff started is important.

You need money.

You need to text him and ask him to transfer.

If he declines it is just further proof of his financial abuse of you.

Have you a rough idea of what the house is worth?
30 thousand is a nice pension add on.

Yet he has refused you money constantly.
Make sure to tell the solicitor that you have sold stuff to pay for the children while that prick was putting 30,000 into his pension.

Utterly abusive.
Have you told your parents that?

That would NOT be something that I would keep to myself.

Anyone ask you why your marriage has gone tits up???....thats a lovely snippet to explain!!!

youvegottenminuteslynn · 27/07/2021 15:03

DH wants to see the dc but all of us together. He doesn’t seem to want to do much with them on his own. He now seems to want us to be together at all times. God. There’s no happy medium with this man.

He wants to play happy families, not contribute to a family actually being happy. Huge difference.

He wants the veneer and the kudos without the work and emotional labour.

He makes my skin crawl with the 'sweetheart' stuff. Bleurgh.

Please don't be taken in by this. If anything, all of his 'I can't promise I won't kiss you all the time' is just a sign of his shitty character as he's basically telling you that if he wants to kiss you he will, whenever he likes, whether you like it or not because now he wants to.

And suddenly he wants to give up golf and spend ALL the time together? Nope. He wants to keep you under his eye so you won't leave.

He will be suggesting another baby soon.

Open your eyes to the fact he hasn't suddenly started being nice. He ISN'T being nice. He saying things he thinks sound nice while not doing any of the hard work or real parenting.

You mention a childcare bill that needs to be paid. Why hasn't he offered to pay that now he's such a changed man? Why are you the one worrying about it if he's such a changed man? Because he hasn't changed.

The second you strip him of his 'I'm a great dad and partner now I've decided I want to be' label, he will go back to being nasty. And yes, he will blame YOU for 'not trying' or 'giving up on our family' or whatever other emotional blackmail he will pull.

And he will be a prick for doing it and you'll be a fool if you listen to him and concede. You cannot have a healthy, happy relationship with this man. It is not a healthy, happy, well functioning relationship dynamic to show your children. You can't stay with him.

FatAnkles · 27/07/2021 15:59

I read a lot of these type of threads and they all seem to follow the same pattern.

Seasoned Mners know the script.

I admire @Cornfieldrainbows for how far she's come and she's seeing through all her H's lies and manipulation. He isn't interested in parenting his children, isn't interested in being a supportive partner to OP, and thinks a bit of sweet talking will get things back on his terms. Now gets realised that probably his efforts won't wash he's getting nasty.

FlowersFlowersFlowers Stay strong, OP, you are doing brilliantly.

QueenBee52 · 27/07/2021 16:16

@FatAnkles

I read a lot of these type of threads and they all seem to follow the same pattern.

Seasoned Mners know the script.

I admire @Cornfieldrainbows for how far she's come and she's seeing through all her H's lies and manipulation. He isn't interested in parenting his children, isn't interested in being a supportive partner to OP, and thinks a bit of sweet talking will get things back on his terms. Now gets realised that probably his efforts won't wash he's getting nasty.

FlowersFlowersFlowers Stay strong, OP, you are doing brilliantly.

Indeed... these Posters know their stuff.. I am in awe of the combined knowledge on these pages 🌸🌺

billy1966 · 27/07/2021 16:26

@youvegottenminuteslynn

Fantastic statement that really sums him up.

"He wants to play happy families, not actually contribute to a family being happy. Big difference".

This sums him up.

billy1966 · 28/07/2021 07:38

How are you feeling?

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 28/07/2021 08:30

He needs to transfer money immediately

Why hasn't he asked you how you are doing for money and do you or the children need anything?

Wait for his response when you do ask - well if you were to come back I wouldn't need to blah blah

Tell him straight - one of the problems in your marriage has been his financial control and you will not live like that any more

Please please insist

Please also take the financial steps necessary NOW re CMS, house interest and solicitor!

Ogham · 28/07/2021 14:54

How are you feeling today @Cornfieldrainbows?

LucyLovesCheese · 29/07/2021 10:57

Hi @cornfieldrainbows, I hope you are ok?

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