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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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DoverSoul · 18/03/2021 15:10

If his intent isn't to be abusive but my intent is to leave despite knowing that and knowing how much it will hurt him, does that make me a horrible person?

No, it makes you believing his gaslighting. I wondered exactly the same thing with my ex, did he even realise he was doing it? But he did, they all do, they are doing it on purpose to make you feel like you can't live without them.

He might pretend to be hurt and flabbergasted that you think he's abusive (please don't tell him you know, you have to keep yourself safe) but he'll just be annoyed. And he'll be annoyed at having to find your replacement but he'll manage just fine. You need to stop worrying about him and start putting yourself first Flowers

I used to dream about what it would be like living on my own - it's so much better than I ever could have imagined. You have so much going for you, please PLEASE do something for yourself and get some RL help. Women's Aid - just have a chat, you don't have to commit to anything.

PerseverancePays · 18/03/2021 15:10

The karma thing is a story you tell yourself to make some sense in the strange circumstances you find yourself in. Change the story you are telling yourself: you deserve good karma and you are going to find it.
I changed my story when I watched a documentary showing how children who had been abused were being taught how to say no. Some of the children were very small. It made me think if they can learn to say no then so can I . That night I said no to my husband and slept on the sofa. Within four weeks I had moved out. Change the story you are telling yourself. You can do it one step at a time.

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/03/2021 15:11

@namechangeforadvicepls

I feel so embarassed to admit it all that but it is a big part of my thinking.
So where is the amazing karma you deserve now? You've ruined your life to not make him unhappy and you are miserable. Where's the wonderful life you deserve for being so selfless?

Having boundaries and getting your needs met isn't bad karma. I bet the Dalai Lama would agree. He would tell you to make plans and leave!

Roadtohades · 18/03/2021 15:13

The reason you feel like your life is a prison, is because that's exactly what it is. You are imprisoned and you need to plan to break out of your prison and free yourself from your jailer. It's really hard, but the rewards will be enormous. Mumsnet is with you all the way. Take courage! Be brave! Flowers

KatharinaRosalie · 18/03/2021 15:17

How did you come to the decision to leave, and what was it like once you had? Do you feel happier now?

I didn't. He got bored and dumped me. I was absolutely devastated as I thought he was the love of my life - it was I who was 'defective' and kept doing things wrong. Frankly I'm not sure if I ever would have been able to leave and what it would have taken to open my eyes. All my friends hated him and hinted that I was different and not in a good way, but he made sure I saw less and less of them..

And then I happened to read one of those 'Are you dating a loser' articles. I think might have been this one: counsellingresource.com/therapy/self-help/loser/
Was reading and going that..but wait a minute, he did that..and that...and that too. Note - not ALL of it. They don't have to tick every box. But enough. barely a couple of months and I had no confidence and self esteem left. It still scares me to think what would have happened, if we had stayed together - In fact, his next girlfriend after me killed herself just weeks after their wedding..

Am I happy? Yes. I have a lovely, lovely DH and DC, great career, many friends. You can have it too.

KatharinaRosalie · 18/03/2021 15:23

If his intent isn't to be abusive but my intent is to leave despite knowing that and knowing how much it will hurt him, does that make me a horrible person?

Of course not. You do not have to stay in any relationship. You can leave the most lovely man on the planet who treats you like a princess, if you do not want to be in this relationship any longer. Those are the rules.

SheenMcQueen · 18/03/2021 15:23

OP much of what you write is familiar, but i cannot stress these three things strongly enough:

  1. It is one of the worst kinds of abuse. He doesn't have to physically harm you because he has hollowed you out. There is nothing to harm - you are just a shell of a person functioning at a very basic level, facilitating his needs. No matter what he tells you, the essence of 'you' as a person, has no value to him. You are simply there to service his emotional need to feel better about his shit self.
  1. You are young. You are so so young. I WISH with every bone in my body that i'd left at 36. You have everything ahead of you.
  1. The best bit - YOU HAVE NO KIDS. This is literally the biggest blessing you could hope for. No kids. No ties. No wranging, negotiating, dreading making arrangements, drawn out and spiteful legal battles. You get to walk away and make a completely fresh start. You get to literally never see him again.

Imagine that? Imagine being able to breath again.

As for karma - you deserve some good karma, and it will come your way. He will be fine. Men like him always are. He bombard you with sad face for a while, then outrage face and then there will be lots of 'Your loss' type rubbish and before you know it, he will replace you with a new person to wear down.

RUN, my lovely, Run.

Bythemillpond · 18/03/2021 15:26

If I break his heart and ruin his life and make things hard in his business, I'm scared that I will get a load of terrible karma. The Universe will find a way to punish me. I know mumsnet isn't very woo, but I can be sometimes and I do believe that what goes around comes around

What about the karma he is invoking by being abusive to you.

You are not breaking his heart because he loves you. You would be breaking his heart because he can no longer control you and all his moves are no longer working.

The karma will be that you will get a new life (I think when you finally ask for a divorce he will accuse you of having an affair.)
I am sure he won’t be on his own for long. There will be a queue of women who want to rescue him from his exw who he will n doubt describe you in an unflattering light.

My friend has just found out that her abusive exh has told someone she does business with that she is mentally unstable and not to be trusted. They have only been divorced for 5 minutes and he is telling everyone who wants to hear what a mad wife she was.

Friend is now telling her side. She is physically disabled because of his abuse.

No matter how hard he says he is working at the same time he is making you do the same hours because he won’t let you go and do anything else

namechangeforadvicepls · 18/03/2021 15:36

Thank you for all your replies, I'm reading them all and taking it all in. I just had a look at jobs and I saw one straight away that I think I would love, doing admin in a primary school. I think I'm going to apply for it.

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Pashazade · 18/03/2021 15:48

That sounds like a perfect first step, go for it. You have loads of experience if you are self taught with all the finance and admin for your husbands business. You can do this.

DesertSky · 18/03/2021 15:50

Good luck OP. Start by taking steps to regain your life. Don’t be afraid to leave him if he doesn’t take a long hard look at himself and change his ways dramatically. You deserve better.

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/03/2021 15:51

And BTW even people actually in prison get to read books.

billybagpuss · 18/03/2021 15:51

@namechangeforadvicepls

Thank you for all your replies, I'm reading them all and taking it all in. I just had a look at jobs and I saw one straight away that I think I would love, doing admin in a primary school. I think I'm going to apply for it.
Yes yes yes, let us know if you need any help, happy for you to pm if you prefer.
crumble82 · 18/03/2021 15:56

Great that you’re looking at going for a new job...good luck.

On the Karma front I would suggest that any bad karma that comes his way is deserved as a result of how he has treated you.

BonnieDundee · 18/03/2021 16:06

Wishing you whatever it is you need to leave. If you could read your posts from a stranger's perspective you would see how wrong it all is. He is a bad man.

ChangeNameagain2 · 18/03/2021 16:31

If I break his heart

You can not break his heart, because he doesn't love you. He wouldn't do this if he did. He knows what he is doing. His intention is to be abusive to keep you where he wants you. Do not tell him about this thread, the job, any plans. Tell him nothing

whateverhappenstomorrow · 18/03/2021 16:48

I just had a look at jobs and I saw one straight away that I think I would love, doing admin in a primary school. I think I'm going to apply for it

Great! If you think experience of interviews would help you could try seeing if there are schemes where you live which will give you practice experience before the interview.

MintyCedric · 18/03/2021 17:00

He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through.

You can be sympathetic to that but that doesn't excuse what he's doing or mean you should sacrifice your life and happiness for him.

He refuses to get counselling.

Why? Because what he is doing is 'working' for him. All the while he refuses to take responsibility for his issues, he can make you feel like you are responsible and in doing so he controls you.

I'm sure previous posters will have already mentioned the book Why Does He Do That? By Lundy Bancroft and the Freedom Programme which you can do online.

Next step is Women's Aid, getting some advice about the practicalities, then solicitor for the legal side.

Baby steps...one at a time...you can do this and you deserve to do this.

Leaving my controlling ex was the hardest thing I have ever done (and he was less controlling than yours). It took me 6 years to find the courage to go through with it by which time I was 41.

The only regret I have now at 45 is that I didn't do it sooner.

GreenBalaclava · 18/03/2021 17:01

Yes! Apply for the job OP. If you don't get this one, look for another. That would be a brilliant first step to reclaiming something for yourself.

namechangeforadvicepls · 18/03/2021 17:08

He just rang me and I looked at my phone while we were speaking and he's rung me 14 times today. I told him I was going to go and he said "how come?!" like he was shocked I wouldn't want to talk to him.It really is suffocating.

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Outbutnotoutout · 18/03/2021 17:15

Please please please leave

He has you totally under control and will do for ever

You are 36 so young you could have another 40/50 yrs with this man

You could have an amazing life with someone who treats you well, you could have children and friends and spend time with your family.

This is being locked in a gilded cage, under his watchful eye.

Tankflybosswalkjam · 18/03/2021 17:23

How can HE live like this? It’s incredibly odd!

You talk about breaking his heart - no way! You’re freeing him up to live his own life. It’s a kindness on your behalf.

Please please don’t continue like this.

Bionicname · 18/03/2021 17:27

You are not his wife. You are his servant.

Killergigglebunnies · 18/03/2021 17:28

Get that school admin job. I work in school admin and get all the holidays with dds.
It does sound suffocating. It’s all about him and what he wants. Anything to make his life easier.

DoverSoul · 18/03/2021 17:36

@namechangeforadvicepls

Thank you for all your replies, I'm reading them all and taking it all in. I just had a look at jobs and I saw one straight away that I think I would love, doing admin in a primary school. I think I'm going to apply for it.
Very best of luck with that Smile