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I am so trapped

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

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Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 12:01

They’re his kids too.
I want to be fair.

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AhNowTed · 25/07/2021 12:01

So he hasn't even offered to take the kids on the holiday. Cos that would be a bit too hard. That's how much he's willing to "change".

Cavagirl · 25/07/2021 12:03

Why can't he come to your mum's & see them, take them out?

Do you see that even when you've left, you're still facilitating him? Is this a default you've agreed to - to put yourself out so he can have contact - or are there reasons you don't want him coming to you?

LucyLovesCheese · 25/07/2021 12:04

Can your Mum or someone else take the children over to see him? I think you would be better keeping your distance until you have a bit of clarity x

Gakatsbsk · 25/07/2021 12:07

Your mother isn’t in charge of your life and she isn’t right.

If you want to leave, leave.

There’s benefits, you could get a part time or full time job, or you could study.

You and your kids would be better off without him

Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 12:08

I just want to facilitate the children really. I’m wary of leaving them on their own with him in case he just takes them - although it is probably unlikely.

I’m leaving our stuff at my mum’s and have told the dc we will go and see dad and then come back. Dd said - are we living here now then? And I said for a little while. And she said ok.

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LucyLovesCheese · 25/07/2021 12:19

Can you meet him somewhere like a park or something- I’m worried he will work on you going back as soon as he has you back in the house- at least if your out he will have to make a scene in public to stop you walking off, please consider this x

Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 12:28

I think I will have to be firm.
He’s still - I love you sweetheart, I think we can make this work, I promise we can make this work, we’re at a crossroads and we all want the same direction.
I’m not sure I do.

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LucyLovesCheese · 25/07/2021 12:35

I’m afraid you will have to use actions not words- best advice I have is meet outside as suggested and tell him you are not going away and you need space, get a new phone (use the old one for him and check it once a day tops only reply to kids related messages) . You’ve been strong and you need to stay that way if you go back it will be harder to leave xx

Ogham · 25/07/2021 12:48

What crossroads is he talking about, the one where you’ve realised what a dick he is!!? Absolutely meet him away from the house.
Yes they are his kids too and he has a right to see them but not where it involves you going to the house.
he can meet u in public place or collect them from your mothers house (without you being there)..
You sound like you’re guilt tripping yourself

Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 12:49

The one where we can turn the right way and make it better. He’s ‘seeing this as an opportunity and he’s glad it happened.’ ‘Not that you’ve lost weight sweetheart but I’m glad I’ve got a chance to build those bridges. We can make it work.’

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RandomMess · 25/07/2021 12:57

Asking him to move out and give you space, he can come over and take the DC to school etc, play tennis with them and so on and demonstrate that he can change.

Also he could take the DC on holiday on his own for the week so you can have a proper break.

AhNowTed · 25/07/2021 13:01

So he has the perfect opportunity - to take the kids on the holiday on his own and give you the first break in 12 years.

CarlaH · 25/07/2021 13:14

Just tell him you don't love him anymore so there's no point in him trying to find a solution.

OldBean2 · 25/07/2021 13:23

OP, it is time to don the big girl pants. Sadly you are not the first person this has happened to, nor will you be the last but you can be the one who decides not to put up with it anymore and not to go on repeating the pattern.

I could tell you about my mother who in 1939 had doubts about marrying my father and only did so when her own mother told her she was too old to find someone else, she was 23! In the early 1960s my granny stayed with us and before she left apologised to my mother when she realised what my father was really like.

You can forge your own happier path, yes your children are playing up at the moment, end of school term, change of routine and you are not at your best but it will pass.

It's now time to take stock of the practicalities, go and see a solicitor, talk to a women's shelter and get some proper advice about what you are entitled to and, make you and your children happy and proud. You can do this.

Shuffleuplove · 25/07/2021 13:37

He brought up your weight?????

billy1966 · 25/07/2021 14:11

You may think momentarily that the easiest thing to do is give in, go home and hope he will take it on board AFTER 12 years of not giving two shits about how upset you were.

But the truth is it is the much harder road.

He will do everything to prevent you leaving again, of that you can be sure.

You took your chance, you left.

Do not meet him at the house.

Meet him out.

Refuse to discuss things in front of the children.

If he refuses to do as you ask and not discuss it, leave with the children.

This is not a good man.Flowers

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 25/07/2021 15:15

Why can't he take the kids on holiday without you?

Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 17:45

Ok - I am currently back in the house with the dc.
I’ve told him no holiday and we are going back to my mum’s later.
He was sad but seems ok with it. He is still saying he wants the opportunity to be the father and husband he’s never been and he’s let’s us down but he won’t ever let us down again.

He’s also all over me. He keeps trying to kiss me all the time. Apparently the only promise he can’t make me is that he won’t kiss me too much. Then he said he can’t believe how much time he’s wasted not kissing me, holding me, making love to me 🤢🤢🤢🤢
I have tried to be not too physically close because I’m finding it weird. He keeps saying ‘Come and give me one more kiss’ ‘fancy seeing you here, where’s my kiss?’
I am taking the dc back to my mum’s soon. They seem ok. Ds seems quiet. Dd said ‘are we just visiting dad then?’ and seemed ok with that. She’s been playing all afternoon. I think she missed the toys.

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billy1966 · 25/07/2021 17:49

Jesus christ, my skin is crawling reading that.

You poor woman.

He sounds very unstable.

Who behaves like that in the face of you wanting to leave.

Very creepy.

Hopefully one of the knowledgeable posters will come along and explain his behaviour.

He clearly can't bear the thought of no longer having a life with a fulltime skivvy.

Well done for returning to your mothers.
God love you.Flowers

RandomMess · 25/07/2021 17:55

Urgh that's awful.

Cavagirl · 25/07/2021 17:56

"Princess"
"Sweetheart"
All the kisses (are you saying no? Stop? Is he listening? Do you feel able to say no?)

You're just a possession to him, he doesn't relate to you as an equal person, that's clear.

Please make sure you go back to your mum's.

And next time, when he wants to see the kids, he can come to you and take them out for the day!

Cavagirl · 25/07/2021 17:57

Well done on saying no to the holiday.

PicsInRed · 25/07/2021 18:00

If you get pregnant, that'll stop you leaving and he knows that. It's a ploy as old as time - don't let him get you pregnant.

If he was sorry he'd feed the kids, do the dishes, run a hoover around and and clean the toilet. He didn't, because he's not.

CLTB (continue leaving the bastard). Flowers Flowers

Cornfieldrainbows · 25/07/2021 18:16

It’s just so weird.
I can’t really cope with how weird it is.
He’s being super clingy and nice. What the fuck is going on? Have I got this wrong?! It’s just WEIRD. He’s giving up golf. Because he wants to sweetheart. It’s not a sacrifice. He wants to be that father and that husband that he hasn’t been.

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