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Son (16) and his flaky girlfriend

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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:20

My son is 16 and he’s had a girlfriend (16) for the past 9 months. During lockdown he obviously couldn’t see her, but now he’s trying to make up for lost time.

Meet up 1 arrangements - she cancelled because she didn’t feel well.

Meet up 2 - she cancelled because “her parents were being mean”.

Meet up 3 - she ghosted DS when making plans and said she fell asleep

Meet 4 - she agreed to meet, confirmed the morning of and then ghosted DS

Throughout the Easter holiday she didn’t see him once, but was out a lot with friends.

Meet 5 - DS turns up at her house (invited) and she cried (wouldn’t say why), hugged him and fell asleep, but he was thrilled to see her regardless

Meet 6 - Arranged but she ghosted him and didn’t answer her texts the day of.

DS was upset so explained to her that - at her request he was going to forgo his family holiday (long holiday long haul) this year so she wouldn’t miss him and so they could meet up, but if this was how it was going to be, then he’d have to rethink. She promised the earth, “no don’t go on your holiday, my parents are looking forward to taking us on day trips”. So my son said, if you can’t make a meet, then that’s no problem, just say that...but the ghosting has to stop. She agreed.

Meet 7 - arranged and day of she ghosted him and said she fell asleep again

Meet 8 - Parents were mean abs so she went to sleep hence the ghosting.

Meet 9 - arranged in advance and this time I was due to pick her up and bring her to ours. The day of, she ghosted DS and I wasn’t sure what was happening. Finally she messaged ‘I can still come over, but the traffic is bad and I’m going to be home really late from school’.
I said ‘DS, sounds like she wants you to cancel’...he says ‘no no, can we pick her up but later?’ I say ok, so he texts back that we’ll pick her up whatever time she likes. No reply. Nothing. An hour passes and I say, look, she’s not coming. I have to go out.
DS is upset, but resigns himself. We go out. He sends her a message saying ‘forget it then’. He gets an IMMEDIATE response “I was just about to text you that I can still come and I’m ready”. DS says ‘that’s great! I’ll call my mum!”.

He phones me and although DH and I have just got to where we were going, we leave and come straight back to get him. DS has hopped in the shower and is getting ready. Girlfriend texts and says ‘I’ve had a shit day at school and now this. All my parents wanted to do was spend some time with me. I’m so pissed off. I’m not coming over’.

DS is devastated. He breaks down and is inconsolable. It’s disappointment after disappointment. She told him not to text back, so he hasn’t. He did however blame me saying ‘if only you’d waited...’.

I was furious after being dragged home to pick her up. I personally think she’s wasting his time and his studies and MH are suffering. She’s young and immature and clearly isn’t ready for all this. Not her fault, but I want him to move on and focus on other things.

I’ve told him that this isn’t how it’s meant to be. That it’s meant to be fun and lighthearted at his age...but he just gets upset with me.

He hasn’t got out of bed all weekend now and is utterly depressed. She was also be meant to be coming over tomorrow, but I suspect she won’t be.

How can I make him see that he’s wasting his time and affecting his school and other social life?

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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:21

Oh god, sorry that’s so long Blush

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jessetta28 · 24/04/2021 17:26

Poor guy. I’m not sure whether you can really, she’s obviously not ready for a nice boyfriend and he might need to learn the time honoured way of splitting up! Just gently remind him and be there for him as much as you can while it plays out.

Although if he splits up with her I’m sure she’d magically be back into him, knowing girls of that age...

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 24/04/2021 17:29

Please stop enabling him to keep humiliating himself.

Is his dad on the scene? He seems to have a very unhealthy idea of how to set boundaries in a relationship and that you can and should walk away from someone who is treating you without respect.

I don't know what communication is usually like between you and DS but I told mine at a similar age "That girl is mugging you off and probably shagging someone else" (I was right) - plain honest speaking was best for us.

rainbowandglitter · 24/04/2021 17:34

Why is he putting up with this?

Cattingaboot · 24/04/2021 17:34

Sorry op, but DS is being mugged off.

Tell him to call it off with her, she's clearly not interested.

Zancah · 24/04/2021 17:34

Step back and leave them to it. She does sound flakey and self absorbed, but a lot of teenagers are.
Take him on holiday though, I'd not be taking no for an answer the if she's only going to mess him about and he's only staying here for her.

Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:35

@jessetta28

Poor guy. I’m not sure whether you can really, she’s obviously not ready for a nice boyfriend and he might need to learn the time honoured way of splitting up! Just gently remind him and be there for him as much as you can while it plays out.

Although if he splits up with her I’m sure she’d magically be back into him, knowing girls of that age...

Thank you for replying. I have told him we are here for him and he does confide in us and trust us. But my patience is wearing thin and I did tell him that she’s not acting like a very nice person...which upset him further. Hmm He’s very sensitive. When he does pull away, she comes right back with the hearts in the text messages and he falls right back into it. I feel completely helpless and have resorted to just hoping she’ll finish with him. It’s stressful.
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GeorgeandHarold66 · 24/04/2021 17:38

I think that she's probably "broken up with him" but being 16 hasn't quite found the nerve to tell him so keeps making excuses.

Or she likes the idea of having a boyfriend, maybe to fit in with her friends? But isn't actually comfortable spending time with him.

Either way this is going nowhere, you need to try to gently nudge your ds towards stepping back and getting to know other girls.

Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:39

@EvenMoreFuriousVexation

Please stop enabling him to keep humiliating himself.

Is his dad on the scene? He seems to have a very unhealthy idea of how to set boundaries in a relationship and that you can and should walk away from someone who is treating you without respect.

I don't know what communication is usually like between you and DS but I told mine at a similar age "That girl is mugging you off and probably shagging someone else" (I was right) - plain honest speaking was best for us.

Dad is on the scene. In fact dad an I have been together since we were 15. Dad is a sweetheart as is DS. I’ve tried not to say bad things about the gf as I thought it might push him more towards her...but whatever I try doesn’t work. Perhaps I do need to be blunt.
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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:40

@rainbowandglitter

Why is he putting up with this?
No idea Hmm

I would never have tolerated such awful behaviour.

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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:41

@Cattingaboot

Sorry op, but DS is being mugged off.

Tell him to call it off with her, she's clearly not interested.

My thoughts exactly. I just don’t know how to make him realise this. I don’t want to hurt him, but I can’t watch him suffer and his self esteem be bashed repeatedly.
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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:42

@Zancah

Step back and leave them to it. She does sound flakey and self absorbed, but a lot of teenagers are. Take him on holiday though, I'd not be taking no for an answer the if she's only going to mess him about and he's only staying here for her.
I desperately want him to come on holiday, but his voice raises at least three octaves when I mention it. My mother says that perhaps he needs to learn the hard way. I just feel awful about it.
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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:45

@GeorgeandHarold66

I think that she's probably "broken up with him" but being 16 hasn't quite found the nerve to tell him so keeps making excuses.

Or she likes the idea of having a boyfriend, maybe to fit in with her friends? But isn't actually comfortable spending time with him.

Either way this is going nowhere, you need to try to gently nudge your ds towards stepping back and getting to know other girls.

I think she likes to say she has a boyfriend. But she’s just 16 and wants to do what she wants to do. She’ll see DS if it fits with her own plans. I don’t blame her, but the effect on DS is just awful and I can’t watch it anymore. I need to know how to tell him this is messed up and ‘move on boy’.
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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/04/2021 17:48

He does have to learn the hard way unfortunately. Poor boy.

I'd be really annoyed about the holiday though.

Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 17:54

@MrsTerryPratchett

He does have to learn the hard way unfortunately. Poor boy.

I'd be really annoyed about the holiday though.

Oh dear. My heart breaks for him, especially when I see him making such a stupid mistake.
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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/04/2021 18:01

Now is the time to make stupid mistakes! You met yours at 15 but the vast majority of people don't. They have lots of ill-considered relationships and learn some lessons. Not nice to go through but important.

2bazookas · 24/04/2021 18:05

He's devastated depressed and howling. Even with you there propping him up like a crutch.

How is he going to cope;alone. aged 16, when the rest of the family is far away on holiday and she treats him like shit again?

Tell him, he's too immature to be left alone'so he's coming on the holiday and leaving her behind.

Stop enabling her abuse by acting as her taxi service

EssentialHummus · 24/04/2021 18:08

Oh dear, poor boy. I’d be asking him what he’d think if one of his friends was routinely getting messages like this from a girl they were supposedly with. And yeah, insist on the holiday.

PaterPower · 24/04/2021 18:10

What’s going to happen when you’re on holiday anyway? If he’s unable to get to hers without a lift from you, how does he think they’ll meet up?

Have they ever actually gone on dates (pre-lockdown / pandemic) or are they really just in a relationship in name only?

billy1966 · 24/04/2021 18:12

OP,

How stressful to watch that.

She's making the most ferocious fool out of him, to put it mildly and he's hopping up and down begging for more.

The last thing that is going to appeal to a 16 year old girl or older is a boy making a total tit of himself and allowing her to treat him like shit.

This is very harsh but sadly it's true.

He's behaving like he has absolutely zero self respect and therefore she is reflecting that right back at him.

There are some great poster's on here who will know how to deal with this better than I.

But he is going to have his heart squashed repeatedly if he doesn't get a handle on his neediness.

I think you need to get your husband to have a man to man with him.

He needs protecting from himself if he is going to chase girls like this and accept such treatment.

Boys can have such tender hearts and feelings.
You really have my sympathy.
Flowers

Aquamarine1029 · 24/04/2021 18:13

You do need to be blunt. She's a twat and making a total mug out of him. I would refuse to do anything that enables this "relationship" and I would inform him of this.

Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 18:18

@2bazookas

He's devastated depressed and howling. Even with you there propping him up like a crutch.

How is he going to cope;alone. aged 16, when the rest of the family is far away on holiday and she treats him like shit again?

Tell him, he's too immature to be left alone'so he's coming on the holiday and leaving her behind.

Stop enabling her abuse by acting as her taxi service

I’ve got no response except ‘true’.
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Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 18:19

@PaterPower

What’s going to happen when you’re on holiday anyway? If he’s unable to get to hers without a lift from you, how does he think they’ll meet up?

Have they ever actually gone on dates (pre-lockdown / pandemic) or are they really just in a relationship in name only?

He asked his grandparents if he could stay with them. He was going to get lifts around my dad’s working hours apparently. Hmm
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CrotchetyQuaver · 24/04/2021 18:19

Would he listen if his dad had a "man to man" chat with him about relationships? Poor boy - this so called girlfriend is treating him very badly.

Worriedmumble · 24/04/2021 18:20

@PaterPower

What’s going to happen when you’re on holiday anyway? If he’s unable to get to hers without a lift from you, how does he think they’ll meet up?

Have they ever actually gone on dates (pre-lockdown / pandemic) or are they really just in a relationship in name only?

Yes, they met on Snapchat via a mutual friend. She first came to visit us last summer and they saw each o her weekly until we locked down again.
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