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I don't like how my friend is around my boyfriend

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Sillysandy · 03/06/2021 10:40

This is too long to give all the details so I will try to paint an overall picture without dripfeeding.

I am with my DP five years. In the two years before I met him I became close friends with a woman I knew through a mutual friend. We got on great. We were both single and both open about the fact we wanted to meet someone. I did an awful lot of dating, OLD and otherwise. She did very very little.

I met my DP and it got serious fairly quickly. I was conscious not to be one of those women who vanishes as soon as a man appears. She seemed keener to spend time with us as a couple. They share a hobby so that is a common ground for them to talk about.

So here is my 'problem'.

She would openly do herself up when he was arriving - even asking to borrow my makeup bag so she looked ok for him and then talking to him like he was the only person in the room.
She mocked me when I said honestly I wouldn't like them meeting up alone (or him any any new woman friend) for their hobby. My argument was they both have lots of people to train with, why would they seek out to train together? She has repeatedly asked him to do so despite him saying no for years. She often does this as soon as I leave their company but has said it in my earshot too often with a sarcastic "if that's allowed" thrown in. He always says no, busy.
She asks him to come to her house to do DIY projects. He did a couple for her but brought his daughter to the first. I came (unexpectedly for her) the next time and was horrified to see that she was extremely done up. He has said no since then for favours, I had to intervene and say we had too much to do at home. She asked him again after that which I really felt was pushing it.
They have ended up in the same training group for their hobby. She made some unnecessary remarks about him 'being the worst' for eyeing up other women all the time. I felt humiliated and unsettled as i have not seen this side of him and also don't know if it's true. Of course it could be but I can't imagine how she would be able to tell and really, I don't want to know. Myself and DP ended up having an argument about it. He said she's a troublemaker and he doesn't know why I don't tell her to f off.

One night in our earlier dating days she had too much to drink. She was telling me how lonely she felt and how she craved a solid relationship. All fine, I sympathised and understood. Then she went on to talk about how there would have been some challenges if the timing had been different and she had met my DP first. She babbled on about what would have worked between them and also what would not have worked - she talked about it in detail, the pros and cons. I was so stunned i just sat there. I assumed (as I'm sure anyone reading this has too) that he expressed some interest in her at some stage either directly or indirectly but I'm now sure this is not the case having talked openly with him about it.

It looks like a simple fix - meet them both separately but it's not that simple. For one thing, they have become connected by their hobby. He is exasperated by her (the stuff I've outlined above is an example of what goes on a lot) and has offered to just not be in the group but he has friends there, it's local and i don't want him to be training alone when he enjoys the group and I do now (I was wary initially) fully believe he's done nothing wrong.

So this brings me to the bit that I find a bit more sinister. When DP and I met I also had my own fitness related hobbies so our weekends were largely spent doing these types of activities. I became very ill a year and a half ago and have undergone gruelling treatment. It left me bald, physically very limited and very overweight - all temporarily. My friend is extremely thin which I've come to realise she is quite obsessional about.

There are too many to list here but I've had this unnerving sense of her using it against me. The comment about him eyeing up other women was oddly timed. I was dressed up, had a new platinum wig on and was getting lots of compliments and funny comments from the men. They all knew I had been through it and it felt very good natured and kind. That's just one example but there are lots of incidences of her bringing up 'my weight issue' in company with no context. I don't deny I have a weight issue as in I openly state I gained a lot during my treatment and am keen to get back exercising. But it feels designed to put me in my place, remarks about what I should be eating, how I need to be careful.

The night she was upset about being lonely I was pre-illness and getting a lot of very unwanted attention from a table of drunk men. She said to me with a perfectly straight face that something strange was going on, normally she would be the one getting all the attention and maybe she had done a bad job with her makeup. That's good she feels like that but I could not understand why she would need to say that to me. In hindsight this feels like a pattern - she gets a dig in and I can't help thinking she was then trying to sow doubt talking about the bad timing with her and my boyfriend. But I could be seeing what I want to see.

It sounds dramatic but I feel like I'm being controlled and bullied at times. Like she has formed an alliance in her head with my partner and I am the poor fat dead weight who needs to be reprimanded.

I am not sure if I have explained it well. It's hard to pick out relevant examples as it's more of an ongoing thing.

If you've got this far - thank you!

To try to pre-empt a few reactions.

I don't think my DP played any part in this or enjoys the attention. This had been explored and I'm satisfied he is blameless.

She has been a very very good friend to me otherwise.

I don't know if I'm being extra vulnerable due to my illness.

I don't think she is after him - who does that? But I feel she wants to feel that he would be with her except for the unfortunate circumstances of having met me first and bizarrely wants me to acknowledge this.

I feel vulnerable after what I've been through and not really trusting my judgment. I don't know if I'm actually paranoid or if I'm right to be wary. I feel like she has played on my insecurities because she has been finding her own life hard and I should distance myself from her.

Then another part of me thinks 'ugh don't be that awful woman who finds a man and all of a sudden single women friends are the enemy and must be kept away."

I'd be really interested to hear any perspectives but please be kind. I feel silly and petty already.

OP posts:
booboo24 · 03/06/2021 11:21

She is the epitome of a jealous controlling downright horrible person! Why do you think she's a good friend? Your poor husband must be exasperated by it all. Seriously, lose the "friend" I'm sure your confidence will come bounding back and then with the benefit of hindsight you'll see what a terrible person she is. Credit where it's due to your husband for doing the right thing here every step of the way.

I'm so sorry to see you've been so poorly, I hope you're well on the mend now, I would make losing her a part of your recovery

FatCatThinCat · 03/06/2021 11:22

I agree with the others, she's not your friend. She is constantly trying to drag you down and would happily destroy you relationship given the chance. Friends don't do that.

mbosnz · 03/06/2021 11:23

I'm with your DH - tell her to eff off. Right to the other side of off, and then eff off some more.

She sounds a nasty, toxic bundle of goods, and no wonder she's sooooo lonely.

She's no friend of yourn.

ThisMammaCat · 03/06/2021 11:23

OP, you have tolerated more than enough from this painted snake of a "friend." You ABSOLUTELY deserve better. Don't feel bad about cutting her off, people like her rely on people being too nice to tell her where to go.

Mydarlingmyhamburger · 03/06/2021 11:23

She’s literally trying to steal your partner from you, even making you feel shit about yourself to feed your insecurities. Your partners actually telling you to bin her off, why are you still talking to her??

Eviebeans · 03/06/2021 11:24

Have you asked your partner what he thinks should happen about your friendship?
What exactly do you get from the friendship with her?

reprehensibleme · 03/06/2021 11:25

She is after him and had shown it multiple times.

Your DP appears to be a good egg.

You are coming across as loving the drama. She's not worth it. She's shown you who she is.
Bin her.

Concentrate on getting well and on your relationship with your DP, because it sounds as if he's worth it.

starfishmummy · 03/06/2021 11:25

Then another part of me thinks 'ugh don't be that awful woman who finds a man and all of a sudden single women friends are the enemy and must be kept away."

I think in thks case she is the enemy. I wouldn't make a big thing of dropping her as a friend or she will play the victim to everyone she knows, just gradually be less available to see her and stop inviting her round.

Ickythefirebobby · 03/06/2021 11:26

Goodness me she’s no kind of friend. What you’ve listed alone is enough for you and your boyfriend to bin her. She is absolutely toxic. You must be able to see that. You say she’s been a very very good friend otherwise. She hasn’t. Friends don’t behave in this way, at all. They don’t compartmentalise their friendship. She sounds awful.

greatauntfanny · 03/06/2021 11:27

why are you friends with this woman!?!?

Eviebeans · 03/06/2021 11:27

Any friend who makes you feel like the "poor fat dead weight" is no friend at all and would be getting the heave ho from me!

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp · 03/06/2021 11:28

She's not your friend.

She's very competitive with you.

She hates that you get any attention.

She hates that you have a dp and she doesn't.

She also hates that she can't take him off you and therefore demonstrate her superiority to you.

I think she doesn't like you very much either as a result but is compelled to keep trying to 'win'.

I think you should try and see much much less of her.

Don't confide in her.

And avoid conversation about your dp with her.

She sounds horrendous. No wonder you're upset.

thisplaceisweird · 03/06/2021 11:31

This: She mocked me when I said honestly I wouldn't like them meeting up alone stuck with me.

She's found your 'weakness' and is doubling down on it. She's not a trustworthy friend and either revels in winding you up, or just wants to steal your man

Bluedeblue · 03/06/2021 11:31

This has to be a wind up surely? I can't imagine that anyone would put up with this behaviour.

flashbac · 03/06/2021 11:31

With friends like these who needs enemies?

BreatheAndFocus · 03/06/2021 11:35

She’s not your friend! She’s using you because she’s probably lonely (no wonder!). It doesn’t sound as though she likes you or supports you in any way at all. She’s cruel and spiteful.

Take your DP’s advice and ditch the nasty cow! You’ll feel a lot better when you’ve done so.

MjonathanB · 03/06/2021 11:37

OP, every response so far is totally anti your friend, saying she’s a manipulative, untrustworthy snake. I think someone should offer a more sympathetic, sensitive perspective.

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...er...

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.....nope. There isn’t one. She’s a manipulative, untrustworthy snake.

User657849 · 03/06/2021 11:37

I don’t know if you’ll follow the advice given here by everyone to distance yourself from her.

If still in doubt about what to do, I’m sure if your doctor read this post, he/she would tell you the anxiety this friendship is bringing to your life might not be good for your recovery.

Bluedeblue · 03/06/2021 11:38

I don't think she is after him

You can't be serious?

She has been a very very good friend to me otherwise

Even if she was a good friend in the past, she's no friend now, and that is what matters. I had a lovely friend for about 5 years. We were as close as friends can be. Until her DH left her and she became single. She turned in to a nightmare overnight and started sleeping with her friends husbands, mine included. Just because she was a nice friend before, this doesn't cancel out the bad behaviour that followed. I cut her off instantly and have never spoken to her since. I also left my husband.

My point is, you need to deal with the "friend" you have before you now. She absolutely hates you. She is most definitely trying to get your DP for herself. You need to go complete NC with her and tell her why. Anything less and you're just being a total mug.

Bluedeblue · 03/06/2021 11:41

And FFS, stop worrying about what she thinks! All this worrying about not wanting to be the "type of friend that drops people when they get a man". She's quite happy to be the "type of friend who tries to steal friends boyfriends", so who gives 2 fucks what she thinks. Cut her off and tell anyone who will listen exactly why.

Worldwide2 · 03/06/2021 11:43

She sounds absolutely vile. Get rid of her you don't need someone like that in your life honestly. Cut her out that's all.

GabsAlot · 03/06/2021 11:48

how has she been a good friend-if this was before your partner fine but it sounds like shes very jealous if not bordering on trying to take your partner and all the comments about you are out of order

you dont doll yourself up and put makeup on when someones partner is due home

Summersnake · 03/06/2021 11:53

Frenemie
She’s not your friend
She wants your man and worse than that
She doesn’t think you deserve him

amusedtodeath1 · 03/06/2021 11:57

You sound like a truly lovely loyal person. Sadly it's always genuine lovely people who end up with friends or partners like your friend. She really isn't your friend.

Friends don't flirt with your partner, they don't take their jealousy out on their friends, they don't constantly put their friends down. And the worst part of it is that she doesn't care enough about your feelings to hide any of it, nevermind not do it at all.

She may have had your best interests at heart in the beginning when you were (in her eyes) equal. Now you have what she wants, she doesn't see you in the same way.

Your DP sounds awesome and I agree with him that you should tell her to fuck right off.

You don't have to feel guilty because you are happy and she is not. She is not looking at why she can't find the relationship she wants, because if her behaviour in a relationship is anywhere near as weird as your friendship it's no wonder no one wants to be in a relationship with her.

BlueButtercups · 03/06/2021 12:02

Get this Cow out if your life today 🌸

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