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The One Where Geller Proves He Is As Useful As A Chocolate Teapot

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 28/06/2021 21:48

Hear that ticking my lovelies?

Tick

Tock

Tick

Tock

That’s the sound of the bomb I have just thrown over the metaphorical trench edge at Geller. Here’s the previous thread if you need to catch up. As ever, thank you for the support and the cheering and the banter and for giving me fresh perspectives.

I am fucking DONE. Done with this. I need to stand up and fight for the girls. He is NEVER going to do what he needs to for them.

So I picked them up from school and they were quiet but ok. We’ve had pizza in our pjs and they’re asleep. I have had a barrage of questions about who I have seen this weekend and what I’ve been doing and why am I wearing new clothes and do I have new friends and am I working as much as I should be etc etc. Clearly fed by him, they’ve never done that before.

Then I get this (he hadn’t responded to my previous message at all)

How is DD1?

We can talk albeit I have very little time in the next few days. Strangely someone praised me this weekend for how well I dealt with one of her meltdowns. She really struggled with the homework. Together we bought various materials while DD2 was having her hair cut. But of course when she made it, it didn’t go well. However she and I did it together first thing Sunday before DD2 woke and she did it brilliantly.

It was DD1 that led our walk while DD2 was a pain and tried to stop us going, finally relenting after the first field.

Both of them played brilliantly with the boys over the other side of the fence. But it’s the usual challenge of when they are on their own in a small space. It’s simply a very intense thing single parenting. And I can’t break DD1 on sleeping alone and I’m not prepared for it to become tears and anger. As I say she ended up watching the football and was engrossed.

So I said

I also have very little time. So I’ll leave it to you to figure it out.

She is in bed, asleep, with clean hair. They have both been quiet and we have talked about zero tolerance for violence, shouting and arguing. and what that means and the importance of kind words and being gentle and how to act when you’re angry and that you need to be mindful of the words that come out of your mouth as they can upset people. I repeat, next week I will email to discuss the shape of the next school year as it sounds like the current arrangement isn't working for the girls if they are that short of sleep and upset at the start of the school week. The girls need you in their life but it needs to come at a lower emotional cost for them and for me.

I would like to make you aware the level of messaging is unwelcome, and that I am looking to address this and agree on appropriate levels of communication moving forward.

I await the nuclear explosion which will no doubt follow.

I. Am. Done.

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SortingItOut · 27/09/2021 07:36

Not sure where his logic is coming from, all petrol stations are getting deliveries still.
In fact I would say the more rural ones are likely to have petrol/diesel as people are going to the towns to buy and not considering the smaller ones.

I live rurally and the 2 petrol stations near me were the only ones in the area with fuel yesterday.

I think he means he is big and important, his time is worth more than yours so therefore you must collect the girls and it doesn't matter that you might have other plans.

RandomMess · 27/09/2021 07:39

TBH with the Christmas thing you've already told him you won't change and to stick with the usual rota and he is refusing to accept them - it's become one of your hills to die on.

He really does think he is still your boss.

bigbaggyeyes · 27/09/2021 07:59

'I think what you meant to say is 'please can you help out with the girls as I'm stuck in a hole, I'd really appreciate it and I owe you one'. As for Christmas, I've told you my decision, I don't need to discuss it further'

pussycatlickinglollyices · 27/09/2021 09:03

Have you told him you have no petrol either, so he'll have to cough up for a taxi? Wink

mbosnz · 27/09/2021 09:34

@bigbaggyeyes

'I think what you meant to say is 'please can you help out with the girls as I'm stuck in a hole, I'd really appreciate it and I owe you one'. As for Christmas, I've told you my decision, I don't need to discuss it further'
That is sheer poetry. Absolutely beautiful!
Newestname002 · 27/09/2021 10:11

@Sandunesandseashells

“That doesn’t work for me” on repeat.

I've actually started using this IRL and so relieved this phrase works. After initially rocking the other person back on their heels... the trick is not going into any details about why "this doesn't work for me".. 🌹

noideawhatusernametochoose · 27/09/2021 11:32

Polly I am loving the message-ignoring. That's genius.

Please make sure you're unavailable for the Thursday slot he's graciously deigned to offer to you...

StuckInPollyannaMode · 27/09/2021 12:28

Quelle surprise - he has managed to get petrol. What a load of hot air over nothing.

I’m going to send ‘Thursday doesn’t work for me.’

God I’m tired.

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AcrossthePond55 · 27/09/2021 12:43

He's testing, testing, testing you to see how much control he still has over you and to try and figure the point at which you'll 'cave'. Just like a toddler.

It's frustrating, but you're just going to have to 'wait him out' on this until he finally figures out he's beating his head against a stone wall. It's one of the reasons that, for now, you won't be able to give him an inch. Unless it suits you, of course.

Justilou1 · 27/09/2021 12:51

Absolutely write “Thursday doesn’t work for me.” - tomorrow.

RandomMess · 27/09/2021 12:52

How about

"There is nothing to discuss, contact us as usual and you will need to host Santa and Christmas for the DDs"?

noideawhatusernametochoose · 27/09/2021 13:11

@RandomMess

How about

"There is nothing to discuss, contact us as usual and you will need to host Santa and Christmas for the DDs"?

This.

Or just, "Chrismas falls on your contact days. I suppose you're worried that I will miss out. Don't worry, I will be fine, so there is no need to change the contact pattern."

prettybird · 27/09/2021 13:34

"Chrismas falls on your contact days. I suppose you're worried that I will miss out. Don't worry, I will be fine, so there is no need to change the contact pattern."

I like this one. False empathy that bats away any false concern he might have and shows it up for what it is: the inability to "do" Christmas himself Grin

RandomMess · 27/09/2021 13:54

This meeting is because you told him you could change arrangements but won't.

So you absolutely need to shut it down.

Possibly add on, our plans have been made around my contact time with the DC.

pussycatlickinglollyices · 27/09/2021 13:57

@RandomMess

This meeting is because you told him you could change arrangements but won't.

So you absolutely need to shut it down.

Possibly add on, our plans have been made around my contact time with the DC.

Isn't the problem then that he will know Polly has plans and will try even harder to scupper them?
AcrossthePond55 · 27/09/2021 14:16

@RandomMess

This meeting is because you told him you could change arrangements but won't.

So you absolutely need to shut it down.

Possibly add on, our plans have been made around my contact time with the DC.

Absolutely true. Messaging you hasn't worked so he wants to get you on his 'turf' in person where he'll thinks he'll be able to 'trap' you until he browbeats you into compliance.

An old tactic and one my abusive ex used to use. He'd refuse to allow me to just walk away and would follow me about the house constantly yammering and spouting abuse until I couldn't stand it anymore and I caved just to make it stop.

Never advance into enemy territory if you don't absolutely have to. And then have back up and plenty of 'ammo'.

noideawhatusernametochoose · 27/09/2021 14:57

^ Yes, this. Why can't he sort this out over text or email?
Because he's not winning.
So he's shifting tactic.

Stand firm Polly Grin

Lunde · 27/09/2021 15:15

Tell him you might be able to find a "window" for him on zoom but cannot meet in person as you are conserving your petrol.

There is no need to do this in person - he obviously just wants to browbeat you until you give in - at least if you do it on zoom you can have "internet problems" and cut him off

billy1966 · 27/09/2021 15:23

Agree with the text that he can do Christmas and refusing to meet in person.

He is a bully.
Deprive him of the chance to browbeat you.

Stay strong.
You are nearly there.

Flowers
frazzledasarock · 27/09/2021 15:28

I concur with everyone else.

Don’t go for the ‘meeting’, what’s their to hold a meeting about anyway?

Just respond.

I am currently unavailable for in person meetings.

We will be sticking to the contact schedule over Christmas.

I’d only say that about meetings to piss him off
😆

Justilou1 · 27/09/2021 15:35

I think @StuckInPollyannaMode has made it very VERY clear that meeting him was never on the cards. She’s just venting about him being a dog with a bone.

CharityDingle · 27/09/2021 15:38

@prettybird

"Chrismas falls on your contact days. I suppose you're worried that I will miss out. Don't worry, I will be fine, so there is no need to change the contact pattern."

I like this one. False empathy that bats away any false concern he might have and shows it up for what it is: the inability to "do" Christmas himself Grin

I like this ^^ too. Fakery and that's all he deserves.

'There's no need for meetings, there's nothing to discuss.'

StuckInPollyannaMode · 27/09/2021 19:01

I INTERRUPT THIS BROADCAST WITH A NEWSFLASH!!

Roll of drums....

HE HAS AGREED TO THE SETTLEMENT!!

Complete with my caveats.

Actual tears of relief. No wonder he's been such a shit this past week.

Oh, and I've told him no re Thursday. Any requests need to be put in writing so I can consider them at the appropriate time.

Oh my god. Could I actually, REALLY, be divorced by Christmas?!

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pussycatlickinglollyices · 27/09/2021 19:04

Well done, Polly! 🎉

GinIronic · 27/09/2021 19:08

Wonderful news!

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