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I'm in shock - after almost 5 years together boyfriend has told me he has never been in love with me

79 replies

Teatimes2 · 12/02/2021 07:33

I posted recently about my relationship but there has been developments since as I told him recently I have been feeling like just someone he's fond of and good fun to hang out with. He basically agreed, said he's not in love with me, never has been but thinks a lot of me. He'd been hoping things would change for him but they haven't and that's why he let it drag on so long. I'm heartbroken and shocked. He's never told me he loves me before but he told me he's not good at expressing his emotions and I assumed that although he didn't say it, he must love me after all this time. We've never lived together, we're not young, no children. We're each other's longest relationship. He's had many previous, I haven't.

This only happened yesterday. Still trying to process it. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks

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FortunesFave · 12/02/2021 07:36

Oh that's terrible! You're better off without him though OP...you don't want to waste any time with someone who doesn't love you.

Mumdiva99 · 12/02/2021 07:41

You didn't think things were going great or that you were his top priority. This is probably the end for now. You sound really sensible and caring. You are independent and self reliant. It doesn't feel great now. But in the future you will meet someone better, someone who puts you first and loves you fully.

Can you arrange a zoom call with a friend tonight? Or a walk maybe? Or put one of your favourite movies on and treat yourself to a takeaway?

NotaCoolMum · 12/02/2021 07:42

So sorry op 💐💐 next time- don’t stay with someone who “has trouble” expressing their feelings- they never end well xx

DfEisashambles · 12/02/2021 07:46

He’s wasted your precious time.

Please don’t waste another second on this wimp.

JackieWeaverFever · 12/02/2021 08:17

What a shock.
In the fullness of time you won't be sorry this happened but right now you have every right to feel devastated/angry etc.
It may be worth looking at boundaries and expectations of a relationship at some point, as after 2 years max (assuming no blended families) I would expect I love yous and to be cohabiting with a partner

Dontbeme · 12/02/2021 08:57

I remember your other threads OP, this is the guy that wouldn't meet up with you at your house because it was raining and you only met at weekends right, then the following weekend he wanted a "sleepover" when it suited him. He wouldn't stay at your house because it was smaller and he was bored by it.

Be honest looking back at the past few years of his behaviour are you truly shocked, you have written yourself that he always put you last, you have felt like an option for when he had nothing else to do. This is a gift, he has spoken out loud what you know to be true so listen to him and find someone who will value you and put you first for a change.

Amotherlife · 12/02/2021 09:39

I'm really sorry but you had your doubts and now they're confirmed. In my 20s I sometimes stayed with a guy for a while knowing it would never pan out long term and hoping it might, so I can see where he might be coming from. It can also happen that you fall in love but then fall out of it later on.

However 5 years seems too long to stay in these circumstances. You say he has had lots of previous relationships- sounds like he finds commitment difficult or has unrealistic expectations. Maybe he did think he loved you early on, but has lost those feelings and now forgotten them.

I think I'd be wary of someone who had had many previous relationships over the age of about 30. When you're young you often experiment, but someone more mature should have more idea of what they're looking for.

I hope you can move on and eventually find someone else where you are right for each other.

Crosstrainer · 12/02/2021 09:43

I read your last thread too. You knew this, OP. Yes, it’s horrible/deflating to have it confirmed like that, but you knew. Men are pretty simple creatures in my experience; I’d they’re into you, you know about it and they don’t hang about. You can do much better. Dust yourself down and move on from this one. Think of it as a lucky escape; if you hadn’t called him out, you could’ve wasted so much more time on him.....

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 12/02/2021 09:49

I'm sorry OP, that must have been horrible to hear, even though you knew deep down it was the case.

Do you now feel free to let him go, stop waiting for him to put you first, and you put your own self first now?

Babdoc · 12/02/2021 09:53

Don’t waste any more time, OP. You thought you were in a relationship, he apparently just thought it was a convenient “friends with benefits” set up.
He should never have let it drag on so long, getting your hopes up and wasting your potentially fertile years on a man who had no intention of committing to you.
Find your self respect and anger, dump the creep, and move on.

Tonic54 · 12/02/2021 09:55

I had this too op. I was so in love with him it took me ages to accept he would never feel that way about me. I kept thinking if I was prettier, nicer etc it would happen. End of the day it never did and it almost cost me the chance of having kids. It's not you it's him. He has been a massive coward for stringing you along. I'd definitely end it and maybe get some therapy to help you see you deserve more-it helped me.

MsMarch · 12/02/2021 10:11

I've read a few of your posts. This relationship has been doomed for a while. I think that you've been pushing back a little and so now he really isn't interested because before you were there, on tap, whenever he wanted you to be and now you've started to assert a little independence and it's just not worth it for him.

Consider this a lucky break and try to move on. He's not interested in a long term relationship with you and there's no point wasting your time any further.

YoniAndGuy · 12/02/2021 10:28

Lucky break! He sounds - pretty crap all round, really. And a bit of a user.

How old are you and do you want a family? That's the important thing.

Make the move. You'll soon see how little you've actually lost from your life.

bombastical · 12/02/2021 12:59

I know it hurts but your new life starts now. He’s been cruel to be kind. At least you now know. You can’t change this and neither should you try. There are no more conversations or efforts to be tried. Done. If it was me I’d message “thanks for letting me know your feelings for sure. It hurts but I’d rather know. Wish you all the best for the future” then that is it. No more messages. No more dragging on. He doesn’t get the benefit of hanging around fun you. Total silence. Do not respond to messages. He doesn’t get to still date you. You are not chopped liver, you are prime steak. It’s now time to stick on the Bridget Jones movies and cry a bucket and grieve. Get it out. Then once this lockdown is over (Easter) you can emerge a new woman and live a better life. He’s wasted five years of your youth. He gets not one more day.

Teatimes2 · 12/02/2021 13:58

Thanks all. Your wise words are helping a lot. There's no going back now.

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bombastical · 12/02/2021 23:50

How did he leave it? Did he assume you would keep dating?

SmeleanorSmellstrop · 13/02/2021 05:42

I remember your other threads and this guy has been stringing you along for a long time. Posters tried to tell you you deserved better and that your relationship wasn't healthy or normal but you didn't want to hear it. I am almost happy for you that, whilst this must have been horrible for you, you can now start to move on and find a relationship with someone who makes the effort with you. This guy seems to have been making you feel insecure and shit for years.

SmeleanorSmellstrop · 13/02/2021 05:45

Sorry OP, I didn't mean that in a horrible way - the "you didn't want to hear it" bit sounded harsh when I re-read. I just meant that sometimes it's hard to see/accept something when you really don't want to as feelings are involved. We have all been there!

Teatimes2 · 14/02/2021 05:39

@bombastical We left it that I said I presume that's it then. He said he didn't know. I said of course it is, there's no going back when someone tells you they've never loved you. He asked could he continue to ring me, maybe meet for a coffee. I said no. I'm still in disbelief and heartbroken really.

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thecatfromjapan · 14/02/2021 06:36

'Perhaps we could carry on as we are, with me treating you as an option, and you - now you've been told I see you as some kind of appliance; like, say, a washing-machine - continuing to make yourself available when I need you, getting very, very little in return.'

So, so cheeky. Or maybe lacking in full comprehension of the fact that other people - particularly you - are real, full human beings - with wants and needs at least as powerful and important as his.

I think you've learned that you did a lot of work in this relationship. Not least, you projected onto him lots of your own inner, emotional life. For example, a warmth, and a willingness to love another person, that was present in abundance in you - but not him.
You also didn't pay enough attention to what you needed and wanted. You didn't acknowledge what your wants and needs were/are, and you didn't insist to yourself that those wants and needs be met.
Not initially, anyway. After five years of basically starving yourself, you did.
Which is good - at least you did it in the end.
Well done.

The trick now is to learn to identify, acknowledge and insist on those needs far sooner. Not five years next time!
You've learnt a bit about yourself - and that's a good thing.
You've learned that you are capable of warmth and a real generosity towards the people you form intimate relationships with. Which is great. What a wonderful trait to have.

You've also learnt that you are inclined to be a little blind to your own needs, a little too dismissive of them. That you want intimate relationships that are more centred on you, where you do less of the work, where a partner is around when you need them.
That's good, too.
You must accept that this is what you want - don't let some inner voice dismiss that as you being 'needy' or 'selfish'. It's what you want - and you now know that you will end any relationship that doesn't give you that. So tell that inner voice to keep quiet, because it's wasting your time.

Onwards to that next relationship.

And remember, that quality of generosity is very precious. Don't waste it on people who interpret it as you being a pushover, or someone who is willing to exploit that generosity to put themselves first.

Look for someone who also has that same generosity - and who demonstrates it, with actions - someone who really understands the value of that generosity.

That will be the foundations of a really great relationship.

It may all be a bit grim at the moment but this is part of life. It's full of these learning experiences. The best - absolute best - we can do is learn from them, and take them as an opportunity to change and grow.

You clearly have the capacity to do that in spades - which is great.

So, onwards and upwards!

TorchesTorches · 14/02/2021 06:42

What a lovely post thecatfromjapan. I agree. It's so easy to put yourself second. And very easy to find someone who is very happy with you being second while they are first.

Find someone who will ALSO put you first.

Windmillwhirl · 14/02/2021 07:02

I had a boyfriend of 4.5 years tell me he had not been feeling it for the last two years. I was horrified and told him he had wasted two years of my life. I think he liked the cosy set up, we lived together and he paid reduced rent as it was my home.

I was over him very quickly.

Met someone 18 months later that makes me feel very loved and it is a far happier and healthier relationship.

Teatimes2 · 14/02/2021 07:19

thecatfromjapan Thank you for such a lovely post, I much appreciate the detail you've gone to.

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Avidreader12 · 14/02/2021 09:43

It’s better to find out now than when you’ve moved in bought a house had a child because that’s what people tend to do when together a long time. Relationships change yes it’s a shock when you find out but take time to readjust and find time for yourself, don’t rush into a new relationship just to get over the last one.

bombastical · 14/02/2021 13:21

What an awful situation. Be strong. Know your boundaries. He doesn’t get to dip in and out of your life. Don’t let him come back after valentine’s day and try to pick up again

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