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I am so trapped

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

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billy1966 · 22/07/2021 23:36

OP, you have written comprehensive posts of the horror of this man and sounding honestly as if you don't wish to go on and now you want to return within 24 hours?

Really?

Think long and hard about the future you want because that awful excuse isn't going to change.

If you go back to him do you seriously think he is going to become a decent man?

He is scum.

Scum that wants his public persona maintained and his skivvy doing everything.

Your choice.

Return and you will be regretting it in hours.
Flowers

MzHz · 23/07/2021 00:20

The anticipation of fear is worse than the fear itself

The fear is a wave, it’s approaching and it will break over you, but you’re going to stand strong holding on to the truth

The truth is your anchor. Hold on tight. Let this wave break and you’ll see how calm everything is on the other side.

Let him go.

He will get more agitated and angry next

Don’t waver. Use this to hold tightly to the truth

This is how I felt, and 10 years on, I’m happy, free and my ds is amazing

I am a better mum without this awful man, I’m happier, I’m love. I’m lucky and blessed and cared for

My ds is strong, and powerful and knows he’s loved. He never has to worry if I’m going to get shouted at or hit.

One time he worried I’d been seriously hurt/killed.

I got out BECAUSE of my ds. Use whatever it takes to stay away from this ma
The only outcome of you returning is that he’ll destroy you AND your dc.

You can read these pricks like a book.

MzHz · 23/07/2021 00:22

@Cornfieldrainbows

Ds is sad. He misses all his things at home. I’m finding this really hard. I feel like I’m damaging the dc.
They are just things.

Things you can get back and into your own home one day.

BishBashBoshBush · 23/07/2021 06:38

He misses his stuff not his dad. How very telling. Don't go back. Kids are tough. Build the future you want to have. Don't go back.

RedRedCampion · 23/07/2021 09:59

How are you doing this morning @Cornfieldrainbows? You're in an impossible situation - you need support to stand up against your husband's forcefulness and sadly as we know your mum is the last person to ask for that support.

People don't usually manage to get away easily from a husband like yours; I think I have read it takes about seven tries. If you end up being sucked back in by his promises to change, pressure from your mum, feeling guilty about the kids moaning etc etc don't leave the thread. Keep talking to us and sharing your feelings.

billy1966 · 23/07/2021 10:35

Have you spoken to women's aid for support?

Flowers
Cornfieldrainbows · 23/07/2021 19:53

I’m struggling. Dh is saying it’s all his fault, he can change, he feels ashamed of his behaviour, he’s let us all down.
Dd has been crying a lot tonight about missing her home and her dad but mainly her home. She’s really tired because not sleeping well because of the heat and now she’s distraught. She’s asking why we aren’t going on holiday tomorrow. She is pretty switched on and knew it was Saturday we were going. I feel like a terrible human.

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BishBashBoshBush · 23/07/2021 22:47

But he can't change- it's been years!

Onthemaintrunkline · 23/07/2021 23:20

How many chances are you going to give this guy? He’s going to promise you the earth in order to have things back to where he likes them. And you know, given time, they most certainly will be. It’s not easy these first few weeks and months, but if you truly want happiness, control and peace of your life this is the path that has to be walked.

GurlNextDoor · 23/07/2021 23:55

You are absolutely right! Being in a toxic relationship with a selfish and uncaring man who sees his young wife as no more than a servant, status symbol & means to an end for raising children is unacceptable.
I've no doubt that OP is attractive, smart & funny when given a chance to relax & be herself. Far better men than him will be lining up to celebrate, support, share the workload, be interested in, like, be a best friend to and love her. But its her choice to be in a relationship & she certainly doesn't need one to be happy.
Which is the only thing that matters & it's vital for the DC to see her choose a happy single life over a miserable married one. If she stays, her son learns that it's right to be a selfish, lazy bully to women & her DD is going to be a mess of daddy issues who will never expect a guy to respect her.
To OP I say leave, Leave, LEAVE!

billy1966 · 24/07/2021 08:58

How are you doing OP?

Cornfieldrainbows · 24/07/2021 09:19

Thank you for all the posts checking on me.

I’m feeling pretty dreadful. I woke with panic and guilt. My mum is being supportive tbh. Dd is asking about holiday again, I just feel so mean off the backdrop of the pandemic when it’s all been pretty miserable, when I know she’d be delighted and it would give her a boost.

DH is still saying he will change. Doesn’t want to play golf anymore. Wants to build the bridges with me and the children. Knows he can. Thinks we all want the same thing. The thing that’s best for all of us. We all need to pull in the same direction. Was thinking he could get up with ds and do the school run two or three times a week. That he could finish on time as work and cook twice a week. That he could take ds to tennis instead of going to play golf and that actually he’d enjoy that more. That we can go to counselling. Together and separately.

He’s desperate and I know I should give it a try for the dc sake. I do feel a bit like - 12 years since ds was born though and he’s never thought this before? And I have told him before but nothing has changed. It’s taken me leaving for him to wake up.

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shakeitoffshakeacocktail · 24/07/2021 09:26

He's had it perfect for HIM the last 12 years. This will be a negative change for him.

He'll slowly revert to old ways (or quickly)

He's a selfish entitled man

God the times I wished that my responsibilities started and ended with a pay check (providing for us) and fuck all else!

shakeitoffshakeacocktail · 24/07/2021 09:30

@Cornfieldrainbows

You said you were seeing a councillor can you get an extra appointment as soon as possible?

Ogham · 24/07/2021 09:33

It sounds like he’s panicking and saying anything to get you back where he wants you. He’d actually prefer to be at his sons tennis than playing golf, well nobody was stoping him from doing just that, yet it’s taken you leaving him to make him suddenly realise he doesn’t want to play golf anymore hmmm.. You KNOW he’ll be back to his old ways within a few weeks and you’ll be back to square one. He’s desperate and saying anything to get you back - it’s like a child having a tantrum and making all the promises to get what they want. The child knows and you know that the promises will never happen x

Cornfieldrainbows · 24/07/2021 09:58

It all feels very sales patter.

We’re pulling towards the same goal sweetheart. That’s why I think we can do it. I want to build those bridges sweetheart. I want to prove I can do it. We all want the same thing and that’s why I think I can build on that love sweetheart. I feel lucky that love is still there sweetheart.

Etc. Etc.

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Shuffleuplove · 24/07/2021 10:07

He is so full of shit. Go back. And within weeks you’ll be in exactly the same position except this time he will know you give in eventually.

Cornfieldrainbows · 24/07/2021 10:08

I think he believes what he is saying.
He’s being very reasonable.
He said his own dad was at work, in the pub, or at golf and he hated it and he can’t believe he’s done the same thing.

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billy1966 · 24/07/2021 10:11

🤢🤮

12 years of absolutely nothing sweetheart and you think I am going to fall for that sweetheart🙄

You know exactly what he is like.

He doesn't want the narrative of a man who didn't lift a finger in his home for 12 years, even when his wife was ill, and she has now left him.

That isn't ticking his box.

He is a truly awful man that thinks you are dim enough to fall for this.

Stay strong and keep reminding him of every occasion when he chose to do NOTHING.

Keeo reminding him of HIS behaviour.

Keeo posting.Flowers

BishBashBoshBush · 24/07/2021 10:41

What @billy1966 said, with bells on.

shakeitoffshakeacocktail · 24/07/2021 10:48

I'd watch out for a full on rage when he doesn't get his own way, he is expecting you to come back and he will be laughing behind your back if you do.

I was really concerned for your mental health in your original post, remember that post, you could barely wake up to live your own life! You were verging on suicidal.

This is YOUR LIFE, you are not a bit part in his

Madamswearsalot · 24/07/2021 10:55

I'm joining late in the day I know but having read through I'd say that you need time to: think, breathe, experience a bit of time not suffocating at home.

If your H is really serious about changing he should allow you that. You could reply to him that you've heard what he's said, that you know he'll now give you some time and space to think deeply about what you do next, that you will only message about the children for the next x days/weeks and you'll let him know when you feel ready to discuss next steps for your relationship.

If he doesn't respect this and continues to message promises of change in expectation that you'll return it's a clear sign that he's trying to keep you off balance so that you give in and return.

He could also show commitment to change by starting counselling alone.

You can use this time to really get in touch with what you want. I'm sure it's been said already but sacrificing your whole self for the sake of your children is a crazy idea and I think you've already discovered that a core part of you won't allow it - your physical and mental state at this current time are a result of you trying to do that. It's just not possible.

Your children will feel many things during this time. Some of them won't be happy feelings but that doesn't mean that they are damaged long term. You are the adult here and you have the long view - something they aren't capable of.

And this is the long view - a mother who laughs, eats, enjoys life and models a healthy relationship with herself and others. What you are subliminally teaching your children about relationships now will stay with them into adulthood. It is no surprise that you have ended up in a marriage with someone who does not regard you as an equal partner - what you learned in your childhood will have directly influenced this.

Cornfieldrainbows · 24/07/2021 10:59

I know I can’t keep on like this.
I can’t eat and I look like a bag lady. All my clothes are massive. 😬😬😬

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Cornfieldrainbows · 24/07/2021 11:02

I also think he will turn if I say I’m not going back or we aren’t going away on holiday.

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rosalindwi · 24/07/2021 11:07

Such a difficult situation. As sad as I am for the marriage breakup, I am feeling sadder that your mum just isn't supporting you. You need her right now. This would make me feel seriously alienated from her