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I don't like how my friend is around my boyfriend

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Sillysandy · 03/06/2021 10:40

This is too long to give all the details so I will try to paint an overall picture without dripfeeding.

I am with my DP five years. In the two years before I met him I became close friends with a woman I knew through a mutual friend. We got on great. We were both single and both open about the fact we wanted to meet someone. I did an awful lot of dating, OLD and otherwise. She did very very little.

I met my DP and it got serious fairly quickly. I was conscious not to be one of those women who vanishes as soon as a man appears. She seemed keener to spend time with us as a couple. They share a hobby so that is a common ground for them to talk about.

So here is my 'problem'.

She would openly do herself up when he was arriving - even asking to borrow my makeup bag so she looked ok for him and then talking to him like he was the only person in the room.
She mocked me when I said honestly I wouldn't like them meeting up alone (or him any any new woman friend) for their hobby. My argument was they both have lots of people to train with, why would they seek out to train together? She has repeatedly asked him to do so despite him saying no for years. She often does this as soon as I leave their company but has said it in my earshot too often with a sarcastic "if that's allowed" thrown in. He always says no, busy.
She asks him to come to her house to do DIY projects. He did a couple for her but brought his daughter to the first. I came (unexpectedly for her) the next time and was horrified to see that she was extremely done up. He has said no since then for favours, I had to intervene and say we had too much to do at home. She asked him again after that which I really felt was pushing it.
They have ended up in the same training group for their hobby. She made some unnecessary remarks about him 'being the worst' for eyeing up other women all the time. I felt humiliated and unsettled as i have not seen this side of him and also don't know if it's true. Of course it could be but I can't imagine how she would be able to tell and really, I don't want to know. Myself and DP ended up having an argument about it. He said she's a troublemaker and he doesn't know why I don't tell her to f off.

One night in our earlier dating days she had too much to drink. She was telling me how lonely she felt and how she craved a solid relationship. All fine, I sympathised and understood. Then she went on to talk about how there would have been some challenges if the timing had been different and she had met my DP first. She babbled on about what would have worked between them and also what would not have worked - she talked about it in detail, the pros and cons. I was so stunned i just sat there. I assumed (as I'm sure anyone reading this has too) that he expressed some interest in her at some stage either directly or indirectly but I'm now sure this is not the case having talked openly with him about it.

It looks like a simple fix - meet them both separately but it's not that simple. For one thing, they have become connected by their hobby. He is exasperated by her (the stuff I've outlined above is an example of what goes on a lot) and has offered to just not be in the group but he has friends there, it's local and i don't want him to be training alone when he enjoys the group and I do now (I was wary initially) fully believe he's done nothing wrong.

So this brings me to the bit that I find a bit more sinister. When DP and I met I also had my own fitness related hobbies so our weekends were largely spent doing these types of activities. I became very ill a year and a half ago and have undergone gruelling treatment. It left me bald, physically very limited and very overweight - all temporarily. My friend is extremely thin which I've come to realise she is quite obsessional about.

There are too many to list here but I've had this unnerving sense of her using it against me. The comment about him eyeing up other women was oddly timed. I was dressed up, had a new platinum wig on and was getting lots of compliments and funny comments from the men. They all knew I had been through it and it felt very good natured and kind. That's just one example but there are lots of incidences of her bringing up 'my weight issue' in company with no context. I don't deny I have a weight issue as in I openly state I gained a lot during my treatment and am keen to get back exercising. But it feels designed to put me in my place, remarks about what I should be eating, how I need to be careful.

The night she was upset about being lonely I was pre-illness and getting a lot of very unwanted attention from a table of drunk men. She said to me with a perfectly straight face that something strange was going on, normally she would be the one getting all the attention and maybe she had done a bad job with her makeup. That's good she feels like that but I could not understand why she would need to say that to me. In hindsight this feels like a pattern - she gets a dig in and I can't help thinking she was then trying to sow doubt talking about the bad timing with her and my boyfriend. But I could be seeing what I want to see.

It sounds dramatic but I feel like I'm being controlled and bullied at times. Like she has formed an alliance in her head with my partner and I am the poor fat dead weight who needs to be reprimanded.

I am not sure if I have explained it well. It's hard to pick out relevant examples as it's more of an ongoing thing.

If you've got this far - thank you!

To try to pre-empt a few reactions.

I don't think my DP played any part in this or enjoys the attention. This had been explored and I'm satisfied he is blameless.

She has been a very very good friend to me otherwise.

I don't know if I'm being extra vulnerable due to my illness.

I don't think she is after him - who does that? But I feel she wants to feel that he would be with her except for the unfortunate circumstances of having met me first and bizarrely wants me to acknowledge this.

I feel vulnerable after what I've been through and not really trusting my judgment. I don't know if I'm actually paranoid or if I'm right to be wary. I feel like she has played on my insecurities because she has been finding her own life hard and I should distance myself from her.

Then another part of me thinks 'ugh don't be that awful woman who finds a man and all of a sudden single women friends are the enemy and must be kept away."

I'd be really interested to hear any perspectives but please be kind. I feel silly and petty already.

OP posts:
littlebitnonchalant · 03/06/2021 10:45

How has she been a good friend to you otherwise? Because it seems like all she’s tried to do since you met your partner is take him for herself. I’d be very wary.
And I also think you’ve done more than enough to prove you’re not “that awful woman who finds a man and all of a sudden single women friends are the enemy and must be kept away”.

Mulberry974 · 03/06/2021 10:47

I'm sorry but I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. At the very least she's flirting with your partner and even if he doesn't reciprocate that's disrespectful to you. Step away and distance from her.

Lobelia123 · 03/06/2021 10:49

She sounds like a nasty, jealous, toxic piece of work - playing head games and gaslighting you, planting seeds of distrust and insecurity, running you down at times in your life when youve been very low. She sounds borderline fixated with your partner and like an absolute vile piece of shit. Please, distance yourself. You sound absolutely lovely and like you have many other real supportive friends and a lovely partner who loves you. Why expose yourself to this nasty piece of work ...she sounds like she wants to poison every happy thing she comes across.

User629202 · 03/06/2021 10:50

Bloody hell OP, she’s not a good friend! She’s an unkind bully who puts you down and has openly made moves on your partner.

You owe her literally nothing - cut her out of your life and be happy!

AllIknowsofar · 03/06/2021 10:51

I would end the friendship straight away. I can’t see why you have kept in touch with her. Even if she has the same hobby as your bf, it doesn’t matter if he is genuinely not interested.

VanceRefridgeration · 03/06/2021 10:52

I'm so sorry you're going through such a tough time with your health and wish you all the best. From what you have said, your DP sounds like a stand up guy.

Your friend on the other hand sounds toxic.

Ask yourself, if this was a relationship, would you stay with this person? Would you stay with someone who you didn't trust (rightly so from what you say), who put you down to make themselves feel good, who openly criticised you or drew attention to things you were self conscious off in front of company? If this were a relationship you'd have broken up well before this. So why put up with this as a friendship?

I'd start to back away and focus on yourself, your health and enjoying life without her dragging you down

Beeeeeeeeeeeeeep · 03/06/2021 10:55

I had a friend who would flirt with every friend's partner to prove she could get them if she wanted. At least I assume that's what she was doing. It was pretty gross and people stopped bringing partners to meet her. Some people are just like this.

Nuggetnugget · 03/06/2021 10:59

Oh my god this is awful and your husband can see what is going on.
I would back off from her. She is not a friend in anyway shape or form.
She is truly selfish awful and cricital

Good to hear your health is on the mend.

clopper · 03/06/2021 11:00

She is not a good friend to you. She seeks to undermine you and is jealous of your relationship. Set her loose and your self esteem will grow I’m sure. She is an unkind bully

bellsbuss · 03/06/2021 11:00

You need to get this woman out of your life , she is not your friend. She's a nasty bitch

AngusThermopyle · 03/06/2021 11:01

She's your 'friend' you say?
No she isn't. It's clearly obvious to anyone outside, including your DP, that she's not your friend. You need to cut this one loose.

MangosteenSoda · 03/06/2021 11:02

Step right away from that ‘friendship’. The fact that she trains with your DP is neither here nor there. He can continue to shut down her unwanted advances. Don’t waste your time and friendship on someone so mean!

Luckingfovely · 03/06/2021 11:03

She is not a good friend, or indeed any sort of friend.

You have been incredibly patient with her appalling behaviour, too much to be honest.

Both you and you partner should immediately block her on every possible platform, and never speak to her again.

PollyDarton1 · 03/06/2021 11:05

I had a friend like this. Very chaotic and perpetually lonely as she would meet men and then become obsessional about them.

When I met DH she came round one evening dolled up to the nines and got ridiculously drunk and threw herself at him. Other friends said she's done the same thing to their partners. She says she does it to test loyalty. I think it's just her being attention seeking (which she is) so I binned her off after that.

She's not a friend if she's trying to shoe horn herself into his life and making overt comments. She's toxic and seems to think the world owes her something and can't fathom why he's with you.

Umberellatheweatha · 03/06/2021 11:06

She is not your friend.

It's standard narcissistic personality disorder bullcrap when they flirt with men you like/your partner. Real obvious red flag. Abusers can be found in friendships too, not just relationships.

This girl means you harm. And she wants your bf to like her instead of you because she sees you as her competition. Competition she means to destroy.

Get her completely out of your life. Even if it ultimately means leaving your partner too.

AlltheFlorals · 03/06/2021 11:09

She is NOT a good friend. Aside from the boyfriend stuff, the lack of support over your illness. Friends don't behave like that. Just ditch her, and get bf to attend another exercise class. Do not feel guilty about it. Trust your instincts on this one.

Patapouf · 03/06/2021 11:10

She's a total bitch and she is not your friend. Cut all contact immediately.

Whether your DP is a problem is a conversation you need to have with him.

VodkaSlimline · 03/06/2021 11:10

He said she's a troublemaker and he doesn't know why I don't tell her to f off.

I agree with your DP. I can't imagine why you would continue a friendship with someone who says cruel things to you, uses the effects of your illness to put you down, and is clearly trying to shag your partner. Cut her out of your life and if DP can find an alternative group for his hobby, so much the better.

Chailatteplease · 03/06/2021 11:16

First thing you need to do is stop doubting yourself.

Second thing is dump her.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 03/06/2021 11:17

Seems to me that there's a very good reason that you found a nice partner and she didn't.

Cut her loose and tell her exactly why. No second chances and no shame if anyone asks what's happened. This is NOT a mess of your making.

oopsydaisyyy · 03/06/2021 11:17

get rid if the nasty cow!!

AutoIncorrect · 03/06/2021 11:18

Just fuck her off she’s a snake! She’s got you tying yourself in knots and feeling guilty for wanting to pull back from her. Fuck that noise bin bin bin!

chorusline79 · 03/06/2021 11:18

Does she bring anything positive to your life? She sounds insecure and spiteful. Life is too short for this crap. I would stay away from her as she sounds like a rubbish friend to you and in my mind friends support each other and want the best for one another.

CuriousandReady · 03/06/2021 11:19

Oh OP. What a tough situation. It sounds to me that this friendship has run its course and it’s time to move on from her.

Golden2021 · 03/06/2021 11:19

Drop this woman immediately. She doesn't even like you, probably hates you. She wants what you have. You need to wake up. Drop her and claim yourself and your life back.