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I tried to leave OH last night and ended up back home!

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tiredandfrumpy · 28/01/2021 08:18

Last night felt like the final straw for me however I ended up back home. It all started by me asking for the phone charger so I can get a bit off charge so I can set my alarm so I can't get up in the morning.

He wanted the charger back after 5 mins so wouldn't of been enough charge! This spiralled buy him pushing me of the bed into the wardrobe. Screaming in my face.

I packed mine and the kids things up managed to finally get past him and get them into the car this is when he shows me that I'm no longer on the car insurance he took me of weeks ago and forgot to add me back. Ive been driving round for weeks with no insurance. I ended up driving round the corner and just sat in Asda car park baring in mind this was 3 in the morning.

I came home at half 5 now I'm WFH on 2 hours sleep I'm so angry but I managed to get myself a charger so he no longer has that control over me now.

I just want out!! I'm so desperate my poor poor kids having to witness this shit all the time. It's my payday today so he goes to be hanging round me like a fly on shit.

I need to make a plan and leave this weekend as I'm off work but I have no where to go.

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RandomMess · 28/01/2021 12:06

@HuntingCuns exactly and why the OP needs to use WA and go to a refuge to protect herself and ensure that she maintains a minimum of 50:50.

She needs to document his awful behaviour and make him apply to court for contact (mediation not suitable when abuse involved).

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SabrinaMorningstar · 28/01/2021 12:08

You don't say how long you've lived in the house or whether it's LA, HA or private rented. If it's LA or HA, then contact them and Shelter for advice. They might be able to help rehouse you or (depending on how long you have lived there and if you can prove residence) they might be able to put the tenancy into your name.

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HuntingCuns · 28/01/2021 12:11

Absolutely agree, Random. I wasn't taking issue with any of that - just warning that this horrible man does have some power, rightly or wrongly, and the OP doesn't have all the cards in her hand. He could spin it in such a way that she looks like the crap one for moving out and taking the children away from their SAHP, familiarity, their home, etc, etc, etc. She needs to make sure all his shitty behaviour is well documented by external agencies in case he tries to pull this trick. If the OP can be tricked out of owning a car, and can fail to realise that she is not insured to drive the car she thought was hers but is actually his, this suggests he has form for devious behaviour on top of being abusive.

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RandomMess · 28/01/2021 12:13

@HuntingCuns exactly why she needs to look at coercive control and if there is evidence of it (highly likely I suspect) go to the police and report it.

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CorianderBlues · 28/01/2021 12:15

How is he with the children? Is it imperative that they leave with you or will they be OK with him for a few days whilst you sort things out? Esp if having a job that involves WFH?

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Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople · 28/01/2021 12:22

The refuge will be able to give advice about the finances including how much rent will be and whether it’s better to give up your job. In the meantime, you can either ask your employer if they will give you a leave of absence due to domestic abuse or ask your GP to sign you off sick for 4 weeks whilst you leave.

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FortunesFave · 28/01/2021 12:34

@CorianderBlues

How is he with the children? Is it imperative that they leave with you or will they be OK with him for a few days whilst you sort things out? Esp if having a job that involves WFH?

Who in their right mind would leave their children with a dick like this? No matter how nice he is to them, he's an arse to the OP and she should NOT leave them there. Next thing, she won't be able to get contact if she leaves them with him.

No, she needs to take them to ensure they stay safe and with the only stable person in the family!
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Bubble77bee · 28/01/2021 12:46

I'm so sorry you're in this position OP, but well done on taking steps to leave him. I haven't had time to read the whole thread, so I'm sure you've had some good advice, but felt compelled to reply. Do you have a friend you could stay with for a few days? If one of my friends of acquaintances contacted me in these circumstances, I'd put them up, no questions. Your kids will be so much safer away from this man. Good luck to you. Keep posting- we are all rooting for you.

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Pinkyxx · 28/01/2021 12:48

Please call the national domestic violence helpline (you can chat online with them too). //www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk

They will help you plan and find accommodation in a refuge so you can leave safely with your children.

Make sure you take ALL your paperwork, and your passport, you & children's birth certificate. Also take any evidence of any of the things he's done (i.e. car). It is not beyond a man like this to destroy such things and you will need them. Open a separate bank account if not already and remove yourself from any joint financial accounts ( take what is yours first). This avoids you being liable for fees / overdraft / debt he may decide to accumulate. Easier to avoid than deal with the mess trust me! Report the assault and domestic violence to the police and make sure they know the children were in the house. This will trigger a notification to social services who will make a DV referral.

Finally, DO NOT leave without your children.

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billy1966 · 28/01/2021 13:10

You can do this OP.

Get proof you paid for your can.

It's more abuuse that he has taken it.

Report last nights assault PLEASE.

Get all your paperwork.

Tell your employer.

Flowers

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NotFabulousDarling · 28/01/2021 13:20

On a practical note, if your money goes into a joint account, change your bank details at your employer (let them know why, if you have to) so all your salary goes into your own account.
Also change your paperwork options such as at the bank, so they are all online instead of being sent to the house.

I hope you get some help from Women's Aid. Flowers They do have different pricing for if you're employed or not, however, unless the rules have changed in the past few months, you can't claim benefits if you've intentionally made yourself unemployed, so unless you were moved into a refuge too far from your work to commute, you might struggle to get benefits. Let WA know the car situation, some branches have a minibus, van or similar which they could help you out with. Otherwise, once you know where you're going, packing the bare minimum and moving by public transport/taxi is hard but doable.

If no joy with WA, get onto the council and declare homelessness. They have a statutory duty to house you and your children. There are other refuges in some areas, which aren't run by WA, the council can help you with these.

Don't be afraid to walk away without your belongings. You and the kids' safety is more important, and you can call the police and ask them to attend if you need to return to the property in the future to collect your stuff.

Good luck.

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Fluffy40 · 28/01/2021 13:28

Don’t let him track you by your phone once you’ve left.

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Dery · 28/01/2021 13:34

“I think you need proper legal advice. If he has been to all intents and purposes the SAHP (albeit a crap one), he could reasonably claim that the children need to live with him for the majority of the time. He might not bother, because it's a lot of effort to look after children and he could well decide he can't be arsed - but if he went down this route in order to penalise you, you would have to be able to show that he has constantly exposed them to violence and abuse.”

This. It’s not straight forward if he has been primary carer and that does need to be factored into your calculations. And I don’t think you’re going to be able to argue that they were exposed to abuse and violence because you wouldn’t have left him with them if that were the case. But working these things out can be done from a refuge - it doesn’t all need to be done now.

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WeAreShiningStars · 28/01/2021 13:59

Leave . Take the kids and leave. Don't pay any of his bills tomorrow; let him sort it out. Change the passwords on your accounts if there's any chance he knows them. Cancel any direct debits that cover his bills. And get out.

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Yohoheaveho · 28/01/2021 14:02

This is potentially a very big deal, in terms of child arrangement orders. He actually has the power to say that as he has been a SAHP, the DC stay with him. Even if he doesn't want that to happen, he could well use it as a weapon against the OP
Thank you for pointing this out 🙏
OP needs to be very careful and strategic

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Goatscheesewithhoney · 28/01/2021 14:13

The above is not true. He could go for 50% as SAHP , but if his bluff was called he may well not go through with that anyway.

The threat of taking the children is one of the tactics men like this use, and the OP will be frightened enough of that without people trying to advise on this thread and bringing that up - it is almost doing his job for him!

OP, take advice from women’s aid or a similar agency, who will be more than used to these type of threats if he does ever make them. With that support, and if you are not working, you will then get legal aid to support you and you can take advice from a solicitor who will advice specific to your situation and, again, will be more than used to dealing with this type of man and his entirely predictable patterns of behaviour. You won’t be alone, and you can do this, one step at a time.

If leaving work is what you want to do to cope and survive during this time, then do it. Getting out is most important now, and keeping your head above water emotionally. You can work again in future, again, taking steps one day at a time Flowers

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Jacketpotato84 · 28/01/2021 14:14

Children's services (social services) he is a risk to the children, (them seeing the abuse) and will not be allowed contact with them thus, will help accommodate children safely with their mother. Also police, and GP for the assault. There is help out there for you x

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Plumsforjam · 28/01/2021 14:15

Do you work for a large organisation? If so they might have a benevolent fund. Ours will help out with deposits, furniture in emergencies.

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Keratinsmooth · 28/01/2021 14:19

Did you put kids in the car last night too? Where were you planning to go?

Have you family that you and the kids can stay with?

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tiredandfrumpy · 28/01/2021 14:24

Just catching up as I've been working all day, refuge have one out of my county but it's shared accommodation me and the kids in one room. The other one is quite far away but is a contained flat.

I'm going to speak to the council first before I make any decisions and see if they have any temporary accommodation as I don't really want to be so far away as DS is at nursery and I don't want to have to remove him from there. As he has been to three different nurseries now and he is finally happy there.

Also my dog OH is abusive to him I need to look into fostering. As I would want him back when I'm settled unless temp accommodation allows pets.

He's already started with the money talk already asking me if I think it's free to live here and he needs it to pay the bills.

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Nomnomarrgh · 28/01/2021 14:31

He might like to have your money to pay his bills but you are under no obligation to do so. He’s using this as a tactic to stop you.

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Jacketpotato84 · 28/01/2021 14:33

@Yohoheaveho

This is potentially a very big deal, in terms of child arrangement orders. He actually has the power to say that as he has been a SAHP, the DC stay with him. Even if he doesn't want that to happen, he could well use it as a weapon against the OP
Thank you for pointing this out 🙏
OP needs to be very careful and strategic

He has no power if he is a serious risk to the children
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CaraDuneRedux · 28/01/2021 14:34

The car insurance trick (because it wasn't an accident, it was quite deliberate) is a form of financial abuse and coercive control.

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EvilPea · 28/01/2021 14:35

I think dogs trust run a scheme to foster. I’m sure womens aid also have a list of local people who might be able to help.

Good luck. I can tell you the otherwise is , wonderful, you can breathe, relax & laugh.

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