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Husband doing nothing to help at Christmas.

105 replies

pjsrock2020 · 22/12/2020 15:51

I know there are more important things in the world right now, but does anyone else's husband do fuck all to prepare for Christmas. Feeling exhausted and pissed off. He's always useless at Christmas but this year he's even more useless. If I say anything he accuses me of nagging and it turns into an argument. He knows none of the presents I've bought for our children, nor the presents I've bought for his children (my dsc) and he doesn't seem to care either. I've thought of what to buy, wrapped everything and sorted everything. The final straw came yesterday when I'd been and got my Christmas food shop (took ages, had to queue for 20 minutes to get in etc) and was so relieved it was over, then he got in from work and opened a load of it like a child. When I said to him but that was for Christmas he got really moody with me and said I knew you'd moan, like I was moody and unreasonable. I'm doing all the housework to get the house ready and all of the food preparation.
Is it too much to actually want him to do stuff as well? I actually work more hours than him too! Feeling utterly exhausted and pissed off. Feel like telling him to shove it all up his arse!

OP posts:
Wattlebird · 24/12/2020 00:40

I wouldn’t say my husband does nothing for Christmas but I do do the majority - present buying, food shopping, cooking etc. However, he picks up the slack elsewhere. He does all the washing, cleans out the pets, cleans and tidies the house. We don’t have children yet but we always choose our nieces’ and nephew’s together. That balance works for us. He may have no idea what I’ve bought his parents this year or what food we’ve got for the week but he’s knows which niece is getting which Lego set and I don’t have to deal with a pile of dirty laundry so I feel that’s a win for me!

MixMatch · 24/12/2020 01:12

I can't get over someone who buys presents for children who are not theirs while enabling their actual parent to stay uninvolved Confused

The real problem here is that you've made yourself a martyr. Why would he change when he knows you're going to keep doing everything anyway regardless of whatever you say? Stop endless talking and start acting by stopping doing stuff.

Butterymuffin · 24/12/2020 01:19

I'm sure you would have an easier time without him. Has he bought you a present, by the way? If not, then I wouldn't be giving him what I'd bought him.

janetmendoza · 24/12/2020 01:30

DH shares the putting up of the decorations, does cards to his side of the family, posts the neighbours cards through the doors, hides the presents in the attic and gets them down, buys and wraps any 'technology' presents. Helps with lunch in a moany sort of way. Its not enough and I should have been firmer over the years, but gosh I couldn't put up with anything less!

ukgift2016 · 24/12/2020 06:41

Oh OP, it sounds awful. You work full time AND you do everything! I would had a mental breakdown ages ago.

You would be better off being a single mum, what does this child bring to the marriage except more hard work? Pig.

BlueLorikeet · 24/12/2020 08:06

I never get much/any help. This year - none at all.

I have chosen, bought and wrapped all of the presents, he didn't even contribute money-wise, not a penny. He gives me enough every week to cover half of the bills and food but knows that this is ONLY for bills and food as I told him many times that anything extra is not in this budget. However he prefers to conveniently 'forget' this every time holidays, or days out, or school uniforms or birthdays etc. expenses happen.

Bought all of the food - I don't drive so had to do it over several trips on the bus carrying heavy bags back. He drives but couldn't be bothered.

Cleaned the entire house while he 'worked' on his hobby project and gone out to get a massage. Will be cooking Christmas breakfast and lunch tomorrow of course. Might clean up after... or leave it dirty, whatever.

But I'm not ASKING him to help any more. I used to in the past, and it was even more PITA than doing everything myself. Instead, I'll leave the hopeless manchild in 2021, already decided - just need the courage to actually go through with it.

RandomMess · 24/12/2020 08:20

@WizardOfAus

I whole heartedly agree!! My marriage is not trouble free and one point I nearly left but NEVER was it because he wasn't willing to do his share!

Sure he had to learn to do laundry and cook and looking after babies and it took him time. The load is shared and yep that includes the mental load!!!!

I never had to worry about the welfare of my DC if I was sick, away, in hospital or we split! He could run a house, look after them, deal with appointments and school. It's called being an adult with an IQ of 100 or more.

Fbtw · 24/12/2020 08:23

I was you when married to my ex. Without the step children.

Note the ex.

Iflyaway · 24/12/2020 08:34

^Bought all of the food - I don't drive so had to do it over several trips on the bus carrying heavy bags back. He drives but couldn't be bothered.
Cleaned the entire house while he 'worked' on his hobby project and gone out to get a massage. Will be cooking Christmas breakfast and lunch tomorrow of course^

Why? Why? Why?

Thank god I live alone. I can do what I want, when I want, how I want, if I want. It makes you a lot stronger too knowing you can rely on yourself. (Single mum, DS an adult now). Life is pretty blissful now.

Iflyaway · 24/12/2020 08:36

Oh, and if it sounds smug, I've been through mental and physical abuse. It's taken a long time to get to where I am now.

firstimemamma · 24/12/2020 08:38

"Just wondered what other husbands were like with regards to doing stuff, especially at Christmas/family celebrations etc."

Mine is great. Yesterday he took our toddler out for the morning so I could clean then he volunteered to go to Sainsbury's to do one final big food shop before Christmas. Never complains, just gets on with things. Last night our toddler was awake in the night fussing (happens from time to time) and my fiancé was up with him for over an hour - I'm ashamed to admit I didn't even realise ds had woken up at all BlushI asked him why he didn't wake me then we could've shared the workload and he said he didn't want to disturb me. He'll crack on with cooking, dishes etc tomorrow without needing to be asked. He works in the emergency services saving lives so is often very tired / stressed but ds and I are the most important thing to him.

Yes I bought and wrapped almost all of the presents (and did loads of other stuff myself) but I don't mind as we're a team. It would annoy / upset me if I did everything. It does sound like you need to have a discussion with your Dh as he sounds lazy. I hope he changes his ways, it's not fair on you Thanks

BlueLorikeet · 24/12/2020 08:53

@Iflyaway

^Bought all of the food - I don't drive so had to do it over several trips on the bus carrying heavy bags back. He drives but couldn't be bothered. Cleaned the entire house while he 'worked' on his hobby project and gone out to get a massage. Will be cooking Christmas breakfast and lunch tomorrow of course^

Why? Why? Why?

Thank god I live alone. I can do what I want, when I want, how I want, if I want. It makes you a lot stronger too knowing you can rely on yourself. (Single mum, DS an adult now). Life is pretty blissful now.

Just so the kids can have good Christmas - nice presents, nice food, clean house. Would still have to do all of these things by myself if/when we separate (just without the annoyance of observing him eating crisps in front of the TV whilst I cook&clean).
BarkHoneyBark · 24/12/2020 08:57

@MrsTerryPratchett

Why on earth are you buying presents that he knows nothing about for his children?

I suspect this is one of those situations where his ex was a "bitch" according to him, you wanted to avoid the label so auditioned hard as a wonderful carer and house elf and now the role has stuck.

Stop doing things for him. And the word 'nagging' is misogynist and not tolerated in my house. It shouldn't be in yours either. It's just a way for lazy men to stop women talking about their needs.

Tha5 sounds familiar. I did that first year (though ex isn’t a bitch she just loves Christmas and did everything but also didn’t work).

The next year I just let him get on with it. Did the stuff I needed to do for my family. Left him to shop and cook. ‘‘Twas all fine. Didn’t see why i should do it all.

AnotherEmma · 24/12/2020 09:13

@WizardOfAus

I’m copying and pasting this incredible post from another thread. It cannot be repeated enough on Mumsnet. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the original author.

(This post is specifically geared at women in heterosexual relationships.) Ok ladies, we need to talk.

Every few weeks there's a post that makes the admin team spend a day debating if we should say something or not. These posts are always on the same theme; husbands who are not pulling their weight.

Well, after just reading a post from this week were a whopping 4 HUNDRED of you commented in solidarity with the OP I've decided today is the day we say something.

Household chore inequity and child care inequality is a form of domestic abuse. It forces women to work themselves into exhaustion and illness, whilst men buy their free time with female exhaustion.

No one wants to see themselves as being in an abusive relationship. It means acknowledging that someone you love, someone you married or committed to, someone you chose to have children with is taking advantage of you and that hurts on so many levels.

it's heartbreaking to acknowledge, but acknowledge it we must.

If your husband or partner is capable of working at their job without being micromanaged and given extremely explicit instructions, then they are capable of contributing fairly at home without being given extremely explicit instructions and micromanaged. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they were capable of living independently without living in a rat-infested pigsty without any clean clothes and living off pizza, then they are capable of ensuring children are fed and clothed, groceries are done, and household chores are shared equally. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they claim they love you and yet your health comes secondary to their leisure, they're gaslighting you.

If they claim they can't possibly function and it would be unsafe for them to work with broken sleep, but it's totally fine for you to have to work, drive and do all the household chores and childcare on broken sleep, they're taking advantage of you.

If they say they are going to get up in the night and help but when the time comes the pretend to be asleep/complain, they're gaslighting you.

If they don't even actually try to settle the baby and had bub back almost immediately with "they just want you:", they're gaslighting you.

If your health, sanity, sleep, work, or self-esteem are suffering because you are the one doing everything, whilst they leverage your exhaustion into their free time, they're abusing you.
Like other forms of abuse, it will not get better on its own. It's not an accident.

So please ladies. Please stop laughing it off as "just men"

It's not just men. It's purposeful.

It might not be consciously purposeful, but it is still purposeful. They know they can get away with it.

one of you being on antidepressants because your husband won't help raise the children he fathered is one too many. 400+ of you being exhausted to the brink of PND and breakdowns is heartbreaking for us to watch.

You can't fix this by night weaning. Or sleep training. Or bedsharing, or chore charts, or even kicking hubby into the spare room. There are only two things that will fix this - therapy, or leaving.

I am sorry.

Amazing post and spot on
pjsrock2020 · 24/12/2020 10:27

@BlueLorikeet
We should start up our own club because I'm planning on telling him to piss off in 2021 as well. I'm too exhausted for this shit.
And yes, I agree with you, the reason I've done it is because I want my children to have the best Christmas, especially after this awful year.

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madcatladyforever · 24/12/2020 10:31

So many posts like this this year. Id be planning the new year without the useless lump of excess flesh. If anyone dared to accused me of nagging they would be spending Christmas on the street.

mumofone2019 · 24/12/2020 10:32

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pinkyredrose · 24/12/2020 10:41

Mine is great. Yesterday he took our toddler out for the morning so I could clean lolGrin

OP dump the fucker, i can't see any way he improves your. life.

RandomMess · 24/12/2020 11:49

I used to drop DH and kids off many Saturdays for £1 cinema and walk around town so I could clean in peace peace peace. I got the better deal!

pinkyredrose · 24/12/2020 12:43

@RandomMess.

Fair enough!

MsTSwift · 24/12/2020 13:04

Blue that is a sickening read tbh

Dh is fretting that he needs to get a start on the veg for tomorrow. It’s all as much his “problem” as mine - we are both off work now and ahem I am Not his personal maid! 🙄🙄. He is doing our traditional fondue tonight I will make the pudding. He brought me cocktails yesterday as I lounged about and we all made dinner together last night. We are a team.

Frangipaniflower · 24/12/2020 13:13

My husband was like that, so throughout the year I asked him to lean how to make a roast dinner and now he is preparing all the food while I wrap the presents etc!

Frangipaniflower · 24/12/2020 13:13

*learn!

Sloth66 · 24/12/2020 13:34

Sounds like his first wife kicked him out for being a waste of space.
He is basically abusing you and demonstrates by his behaviour that has no respect for you.
As others have said, he sounds awful

Porcupineintherough · 24/12/2020 14:04

I am the "boss" of Christmas in our house because there are various things I want done a certain way but dh is my lieutenant and usually delivers 30-40% of it. This year it'll be more as I'm not well so Christmas dinner is down to him plus the teens.

OP sounds like the best present you could get for Xmas is a divorce. Think how nice Christmas 2021 could be if you were shot of him.

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