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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 23:14

@randommess How have you gone from 7/8 months ago leaving him to move into your other property and doing teacher training to now having weight loss surgery?

I'm not sure if even I understand it. I started doing some counselling and I was waiting for some money to come in, it was in DHs name but clearing a debt we'd decided on jointly but was in my name. I couldn't leave without that money, but it was late coming in. The counsellor also advised me to tell him about everything, and it got to the date I was supposed to start and I did the first couple of days but then he was ringing me all the time while I was trying to be on the zoom classes, and then he needed me to do a delivery when I was supposed to physically go into the University for the day and I just... crumbled. I told him, he said I could stop working for him if I wanted, that he'd never said I couldn't (though he definitely has, multiple times) that I could do the teacher training if I wanted but he didn't think I should because I have tried and failed things in the past. So I left the course and I stopped going to the counsellor and thought that I should just accept my life as it was.

DH has mentioned weight loss surgery a few times to me, but I didn't want to do it, but then I read a thread on here where people seem really happy with their experiences, I found a group on FB full of people getting pregnant after their surgeries, I felt like it gave me a glimmer of hope for something positive in my future but I've regretted it since I booked it, I'm terrified of having it done but statistically the chances of me losing the weight on my own at this point are so low, I just don't know what to do.

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RandomMess · 20/03/2021 23:20

😢

He is so manipulative.

SpringCrocus · 20/03/2021 23:23

Oh OP
You nearly escaped off to Uni six months ago to a new life, new flat and he reeled you back in, gaslighting you and promising change.

And here you are now, even more controlled, imprisoned, trapped.

He promised things would be better, you could adopt, you could have days off, you could have a cleaner, you could have time to do a course of your choice

Instead, he's ramped up the coercion, you can't walk the dog, have a shit, smile, read a book, watch a show, leave the room, sleep or wake when you like , eat food you enjoy, meet your friends or family

And he's now coerced you into radical life altering surgery? So you meet HIS idea of female size? Angry

I mean, wtf?

Please, get away from him.

NOW

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 23:25

Also I just want to say I'm sorry I tried to excuse his behaviour by his childhood, after reading the replies to that and other people's experiences, you're right, it doesn't excuse it at all because plenty of other people have childhoods that are as bad or worse and don't behave in the same way.

@namechange1991 - he's actually got better in some ways but when I think about it, I don't actually know if he's got better or if I've just got more compliant. I never, ever push his buttons. We used to have some really awful arguments. I struggle to remember a lot of it, my brain is really good at forgetting unpleasant memories

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SpringCrocus · 20/03/2021 23:27

C- PTSD. Try reading up about how your brain deletes traumatic memories Flowers

Alreadyinmypyjamas · 20/03/2021 23:30

I knew you were the same poster as before. I've often thought about you and hoped you'd left.

Nothing is going to change. No matter how many years you wait or threads you start, you won't feel better into you leave him.

He's abusive. And he's probably getting worse as time goes on.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 23:37

@springcrocus to be fair, it's not about my size. He's never made me feel bad about my size, I can have an honest discussion with him about it, he's never said anything that's upset me in that way.

The reason I am considering it is because my BMI puts me over the cutoff to have IVF, we were TTC for years and I never had so much as a positive ovulation test, never mind a pregnancy one.

I've tried losing weight on my own but I lose some and get nearly there and then I put it all back on plus some more.

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JaniceBattersby · 20/03/2021 23:45

Oh OP your thread is harrowing. I spend a lot of my working life in courtrooms and I have seen several men prosecuted for less than this.

You’ve spent 20 years of your life with him but you’ve probably got 50 more left. Go out and live them.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 23:53

@katy1213 that all sounds so lovely.

I used to love going to the cinema, but I've barely been in the past ten years because he doesn't like it. That's one of the things I imagine I would do in my new life, just go to the cinema, even on my own. I couldn't do it now because of the phonecalls.

In fact, I did a college course a couple of years ago and one day I told him I was going but I told college I was ill, and I had a genuine day off because he didn't really ring me when I was at college because he knew I couldn't answer, or do anything to help him even if I did.

It was bliss, it was so peaceful and I thought maybe I could go to the cinema. I drove to a big cineworld one and I didn't end up going in but I remember that day so fondly.

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Keepyourdistance000 · 20/03/2021 23:55

OP @namechangeforadvicepls just wanted to say my situation mirrors yours almost 100% and I will be following this thread to hopefully get some advice. May even start my own thread. Flowers and best of luck to you.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 23:57

@alreadyinmypyjamas thank you. I didn't really want to bring all the other thread back up as I felt so bad about it but I just felt like I needed to speak to people. It never occured to me that people might remember it.

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namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 00:02

@keepyourdistance000 I'm sorry to hear you're going through similar, feel free to PM me if you want to talk about it. Or start your own thread, it's hard sometimes to hear some things but more than that it is so, so helpful. Flowers for you too.

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Saltyslug · 21/03/2021 00:02

What will you decide and do op

SpringCrocus · 21/03/2021 00:04

Oh @namechangeforadvicepls

Please, read back this thread and your other threads under your different user names.

Take on board all the great advice you've been given.
Please.

katy1213 · 21/03/2021 00:10

You know what would be a really good start? If you dropped that damn phone down the nearest drain. It would remove a huge amount of control and give you some head space.

namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 00:10

@janicebattersby I spend a lot of my working life in courtrooms and I have seen several men prosecuted for less than this

I find it so hard to read that, and some other posters have said that this is the saddest thread they've read etc.

I think I still don't quite believe that I'm not just making a massive fuss over nothing, that it's not me that's the problem and I'm just depressed and ungrateful, or imagining things are worse than they actually are.

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SpringCrocus · 21/03/2021 00:13

Do you not recall the posts on your previous threads? The outpouring of support for you?

Iflyaway · 21/03/2021 00:13

OMG OP, this must be one of the scariest, saddest threads I've read on MN.

I have an old school friend from the age of 12. She was in love with a guy a year above us. They've been married for ever but she lives her own life too. (works in admin at a primary school).

Please go back into counselling and continue trying to access Women's Aid, you really do have a compelling reason to be helped by them.

I was in an abusive relationship. Got out and life is 100x better living on my own, making my own decisions about my own life. There have been other relationships of course but I will never live with a man again. (My neighbour and his wife have been married 30 years, they both have their own place near to each other).

I've gone from strength to strength. That's my wish for you too.

superwoman232 · 21/03/2021 00:19

You are in a coercive controlling relationship. All the hallmarks are present. Leave

MMMarmite · 21/03/2021 00:33

I'm sorry OP. This thread is so painful to read.

It's natural to not be able to remember things properly or think straight when you are being abused. It is a way your brain tries to protect you from pain.

He sounds incredibly manipulative. I think you need to secretly build up some support outside the relationship, make some basic plans, and then leave. Don't tell him your plans, or he will manipulate you out of them, like what happened before.

Apileofballyhoo · 21/03/2021 00:33

Oh, OP. This is so sad and I'm so sorry for you. I hope you get out. I had a boyfriend a bit like that, it reminds me of him. He wanted everything to suit him and it annoyed him if I didn't fall in with his plans, his likes, his hobbies and it annoyed him if I had likes of my own, including friends, nights out, going away with family or friends, even working during the summer hols because it decreased my availability for when it suited him. Not that he actually wanted to talk to me or listen to what I had to say. And he would change plans last minute dropping me, if he felt like it, but if I did that there would be a massive row. He didn't like my friends either.

You're only 36. You could meet somebody before you're 40 and have a child. But that won't happen if you stay where you are. Flowers

superwoman232 · 21/03/2021 00:40

@namechangeforadvicepls this is one of the most horrifying things I've ever read honestly. I have no words. Please leave this man. Please. You are a slave and you are not "making a fuss". Your husband is a monster.

MMMarmite · 21/03/2021 00:53

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]**@janicebattersby I spend a lot of my working life in courtrooms and I have seen several men prosecuted for less than this

I find it so hard to read that, and some other posters have said that this is the saddest thread they've read etc.

I think I still don't quite believe that I'm not just making a massive fuss over nothing, that it's not me that's the problem and I'm just depressed and ungrateful, or imagining things are worse than they actually are.[/quote]
This is minimisation. It's another common way your brain protects you.

If you can't escape (or feel like you can't escape) a situation, and the situation is so horrifying that is impossible to bear, then your brain protects you from psychological collapse by telling you it's not so bad. (Abusers' lies often reinforce this message too).

It's a wonderful protective strategy to help people get through traumatic events. But it's backfiring here, because its stopping you seeing the truth and acting on it.

Tankflybosswalkjam · 21/03/2021 01:00

i could do the teacher training if I wanted but he didn't think I should because I have tried and failed things in the past. So I left the course and I stopped going to the counsellor

This makes me want to fucking SCREAM!!!

Tankflybosswalkjam · 21/03/2021 01:03

What sort of ghastly evil manipulative fucking hideous monster would treat his WIFE like that??? To actively discourage you from doing anything? To saying that you’re going to fail so you may as well quit before that happens? Oh my God!

And why why why are you going along with this destruction?