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Is this forgivable?

87 replies

shg23 · 23/12/2020 17:51

Hey everyone! Im hoping someone can help me with this. I've literally asked everyone I know but I feel that everyone is too emotionally involved to give me a good answer. Its a bit of a long one so bare with me.
My ex boyfriend and I met on the first day of university and were very on and off throughout the first year or so but officially got together last October. We had a great year, so many laughs and good times, went on holiday together, he spent christmas with my family etc. I was truly very happy with him. Around April this year, I brought up the fact that he hadn't told his family about me (his family is Muslim) after 1.5 years of knowing me. He was very defensive about this and never told them but I was so happy with him that I accepted it as something which would happen in the future.
In september, after spending an amazing summer together, I began my year abroad in Spain. Personally I wasn't worried about our relationship suffering as a result of this. BUT around a week into me being there he began to bring up things which had happened in the period when we weren't together (I slept with someone else, however we had not been together for 6 months and he took me back 4 months after). He would begin to say things like 'I don't know whether I can do it anymore' or 'its disgusting'. For the first few weeks I allowed it and accepted the blame, but I really was very upset that he was being like this so long after we'd been together.
I barely knew anyone in Spain and it was a really tough experience for me, especially because he was the one I usually went to for advice. After the first few weeks, it became a bit of a pattern. He would be ok with me all week with all the usual 'I love you's' etc but then on the weekend he would do it again. It began to get a bit more hurtful too. He called me a 'slag', he told me 'any girl could replace you', 'you tell me you love me too much', 'you cry too much', 'you carry yourself badly and give off a wrong impression' etc. The list could go on...
Around mid October he broke up with me all of a sudden and then wanted me back immediately. I didn't want to break up so I took him back. We were then fine for a week and he did it again. This time I told him I wanted space, which he wouldn't give me. He would shout down the phone and if im honest, I was completely done with the whole thing so I just told him, stick with your decision.
From this day onwards he began begging for me back. He blamed everything he had been saying and the way he was acting on something called ROCD (relationship OCD) and said he was in a really bad place mentally. Obviously I appreciate that but im not really sure how all of a sudden he realised these things. For all of November, he would tell me he loved me, wanted to marry me, im 'the one' etc. I never wanted to break up with him, so hearing all of these things really made me confused, as you can imagine...
Now im very unsure what to do. He has apologised for everything he said and said he never meant it and it was just because of his mindset. He has said he will give me space to think. He is a lovely guy normally and as I said, I was so happy with him. However, he still has only told his Mum about me and not his Dad. He can't confirm when he'll tell his dad or if they would approve of me.

Does anyone have any opinions of this or advice for whats best to do? I go back to Spain next week and I really am at a loss...

OP posts:
Sakurami · 23/12/2020 17:55

He's not at all.lovely. he is abusive.

Bunchup · 23/12/2020 17:58

Go to Spain and have fun.
Forget this loser.

Thismustbelove · 23/12/2020 17:59

IMO if things start out being messy, it just gets worse.

I would cut my losses and be open to meeting someone who respects me and isn't ashamed to introduce me to his family.

Walk away and embrace your new life in Spain.

Flowerpot345 · 23/12/2020 17:59

If he calls you names like slag tells you how replaceable you are and how he doesn't like certain aspects about you he sounds like he has a very spiteful tounge and you can't trust him to be easy going and kind because you don't know when he's going to kick off again.
He sounds abusive I couldn't be with someone like that.
Go back to Spain, it may hurt because you love him but those feelings will soon go.

pompey38 · 23/12/2020 18:02

Run for the hills

Aquamarine1029 · 23/12/2020 18:02

He is a horrible, abusive arsehole, and a future with him will be nothing but misery and drama. Please don't waste your youth on this twat.

TwentyViginti · 23/12/2020 18:05

He gets off on making you miserable. Ditch the twat for once and for all.

Levithecat · 23/12/2020 18:05

At best, he has a LOT of stuff to work through and he should be doing that alone. You don’t need to be put through any more, irrespective of the reasons. I’m sure you’d be advising a friend to stay away from him

Aquamarine1029 · 23/12/2020 18:05

I think you should take a lot of time and ask yourself why you are allowing someone to treat you so horribly. Do you really think this is what healthy relationships look like?

hairypaws · 23/12/2020 18:05

He's making ROCD up to try to justify his bad behaviour. If you stay with him, this is how your future will pan out until you are completely worn down and miserable. You don't want to look back with regret over a wasted life. Get rid of him once and for all.

category12 · 23/12/2020 18:06

Please don't do it to yourself.

He meant those things he said about you being a slag etc, and he doesn't respect you. He'll likely keep going round in circles with you up until the point he marries a "nice Muslim girl" his family find for him and approve of.

ElspethFlashman · 23/12/2020 18:09

I would never ever take back someone who called me a slag.

Ever.

Especially when I was single at the time and did absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever.

I'm baffled how you apparently think he is as good as it gets. You don't think there are better guys out there? You know, ones who don't call you a slag?

VettiyaIruken · 23/12/2020 18:09

He's not lovely. He despises you for not being pure and all that crap but he also wants sex.

It's the age old double standard far too many men have.

There's the women you fuck and there's the women you marry.

If you want a lifetime of being treated with contempt then stay with him.

Otherwise, dump his misogynistic arse.

ElspethFlashman · 23/12/2020 18:10

Oh and ROCD MY ARSE.

You're a mug to buy that bollocks for a second.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 23/12/2020 18:15

You even have to ask?

He is not a nice guy.
He called you a slag.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 23/12/2020 18:18

ROCD
Did he aye?

Dump and run, OP. At BEST he's repressed and deeply conflicted over family and cultural expectations versus his own needs and wants, and doesn't have the insight or courage to get therapy.

At worst he's just your bog standard abuser.

NAMALT - not all Muslims are like this.

NovemberR · 23/12/2020 18:20

Abusive arsehole with very few (any?) redeeming features.

You can do far better, girl. There's nothing to think about. Block him.

Windmillwhirl · 23/12/2020 18:21

He's a loser. Please dont be with him again. How dare he call you names. And he didnt even have the balls to tell his family about you. You can do much, much better. I hope you believe this

Arrivederla · 23/12/2020 18:25

No. No.

He called you a slag. Never allow anyone to speak to you like that.

Alys20 · 23/12/2020 18:28

Ditch, leave, block, never look back. No man has the right to call you a slag.

He has twisted values.

You sound lovely, OP. I hope 2021 brings you the person you deserve.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 23/12/2020 18:30

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YellowBeryl · 23/12/2020 18:31

Is this forgivable ? No Flowers

WizardOfAus · 23/12/2020 18:33

A man who is worthy of your love will never make you cry or question yourself.

You already know the answer. Block this loser and get the hell away from him.

stuffedforchristmas · 23/12/2020 18:36

It doesn't matter if he has a condition. It won't be resolved any time soon and you have been through enough.

There are absolutely no circumstances under which you should get back with him.

Jokie · 23/12/2020 18:42

Nope. No. No way.

I did my year abroad and had similar as you for the first few months. It took me a while to realise that they were jealous of the experiences that I was having and were trying to hold onto something that didn't exist anymore.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Do whatever you can, explore, meet new friends and use this as an opportunity to start the rest of the your life.

He is not a nice man with the examples you gave. He's not going to change.

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