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Is this forgivable?

87 replies

shg23 · 23/12/2020 17:51

Hey everyone! Im hoping someone can help me with this. I've literally asked everyone I know but I feel that everyone is too emotionally involved to give me a good answer. Its a bit of a long one so bare with me.
My ex boyfriend and I met on the first day of university and were very on and off throughout the first year or so but officially got together last October. We had a great year, so many laughs and good times, went on holiday together, he spent christmas with my family etc. I was truly very happy with him. Around April this year, I brought up the fact that he hadn't told his family about me (his family is Muslim) after 1.5 years of knowing me. He was very defensive about this and never told them but I was so happy with him that I accepted it as something which would happen in the future.
In september, after spending an amazing summer together, I began my year abroad in Spain. Personally I wasn't worried about our relationship suffering as a result of this. BUT around a week into me being there he began to bring up things which had happened in the period when we weren't together (I slept with someone else, however we had not been together for 6 months and he took me back 4 months after). He would begin to say things like 'I don't know whether I can do it anymore' or 'its disgusting'. For the first few weeks I allowed it and accepted the blame, but I really was very upset that he was being like this so long after we'd been together.
I barely knew anyone in Spain and it was a really tough experience for me, especially because he was the one I usually went to for advice. After the first few weeks, it became a bit of a pattern. He would be ok with me all week with all the usual 'I love you's' etc but then on the weekend he would do it again. It began to get a bit more hurtful too. He called me a 'slag', he told me 'any girl could replace you', 'you tell me you love me too much', 'you cry too much', 'you carry yourself badly and give off a wrong impression' etc. The list could go on...
Around mid October he broke up with me all of a sudden and then wanted me back immediately. I didn't want to break up so I took him back. We were then fine for a week and he did it again. This time I told him I wanted space, which he wouldn't give me. He would shout down the phone and if im honest, I was completely done with the whole thing so I just told him, stick with your decision.
From this day onwards he began begging for me back. He blamed everything he had been saying and the way he was acting on something called ROCD (relationship OCD) and said he was in a really bad place mentally. Obviously I appreciate that but im not really sure how all of a sudden he realised these things. For all of November, he would tell me he loved me, wanted to marry me, im 'the one' etc. I never wanted to break up with him, so hearing all of these things really made me confused, as you can imagine...
Now im very unsure what to do. He has apologised for everything he said and said he never meant it and it was just because of his mindset. He has said he will give me space to think. He is a lovely guy normally and as I said, I was so happy with him. However, he still has only told his Mum about me and not his Dad. He can't confirm when he'll tell his dad or if they would approve of me.

Does anyone have any opinions of this or advice for whats best to do? I go back to Spain next week and I really am at a loss...

OP posts:
rollinggreenhills · 23/12/2020 18:45

He hasn't got ROCD. He's got GIT.

Please don't waste any more of your time with this person.

jessstan1 · 23/12/2020 18:49

@Bunchup

Go to Spain and have fun. Forget this loser.
I agree - and he is the loser. However you are both very young to be in a committed relationship despite the fact that you obviously have cared about each other.

Relationships run their course. This is over. Remember the good times, move on, live your life.

Moltenpink · 23/12/2020 18:52

Not forgivable, no.

weedoogie · 23/12/2020 18:54

A man who loves you is a man who's proud of you, who never tries to make you feel bad about yourself, who tells those who won't accept you that you come as a unit and they can't have him without you.

Unless he can show his family how much he loves you, he's not worth your time

Craftycorvid · 23/12/2020 18:55

RUN! And then sigh with relief at the lucky escape. You were being lined up as his mistress as he married a girl mum and dad approved of - and when that happened there would have been a sob story about how he had no choice etc. He’s demonstrated that he has no respect for you and the abuse would escalate over time. Maybe he has psychological problems, but hey, you’re not his therapist. Leave this relationship behind whilst you can still say it had good moments, and enjoy life in Spain.

FawnDrench · 23/12/2020 18:55

This sounds like a tawdry sub-plot in a soap opera.
It's all about him.

Say adios and get on with your life.

Hoppinggreen · 23/12/2020 18:57

Go and have fun with some lovely hot Spanish men and forget this Dickhead

MiddleClassMother · 23/12/2020 18:58

Run as fast as you can. You could do so much better.

nowishtofly · 23/12/2020 18:59

Sounds as though you could have a great life without him or years of bullshit and misery ahead. He's already messed you around enough. If you stuck it out for the long term just imagine how it would play out. Drama over your wedding because his family won't accept you. You never being good enough for them. A question over which faith to raise your kids. His unpredictable and frankly abusive behaviour kicking in from time to time, maybe at times you really need him...

In your next relationship do not accept being called a slag or being someone's dirty secret or someone shouting down the phone at you.

Run for the hills. Go cold turkey now, block him and don't look back.

CorianderQueen · 23/12/2020 19:00

He's a misogynist. I wouldn't forgive him for calling me disgusting for sleeping with someone when broken up. He believes women are Madonna's or whores and are only valuable because of their clean or 'dirty' vagina.

Additionally, ROCD is not diagnosable, but was something I have suffered with (ie, OCD rumination focused on my relationship). It's awful, but it didn't make me leave my DP and it didn't make me be cruel to him. It just lead me to be upset a lot and fearful and talk to him and cry because I didn't know 'what love was'. It did not however make me a nasty or abusive person.

He's talking bull - he won't tell them because he doesn't ever want to tell them.

BigFatLiar · 23/12/2020 19:03

Despite all the comments I'd say that only you can decide if you're willing to forgive his behaviour.

cataclysmiclife · 23/12/2020 19:06

Nope he is abusive. Run for the hills now.

Rainbowqueeen · 23/12/2020 19:06

This is not a man who should be dating. Calling someone a slag when they have done nothing wrong shows a horrible tri tide towards women. He needs to do a lot of work on himself

Then when he does date he needs to be honest with himself about who he should date. If he is not willing to introduce a non Muslim to his family he should not be dating one. That is cruel, messes with the woman’s head and cause angst and insecurities. No one who does that is a decent person

Block him and move on. There is no future with this guy.

Dery · 23/12/2020 19:10

“He hasn't got ROCD. He's got GIT.

Please don't waste any more of your time with this person.”

This with bells on. He has some very nasty ideas about women. Decent men do not behave like this and women are not rehab centres for broken men.

You can do much better than this. Run and don’t look back.

MaMaD1990 · 23/12/2020 19:12

Ditch the loser and block him. He is having you on saying he some sort of disorder - i mean he does, it just isn't relationship OCD. He displays some very worrying behaviour and you shouldn't be treated that way. Get out now.

Dery · 23/12/2020 19:16

And don’t be persuaded back because he’s very nice sometimes. It’s how nasty he is when he’s not being nice that matters. To use a MN classic - if someone handed you a cup of tea and said it’s delicious but it has 10% actual shit in it, you wouldn’t drink it. Same goes for relationships. The bad patches should be a bit ‘meh’ - not full of nastiness like he’s been giving you.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 23/12/2020 19:18

I didn't read beyond him calling you a slag. Get rid, this will not improve. Then you can find someone who respects you and doesn't put you down and you'll discover what a proper loving relationship should be like.

Nunoftheother · 23/12/2020 19:25

Where did his family think he was last Christmas?

Pringlemonster · 23/12/2020 19:39

That’s abuse
It will only get worse

boireannach · 23/12/2020 19:39

@shg23
You are too young and have a life too full of promise to be involved in this. Move on. Live a BIG life. Have adventures. Fall in love. Break some hearts.Be happy 🙌

Dominicwestsscooter · 23/12/2020 19:41

God knows why you’re saying he’s lovely. He’s abusive and manipulative.

You putting up with his abusive and belittling behaviour is sending him the message that he can treat you like shit and you’ll keep coming back for more.

He’s not told his family because he’s no respect for you. His mental health issues are no excuse whatsoever for how he is treating you.

Run for the hills and don’t look back. I would be very concerned if you were my daughter.

Coffeeandaride · 23/12/2020 19:43

As soon as you stood up for yourself and said it is over, he changed tune, had a "medical reason" for being horrible to you and is now able to apologise/say you are "the one".

Is he jealous at all? Want to know where you are and who you are with in Spain? Do you think deep down he might consider you a bit of a slag because you were one of 2 single people who had consensual sex?

I think after 1.5 years and you are still on and off, breaking up, then declaring love, this really isn't going to be a great relationship that lasts the distance.

I think now is an ideal time to break up, but I'd advise a total break and throw yourself into life in Spain. It hurts but I think you can recover and do better.

Etinox · 23/12/2020 19:43

No one has advised you to stick with him @shg23
You mentioned that everyone in RL is too emotionally involved but we’re not.
Flowers

litterbird · 23/12/2020 19:45

"Hey everyone! Im hoping someone can help me with this. I've literally asked everyone I know but I feel that everyone is too emotionally involved to give me a good answer. Its a bit of a long one so bare with me."

I have a feeling everyone of your friends gave you the answer all the posters on here have given you....that is to leave. Not sure what answer you are looking for after what he has said to you. You need to have a lovely time in Spain and forget him.

Hailtomyteeth · 23/12/2020 19:46

Cut contact. Block.
Have nothing further to do with him, ever.